criag bellamy

[Murph]

Being honest I didn't want us to sign Bellamy, but he's been excellent for us, he's certainly a far better player than I thought he was. As for him being forced out, I've felt for some time that he was on his way out, but I take some consolation from Mancini's comments yesterday about how well Bellamy has trained over the last month. If Bellers works hard and keeps his head down, hopefully that will be enough to convince the powers that be to keep him because on pure footballing ability it's a no-brainer that he should be in the 25.

[Spurge]

I find it really hard to believe Bellamy would come out with that to a fan. He might be well known for airing his views but he's not stupid either. Personally I don't think he's going anywhere- he's a huge asset to us, we know it, he knows it, Mancini knows it.

I agree

I just can't see Bellers having said this to be honest. I can, unfortunately, believe that the Cook/Marwood thing is true but I just can't see Craig coming out with those comments in that way

Mancini will not won't to lose Bellers....I am positive of that...irrespective of what his relations with Cookie and Marwood might be

I have been "lucky" enough to speak to Bellamy on occasion and I would not at all be surprised if he did say this and if he did he was being honest.That's what he is! I would join all the rest who would be very disappointed if it ended up that he left.He got a great reception at the open day training which I felt said such a lot given that he is supposed to be trouble. For me he has been great for the club , was clearly one of the best players through last season and really should be in the squad for this season.

I just don't see how he can be so good last year and not good enough this to make the top 25!

well Doug you are best placed to comment on such things as you say you have been 'lucky' to have been spoken at by bellers..

I'm not necessarily disputing what the OP heard, but then reading a forum we have no proof of this. But more that personally i have never held much store in rumours. For starters i would question bellers supposed interpretation.. how does he know Cook and Marwood are trying to shift him out? or is it more his reading of the situation rather than hard fact. Second even if he was correct Cook and Marwood are not making those decisions independent of the manager. Mancini to me has already come across in his comments about Tevez last season as someone who can accept different viewpoints and passion in players, also the kind of person who can have a dispute or disagreement and keep it within the context of the arguement and not let it influence anything else. Mancini also seems pretty practical, as in will go for what he thinks will work rather than bother what people think or pander to the feelings of players. My own take like so many others is that Mancini will know the value of Bellemy all too well and irrespective of whether they are best mates or not he will just focus on that value. So whatever Cook and Marwood want, think or are in Bellemy's eyes trying to engineer, Bobby is just going to look at the value to the team and his plans and that will be the end of. imo So as i commented earlier i will only believe it when it happens, regardless of the OP.

1. Doug is better palced than most as you say, but come on Bellamy has always said what he thinks to the press - he is honest and doesn't worry whether it gets him in trouble or not.

2. How does he know Cook and Marwood are trying to shift him out? I met with a city player once (current at the time) as part of his book launch (I worked in the book trade) I got to go to a City match followed by a meal and the rest of the evening at the Lowry. Having spoken to him and his wife I learned a lot about what goes on at a football club which the public and even the press don't get to hear about and on the strength of this I'm sure Bellamy would know if the likes of Cook and Marwood wanted to ship him out.

[blue wine]

i dont think he will go

[Haz]

I'd be very sad to see him go, I really hope it is all just idle speculation. Bellers always gives his all, and wears his heart no his sleeve. He is the type of player we need to keep hold of and have in the 25. Even if he is only used as an impact player from the bench, he would still be of great use to us.

[simon12]

still dont know what all the fuss is about with the 25 thing, we still have a place free by my rekoning

1 Shay GIVEN (GK)
2 Joe HART (GK)
3 Stuart TAYLOR (GK)
4 Micah RICHARDS
5 Wayne BRIDGE
6 Nigel DE JONG
7 Stephen IRELAND
8 Shaun WRIGHT-PHILLIPS
9 Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
10 Vincent KOMPANY
11 Adam JOHNSON
12 Kolo TOURE
13 Alexander KOLAROV
14 Yaya TOURE
15 Nedum ONUOHA
16 Pablo ZABALETA
17 Jerome BOATENG
18 Gareth BARRY
19 Joleon LESCOTT
20 James MILNER
21 David SILVA
22 Craig BELLAMY
23 Patrick VIEIRA
24 Carlos TEVEZ
25

M. Johnson to come back in Cup squad and see in January.

Out: Jo, RSC, Robson
Loan: Etuhu, Caicedo, Logan

under 21 dont count
Wiess, Balotelli, Boyata, Cunningham, Mee, Kay, Vidal, Clayton, Tutte, Trippier and the rest..

Still leaves a place for another signing and i have included PV in the 25 for some insane reason.

Silly you forgot Edin Dzeko!

[carl_feedthegoat]

I find it really hard to believe Bellamy would come out with that to a fan. He might be well known for airing his views but he's not stupid either. Personally I don't think he's going anywhere- he's a huge asset to us, we know it, he knows it, Mancini knows it.

I agree

I just can't see Bellers having said this to be honest. I can, unfortunately, believe that the Cook/Marwood thing is true but I just can't see Craig coming out with those comments in that way

Mancini will not won't to lose Bellers....I am positive of that...irrespective of what his relations with Cookie and Marwood might be

Ant wrote : "If you can't spell, or "can't be bothered" to spell properly well, call me harsh, but I put you straight into the box marked "thick".



Thick cunt.

[Kyle]

I find it really hard to believe Bellamy would come out with that to a fan. He might be well known for airing his views but he's not stupid either. Personally I don't think he's going anywhere- he's a huge asset to us, we know it, he knows it, Mancini knows it.

I agree

I just can't see Bellers having said this to be honest. I can, unfortunately, believe that the Cook/Marwood thing is true but I just can't see Craig coming out with those comments in that way

Mancini will not won't to lose Bellers....I am positive of that...irrespective of what his relations with Cookie and Marwood might be

Ant wrote : "If you can't spell, or "can't be bothered" to spell properly well, call me harsh, but I put you straight into the box marked "thick".



Thick cunt.

Hahahaha I knew this would happen, just not this soon!

[CitizenYank]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

[Tokyo Blue]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

Cook values nothing other than money and self-glorification. He is even managing to convince some City fans that he cares about them. Wrong. He cares about their wallets, bank accounts and credit cards. Welsh internationals don't bring in as much money or publicity as Brazilian ones.

[CityGer]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

Cook values nothing other than money and self-glorification. He is even managing to convince some City fans that he cares about them. Wrong. He cares about their wallets, bank accounts and credit cards. Welsh internationals don't bring in as much money or publicity as Brazilian ones.

Agree, sums up my feelings on this.

Just want to add that I think he'll go and have said so since the end of last season.

[ant london]

I find it really hard to believe Bellamy would come out with that to a fan. He might be well known for airing his views but he's not stupid either. Personally I don't think he's going anywhere- he's a huge asset to us, we know it, he knows it, Mancini knows it.

I agree

I just can't see Bellers having said this to be honest. I can, unfortunately, believe that the Cook/Marwood thing is true but I just can't see Craig coming out with those comments in that way

Mancini will not won't to lose Bellers....I am positive of that...irrespective of what his relations with Cookie and Marwood might be

Ant wrote : "If you can't spell, or "can't be bothered" to spell properly well, call me harsh, but I put you straight into the box marked "thick".



Thick cunt.

Hahahaha I knew this would happen, just not this soon!

haha hoist by my own petard there!


to be fair I did post that after a very late night on a blackberry where you can't see what you have typed as it's in one long disappearing line of text

but rules is rules

thick cunt indeed....

[carl_feedthegoat]

Craig coming on second half it would seem.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I find it really hard to believe Bellamy would come out with that to a fan. He might be well known for airing his views but he's not stupid either. Personally I don't think he's going anywhere- he's a huge asset to us, we know it, he knows it, Mancini knows it.

I agree

I just can't see Bellers having said this to be honest. I can, unfortunately, believe that the Cook/Marwood thing is true but I just can't see Craig coming out with those comments in that way

Mancini will not won't to lose Bellers....I am positive of that...irrespective of what his relations with Cookie and Marwood might be

Ant wrote : "If you can't spell, or "can't be bothered" to spell properly well, call me harsh, but I put you straight into the box marked "thick".



Thick cunt.

Hahahaha I knew this would happen, just not this soon!

haha hoist by my own petard there!


to be fair I did post that after a very late night on a blackberry where you can't see what you have typed as it's in one long disappearing line of text

but rules is rules

thick cunt indeed....

You do know, that you and Man in Blue have opened yourself up to a spelling watch from now on !!

[ant london]

yeah....100%....I knew that as I was typing it!

Typos I do make occasionally (like that one).

I will raise the bar even higher and say that I very very rarely actually spell something wrong (rather than just hitting a duff key...or as was the case with that one....having a change in what I was typing and keeping in will not/won't and then missing want which was the next word).

Watch away all you thick cunts out there ;-)

[Mase]

Also i got a pic wid richards in his car, and some bloke lent in his window and said enjoy ya last few games micah, there gna be ya last!! which he jus smurked and drove off.

If that's true what an absolute bell end that guy is! Did he have a tattoo on his arm saying 'DEATH TO EDGHILL!'
Why the fuck would a City fan do that kind of shite? Fair play to Micah for just driving off. I wouldn't have!

[ronk]

still dont know what all the fuss is about with the 25 thing, we still have a place free by my rekoning

1 Shay GIVEN (GK)
2 Joe HART (GK)
3 Stuart TAYLOR (GK)
4 Micah RICHARDS
5 Wayne BRIDGE
6 Nigel DE JONG
7 Stephen IRELAND
8 Shaun WRIGHT-PHILLIPS
9 Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
10 Vincent KOMPANY
11 Adam JOHNSON
12 Kolo TOURE
13 Alexander KOLAROV
14 Yaya TOURE
15 Nedum ONUOHA
16 Pablo ZABALETA
17 Jerome BOATENG
18 Gareth BARRY
19 Joleon LESCOTT
20 James MILNER
21 David SILVA
22 Craig BELLAMY
23 Patrick VIEIRA
24 Carlos TEVEZ
25

M. Johnson to come back in Cup squad and see in January.

Out: Jo, RSC, Robson
Loan: Etuhu, Caicedo, Logan

under 21 dont count
Wiess, Balotelli, Boyata, Cunningham, Mee, Kay, Vidal, Clayton, Tutte, Trippier and the rest..

Still leaves a place for another signing and i have included PV in the 25 for some insane reason.

Ireland, Ned, Bellamy, Vieira are the players there who've been associated with rumours about their future. Adding in the other guys, it's 11 players fighting over 5 positions (assuming a place is held for Milner). There's always the possibility of more signings too.

We may be looking at offers for all of them. Jo has massively boosted his chances of making the squad, but he's also increased his saleability. I think he's passed RSC based on looking at our team. Leading the line tonight was the clincher. Robinho is completely up in the air. Maybe Santos will secure him, but he has until 1st September and that's 5 matches for us. Or we could keep him to Christmas and see how he gets on.

On that basis we'd then reduce it to 6 players looking at 5 positions (Jo, Robinho and the 4 still in the squad). Count Micah and Yaya (and why not) and that makes 7 centre halves, and Ned also been pushed back a spot at right back. Ned does look like the one who'd be first out the door out of that list. We can expect Vieira to make the squad and there are only 2 actual forwards secure in the squad. Balotelli makes 3, if it happens. But I'm still inclined to think that there has to be another one. We've got up to 6 forwards who could be on the way out (I'm not even entertaining the Adebayor rumours, too absurd in this context). Bellamy, if nothing else, is a fantastic option coming off the bench and covering for fragile wingers. But it would be a lot tougher if Milner were here. If Robinho stays it's tougher again.

In a lot of ways it really just depends on who we get offers for. If Robinho can sort out his deal then there'll all that much more secure.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

Cook values nothing other than money and self-glorification. He is even managing to convince some City fans that he cares about them. Wrong. He cares about their wallets, bank accounts and credit cards. Welsh internationals don't bring in as much money or publicity as Brazilian ones.

Absolutamente.

Whether that's good or bad for the Club is another matter but please don't fool yourselves into thinking that he is a football man. He isn't. He is a slimy marketing exec

[ant london]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

Cook values nothing other than money and self-glorification. He is even managing to convince some City fans that he cares about them. Wrong. He cares about their wallets, bank accounts and credit cards. Welsh internationals don't bring in as much money or publicity as Brazilian ones.

Absolutamente.

Whether that's good or bad for the Club is another matter but please don't fool yourselves into thinking that he is a football man. He isn't. He is a slimy marketing exec

He's running a multi million pound company.....what do you want him to be? A bloody local charity co-ordinator? Ex-public servant?

Get real lads FFS.

[CitizenYank]

I can see Bellamy coming out and saying that to a fan. The guy is always open and honest with his feelings.
The bit about Cook and Marwood, REALLY HURTS though. I thought our executives valued Bellamy.
He's my favorite player on our squad and, despite his frequent outbursts, gives us everything he's got.
Like Dunney, he may not be exciting, but he's the 'hustling everyman,' type of player. I didn't like it when
we lost Dunne, and I won't like it if we lose Bellers!!

Cook values nothing other than money and self-glorification. He is even managing to convince some City fans that he cares about them. Wrong. He cares about their wallets, bank accounts and credit cards. Welsh internationals don't bring in as much money or publicity as Brazilian ones.

Absolutamente.

Whether that's good or bad for the Club is another matter but please don't fool yourselves into thinking that he is a football man. He isn't. He is a slimy marketing exec

He's running a multi million pound company.....what do you want him to be? A bloody local charity co-ordinator? Ex-public servant?

Get real lads FFS.

Of course he's slimey. Anyone associated with Nike usually is. I just don't want Bellamy to go.

P.S. When I think of Wales, I think of Christmas.

[mcfc1632]

The commercial development of CITY is increasingly a role model IMO.

Whether commercial / marketing / business executives are deemed good personalities by people only able to judge by internet and media views is a moot point - but success in this area is vital to the club in the coming years

If we are in the situation in a few years time where we can bask in the continuous glory of our team and its positioning as a sustainable entity at the top level for many years to come - with the scum starting to slide the other way - I hope fans can be magnanimous enough to recognise a job well done - and just how essential that job was - the Sheik and the Chairman seem to be able to recognise the importance at this developmental stage.

The hurdles that the commercial team have to surmount are significant - especially given our lowly global brand as a starting point and the new blocks put in our path, e.g. the FFP regulations. Cook is as important (perhaps more so) than most people at the club, including any manager if the club is going to develop to where we all want it to get to. I would think that this should be recognised and we should be cheering on the growth of brand, markets, business expansion, ground development etc with as much fervour as games - if we know what is good for us.

From a character point of view, as a point of reference I tend to take the views of people that have met Cook to have more relevance - such as DM and others whose posts I have read - they all seem to be highly positive about his commitment to the CITY cause - being more than just a job to him, I also take very positively things like the 'bottled it' comments which lots of people seem to see as a gaffe - why should we be fucked over by one of the old established clubs and trashed in the press on the basis of lies - good for him I say.

Not sure how / why our commercial / business lead - the one member of staff whose success we are all dependent on gets gratuitously slammed in a thread to do with Craig Bellamy?? WE NEED HIS SUCCESS!!