gillie wrote:I reckon only Bobby knows the answers to your questions but i know what your getting at.I think most of the prem squad of 25 already have been told thier in as for the rest well its anyones guess.
Ted Hughes wrote:I was hoping to see real planning & shape like we've never seen before after hearing about how methodical Mancini was. That was very evident in the 1st game as we moved seamlessly through 3 systems & everyone knew their job. I was delighted with it & expected that to continue & improve so we'd have a tight unit for the new players to join, making their integration easier.
Instead, it's become a mess & you can see the players aren't happy, both on the pitch & on the bench, they look tense & in some cases even pissed off. It's not how other club's players look at this stage in comparison. as a unit we're disorganised at the back, toothless up front & passing badly in midfield. This from players, most of whom have played a whole season together.
The US tour has been wasted by too much fucking about & we now need to get back to the kind of planning we saw at the very start of it. We really had an opportunity there to use the time to great effect & gain an advantage. We blew it.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:"none of the players have got a clue what their role is."
Now that would be a concern
johnpb78 wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:"none of the players have got a clue what their role is."
Now that would be a concern
Off the top of my head.......
Adebayor roaming to the wing leaving nobody in the middle, because the wingers we do have cant/dont supply him. He is doing what Rooney did for U***d for years, until last year when Fergie told him to stand on the penalty spot and he would get service. Rooney had the most prolific season of his career. Ade is going looking for it just the same way Rooney did out of frustration.
Wingers playing on the wrong wing to curl crosses in, for nobody because Adebayor is on the other wing and Tevez is a midget, or has not made it into the box as he has just layed the ball off from deep to the winger.
Defenderswho are all in a perpetual state of panic becuase they are either not being protected by the midfield, or dont know what person has responsibility for picking up what player.
Maybe it will improve with the arrival of Toure and Silva, but parachuting better players into an incomprehensible and alien system to the Premietr League is not going to fix the problems, if it turns out that Mancini's system is the problem.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:johnpb78 wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:"none of the players have got a clue what their role is."
Now that would be a concern
Off the top of my head.......
Adebayor roaming to the wing leaving nobody in the middle, because the wingers we do have cant/dont supply him. He is doing what Rooney did for U***d for years, until last year when Fergie told him to stand on the penalty spot and he would get service. Rooney had the most prolific season of his career. Ade is going looking for it just the same way Rooney did out of frustration.
Wingers playing on the wrong wing to curl crosses in, for nobody because Adebayor is on the other wing and Tevez is a midget, or has not made it into the box as he has just layed the ball off from deep to the winger.
Defenderswho are all in a perpetual state of panic becuase they are either not being protected by the midfield, or dont know what person has responsibility for picking up what player.
Maybe it will improve with the arrival of Toure and Silva, but parachuting better players into an incomprehensible and alien system to the Premietr League is not going to fix the problems, if it turns out that Mancini's system is the problem.
I didn't say I disagreed with you but merely that if the players haven't got a clue yet re their role we have major problems.There were signs late last season against better teams that the "system" , whatever it was, wasn't very effective but surely we can expect, with better players and more time working on it things would be better now.I don't take ( or I am trying hard not to) Inter Milan as indicative of where the team stands. If I did I would really fear for the season but that was just a preparation training game with half the team missing.
I have to say I am not at all convinced but I have to believe.
johnpb78 wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:"none of the players have got a clue what their role is."
Now that would be a concern
Off the top of my head.......
Adebayor roaming to the wing leaving nobody in the middle, because the wingers we do have cant/dont supply him. He is doing what Rooney did for U***d for years, until last year when Fergie told him to stand on the penalty spot and he would get service. Rooney had the most prolific season of his career. Ade is going looking for it just the same way Rooney did out of frustration..
BobKowalski wrote:johnpb78 wrote:Douglas Higginbottom wrote:"none of the players have got a clue what their role is."
Now that would be a concern
Off the top of my head.......
Adebayor roaming to the wing leaving nobody in the middle, because the wingers we do have cant/dont supply him. He is doing what Rooney did for U***d for years, until last year when Fergie told him to stand on the penalty spot and he would get service. Rooney had the most prolific season of his career. Ade is going looking for it just the same way Rooney did out of frustration..
Are you saying that Taggart took several seasons before getting round to telling Rooney to er stand on the penalty spot or to be accurate took several seasons to notice that Rooney was wandering all over the park before having his 'eureka' moment and going 'You know what Wayne lad how about we just stand still this season?'
I will go out on a limb here and say that Rooney roamed far and wide because he was told to. Equally he now plays more centrally because (again) he was told to. Fake Ron moving on was the key to both decisions.
john@staustell wrote:Blimey I hope we dont lose a (very difficult) first game at Spuds or some will be reaching for the revolver to the head!
brite blu sky wrote:john@staustell wrote:Blimey I hope we dont lose a (very difficult) first game at Spuds or some will be reaching for the revolver to the head!
it could be quite quiet round here if things dont go too well..
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I don't like to think too much of what the scum do or have done but I seem to recall that with Rooney playing "wider" they won the league more than once and with him "in the middle" they came second. Tranny and Tevez might have been a part of that scenario but whatever/whoever they played they looked like a good side.
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