Club America vs CITY

[BobKowalski]

Good stuff Bleedblue.

Chuffed you got your first game under your belt ;0)

Yes sir.... and i enjoyed every minute of it..

It was great seeing the boys train on Tuesday.

One thing that keeps BOTHERING me is Vieira...What are we doing with this guy?
He's an old man, he has bad knees; when he is playing, i noticed that he takes 2 to 3 steps to balance his legs to make a simple pass.
He limped around throughout. He clearly should not be playing anymore.

I say get rid of him and and split his weekly wages among SWP, Bellamy, and our soon to be new boy Balotelli(keep everone happy). hahah

congrats on your first game..

i am also getting very worried that Vieira is going to be included at the expense of someone else. If it wasn't for the 25 man thing i wouldn't be bothered, but now it means that someone who could actually be of use missing out and possibly leaving the club.. that is just not right imo.

Assuming he makes the 25

[brite blu sky]

Good stuff Bleedblue.

Chuffed you got your first game under your belt ;0)

Yes sir.... and i enjoyed every minute of it..

It was great seeing the boys train on Tuesday.

One thing that keeps BOTHERING me is Vieira...What are we doing with this guy?
He's an old man, he has bad knees; when he is playing, i noticed that he takes 2 to 3 steps to balance his legs to make a simple pass.
He limped around throughout. He clearly should not be playing anymore.

I say get rid of him and and split his weekly wages among SWP, Bellamy, and our soon to be new boy Balotelli(keep everone happy). hahah

congrats on your first game..

i am also getting very worried that Vieira is going to be included at the expense of someone else. If it wasn't for the 25 man thing i wouldn't be bothered, but now it means that someone who could actually be of use missing out and possibly leaving the club.. that is just not right imo.

Assuming he makes the 25

well exactly.. i am trying to tell myself that Mancini is not going to be that daft and he wont make the Prem 25 at least.

[Ted Hughes]

Not taken long for the world at large to realise that Yaya Toure IS NOT JUST A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER has it? 45 mins with barely any time spent defending seems to have cracked it.


Some right tripe been spoken about him on here. He's a quality footballer who can help our attacking game enormously OR sit back if we want him to. Gives us a lot of scope for variation although we don't have much time to sort it out.

Incidentally whether intended or not, I recon that one of the formations was more of a 4-1-4-1 with Vinny in the holding role. That's how it looked to me anyhow. Imo that formation needs someone better suited than Adebayor up front. Tevez would be better actually, even though he's not a target man.

I dont like Vince in the holding role full time. He has a good touch and ability on the ball for a central defender but only average for a central midfielder. When he doesnt have time in there, he loses control of what he's doing. Vince should be our first choice central defender. De Jong may struggle to pass forwards but his touch and mobility are much better so he does a good job.

As I said earlier in the thread, i expect that to be our formation for perceived difficult away matches. I hope so anyway. Adebayor will apply himself much more when the competition begins im sure.

Yaya did ok for a defensive midfielder;)

You're probably right about DeJong & that Ade would perform much better in a real game but if we are using that formation in some tough away games then it means either Tevez plays in place of Ade or as a midfielder or is left out. Not sure about leaving out Tevez in tough games so I'm not sure where he'd go in that formation in midfield, be better to change it to accomodate him imo. Milner would fit into that perfectly however.

[mr_nool]

Not taken long for the world at large to realise that Yaya Toure IS NOT JUST A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER has it? 45 mins with barely any time spent defending seems to have cracked it.


Some right tripe been spoken about him on here. He's a quality footballer who can help our attacking game enormously OR sit back if we want him to. Gives us a lot of scope for variation although we don't have much time to sort it out.

Incidentally whether intended or not, I recon that one of the formations was more of a 4-1-4-1 with Vinny in the holding role. That's how it looked to me anyhow. Imo that formation needs someone better suited than Adebayor up front. Tevez would be better actually, even though he's not a target man.

I dont like Vince in the holding role full time. He has a good touch and ability on the ball for a central defender but only average for a central midfielder. When he doesnt have time in there, he loses control of what he's doing. Vince should be our first choice central defender. De Jong may struggle to pass forwards but his touch and mobility are much better so he does a good job.

As I said earlier in the thread, i expect that to be our formation for perceived difficult away matches. I hope so anyway. Adebayor will apply himself much more when the competition begins im sure.

Yaya did ok for a defensive midfielder;)

You're probably right about DeJong & that Ade would perform much better in a real game but if we are using that formation in some tough away games then it means either Tevez plays in place of Ade or as a midfielder or is left out. Not sure about leaving out Tevez in tough games so I'm not sure where he'd go in that formation in midfield, be better to change it to accomodate him imo. Milner would fit into that perfectly however.

tevez puts in a better shift and is thus better suited as only striker. besides that, ade spends most of his time on the wing,which makes him both a bad target man,and also way out of position to bury the crosses.

[brite blu sky]

Not taken long for the world at large to realise that Yaya Toure IS NOT JUST A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER has it? 45 mins with barely any time spent defending seems to have cracked it.


Some right tripe been spoken about him on here. He's a quality footballer who can help our attacking game enormously OR sit back if we want him to. Gives us a lot of scope for variation although we don't have much time to sort it out.

Incidentally whether intended or not, I recon that one of the formations was more of a 4-1-4-1 with Vinny in the holding role. That's how it looked to me anyhow. Imo that formation needs someone better suited than Adebayor up front. Tevez would be better actually, even though he's not a target man.

the 4-1-4-1 thing can also be 2-3-3-2 when attacking or holding a position high up. The two wing backs push up to form a bank of 3 with the DM. The 2 wingers or wide mids hold a line with the AM so leaving room for two strikers. On losing the ball or in defensive mode one of the strikers, eg Tevez would drop back a bit and hassle with the AM. The key is two fullbacks who can push up and a DM who can get all over the place to protect the CB's. This is where someone like Yaya helps a lot, because he kind of plays a AM role from deep due to his long accurate passes. So if he is quite deep he can nip back to cut stuff out easier too, so easing what could otherwise be a weakness with the fullbacks well advanced.
Mancini must have looked how Barca used Toure Y. and have his own ideas and adaptations to that.

[Ted Hughes]

Not taken long for the world at large to realise that Yaya Toure IS NOT JUST A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER has it? 45 mins with barely any time spent defending seems to have cracked it.


Some right tripe been spoken about him on here. He's a quality footballer who can help our attacking game enormously OR sit back if we want him to. Gives us a lot of scope for variation although we don't have much time to sort it out.

Incidentally whether intended or not, I recon that one of the formations was more of a 4-1-4-1 with Vinny in the holding role. That's how it looked to me anyhow. Imo that formation needs someone better suited than Adebayor up front. Tevez would be better actually, even though he's not a target man.

I dont like Vince in the holding role full time. He has a good touch and ability on the ball for a central defender but only average for a central midfielder. When he doesnt have time in there, he loses control of what he's doing. Vince should be our first choice central defender. De Jong may struggle to pass forwards but his touch and mobility are much better so he does a good job.

As I said earlier in the thread, i expect that to be our formation for perceived difficult away matches. I hope so anyway. Adebayor will apply himself much more when the competition begins im sure.

Yaya did ok for a defensive midfielder;)

You're probably right about DeJong & that Ade would perform much better in a real game but if we are using that formation in some tough away games then it means either Tevez plays in place of Ade or as a midfielder or is left out. Not sure about leaving out Tevez in tough games so I'm not sure where he'd go in that formation in midfield, be better to change it to accomodate him imo. Milner would fit into that perfectly however.

tevez puts in a better shift and is thus better suited as only striker. besides that, ade spends most of his time on the wing,which makes him both a bad target man,and also way out of position to bury the crosses.

By the time a decent one comes in he'll be too old to get anywhere near it anyway.

[mr_nool]

my point was rather that it is hard to be the receiver of your own cross...

[brite blu sky]

my point was rather that it is hard to be the receiver of your own cross...

Ned did pass to himself last season.. maybe it is something City are working on.. it would be a bit special crossing to yerself, more so if you actually scored from it

[mr_nool]

my point was rather that it is hard to be the receiver of your own cross...

Ned did pass to himself last season.. maybe it is something City are working on.. it would be a bit special crossing to yerself, more so if you actually scored from it

if you just hit it high enough ...