Vieria staying on...

[carl_feedthegoat]

I'm very very suprised with this decision.

I thought it was the most indebted club in the world that was collecting geriatrics and not the world richest?

I just hope it doesn't hinder the emergence of any of our youngsters... or worse still point to the fact that mancini still wants to play every game with 3 defensive midfielers!

It's like retaining the services of Spencer Prior.

rubbish - far as i know Prior never won a world cup. or a european championship. or the premier league. or the FA cup. or serie a etc.

Mancini obviously trusts him. so we give him another season.

so because Mancini trust's him then that makes it all ok?

Alright then tonto.

listen - you may have not seen the villa game - he can deffo still do a job at times.

remember, we have a (hopefully) long and gruelling season ahead. we will need the bodies, and someone with the experience of Vieira will doubtless come in handy.

ffs it's not like we are paying 15mil for the guy.

I saw every single Man City game last season.

We dont need an old player who shows us glimpses of yesteryear every now and again if we are to go for the title or Top 3.
We will already have enough depth without the need for players like grandad on our books.

Anyway it's fuckign irrelevent - he's signed on for another season.

[brite blu sky]

We will already have enough depth

not a particularly good point for your arguemant Carl.. one of the problems we still have is lack of forward mid players who can be trusted. Hopefully we will signe the new Vieira.. and then THE Vieira can coach the new one... sorted!

[Kyle]

Good move, he is also a role model to youngsters like Ibrahim and still has something he can teach.

[avoidconfusion]

I'd rather have us sign Ballack on a free than keep Vieira.

[MaineRoadMemories]

Completely pointless signing which will only hinder the progress of other players such as Johnson and Ireland and Ibrahim. Although the fact Mr Slow has signed probably means Ireland is off and/or we have failed in our attempts to sign the midfielders we are courting.

[carl_feedthegoat]

We will already have enough depth

not a particularly good point for your arguemant Carl.. one of the problems we still have is lack of forward mid players who can be trusted. Hopefully we will signe the new Vieira.. and then THE Vieira can coach the new one... sorted!

IMO Vierira cant be trusted to fullfill that role...he didnt convince anyone with his displays..only glimpses which arnt enough......Let's see where we are at the end of this transfer window.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

I have no doubt we will get some central midfield players of the type we need. Keeping Vieira must surely be all about his influence and experience around the place and not about his playing ability and maybe he would fit into a coaching role if he wants to go down that route.

Mancini must have a reason for keeping him but based on what we saw last season I doubt that reason is for him to play very often.

[The Man In Blue]

I have no doubt we will get some central midfield players of the type we need. Keeping Vieira must surely be all about his influence and experience around the place and not about his playing ability and maybe he would fit into a coaching role if he wants to go down that route.

Mancini must have a reason for keeping him but based on what we saw last season I doubt that reason is for him to play very often.

exactly - obviously he won't be first name on the teamsheet. if he is, i would probably have to revise my opinion but he will come in handy at times.

as for holding back MJ and Ibrahim, how can we rely on MJ's fitness? i'd fucking love to see him back playing week in week out but right now we don't know if that can/will happen. As for Ibrahim, surely picking Vieira's brains can only help his progression?

[Slim]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

[edge275]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

I think that's a load of toilet water.

Cheers.

[Slim]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

I think that's a load of toilet water.

Cheers.

Well from the guy that thinks we are more of a drawcard than the champions league finalist, I think you are overreaching with the word "think".

[edge275]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

I think that's a load of toilet water.

Cheers.

Well from the guy that thinks we are more of a drawcard than the champions league finalist, I think you are overreaching with the word "think".

When Porto reached the final, and subsequently won it, how many players were rushing to join them?

[Slim]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

I think that's a load of toilet water.

Cheers.

Well from the guy that thinks we are more of a drawcard than the champions league finalist, I think you are overreaching with the word "think".

When Porto reached the final, and subsequently won it, how many players were rushing to join them?

6...wait 5.

Really I am sure it was a case of who they needed and being they won the champions league final, I am guessing not many.

[john@staustell]

The guy was clearly getting fitter toward the end and won people over by the Villa game. Some have forgotten that already! His presence on the field is intimidating against the right teams, and his influence in the squad will be immense - he's a winner (remember them?). A good pre-season and he'll be fine.

How this can be wrong, with a weak midfield (numbers-wise) and hopefully a long and hard WAFFA League campaign coming up I just cant see. He doesn't have to be first choice you know.

And I can't believe the club doesn't have a say in this '12-month activation' business.

Sorry MRM I'm not having that 'hinder the progress of young players' (Ibra, Ireland (FFS), Johnson) nonsense. That's the old, losers' City mentality - mid-table philosophy! If they're good enough they play.

[Slim]

The guy was clearly getting fitter toward the end and won people over by the Villa game. Some have forgotten that already! His presence on the field is intimidating against the right teams, and his influence in the squad will be immense - he's a winner (remember them?). A good pre-season and he'll be fine.

How this can be wrong, with a weak midfield (numbers-wise) and hopefully a long and hard WAFFA League campaign coming up I just cant see. He doesn't have to be first choice you know.

And I can't believe the club doesn't have a say in this '12-month activation' business.

Sorry MRM I'm not having that 'hinder the progress of young players' (Ibra, Ireland (FFS), Johnson) nonsense. That's the old, losers' City mentality - mid-table philosophy! If they're good enough they play.

City did have a say, when they signed him. And again when they played him in as many matches as they did. Wouldn't be much of an option for him if City could just turn around now and say "actually, no fuck off". If it was an option where both sides had a say in it, well that's just retarded...not a single difference to just re-signing him after the contract expired.

[john@staustell]

Well he's here now so best support him eh?

[Slim]

Well he's here now so best support him eh?

Of course, but I have the same reservations about him as SORTED does. This gives Mancini the option to rely on old players who are past it rather than taking a chance on a youngster that will benefit us in the long term. I think we had this same problem with Pearce and maybe Keegan, can't remember which where the youngsters were being ignored because the manager didn't have the pebbles to make a change, even though the status quo wasn't working.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Well he's here now so best support him eh?

Of course, but I have the same reservations about him as SORTED does. This gives Mancini the option to rely on old players who are past it rather than taking a chance on a youngster that will benefit us in the long term. I think we had this same problem with Pearce and maybe Keegan, can't remember which where the youngsters were being ignored because the manager didn't have the pebbles to make a change, even though the status quo wasn't working.

Sturridge at the end for Pearce? Ish Miller I remember many wanted to see as well tho, not that it would have made much difference.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We get rid of Sylvhino and we keep Vierira???..what the fuck for?

I said in the very begining he will not be up to the rigours of premiership football and he proved that time and time again.

It's nonsense to keep him.

Because Mancini trusts him and he will be Mancini's man in the dressing room most probably.

I wasn't bothered when we signed Paddy and I still ain't. Wasn't bothered when we bought in Sylvinho either. In the great scheme of things who cares.

spot on.
If he can get his fitness up and playing in the level he did few times during the spring, then great. If not then he will not feature much. Can't see much downside on this.

Piss funny to see some people who have made shitloads of excuses for Santa Cruz going mental for free signing.

[DoomMerchant]

From what NQDP posted, this wasn't an option that the club picked up. This was Vieira having played enough games last season to activate the option and even if he doesn't play a single game, he would be stupid to give up a year's wages for nothing. I suspect he has been sniffing around for another club since the season ended and when he couldn't find one, took the year from City.

i must not have understood the loan terms from Jan. i thought he was just loaned to us until the summer, and then out of contract.

cheers