Bellamy to Cardiff

[mcfc1632]

.....that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness.


I totally agree - and in any other business - if you have a change of boss you have to accept it and get on with the way he wants to run the business - the decisions he makes etc

If you are disruptive and seek to undermine the direction you get a verbal warning followed by written warnings followed by the sack - without the luxury of a massive salary protected for a few years

[Kladze]

.....that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness.


I totally agree - and in any other business - if you have a change of boss you have to accept it and get on with the way he wants to run the business - the decisions he makes etc

If you are disruptive and seek to undermine the direction you get a verbal warning followed by written warnings followed by the sack - without the luxury of a massive salary protected for a few years

Let's face it, if you're earning £90,000 a week for about 20 hours work it ought to be the easiest thing in the world to keep the zipper closed on your mouth. But not Bellamy - like I said, up his own arse.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Everyone is so rediculious. You guys are too busy with the MCFC dick in your mouth that you can't realize that he is a person and MCFC is a buisness. They way he was treated was complete shit, and good on him for telling them his mind. Buisness has been sooooo shady this summer and quite frankly its rather pathetic and i'm getting sick of it fast.

Second divison will straighten him out? What kind of talk is this to someone who clearly plays 100% when given the opportunity. This isn't down to a lack of professionalism from Bellamy, but rather a lack of professionalism for Mancini and Cook.

Yeah. That's kind of why we are here, right? Not because of Bellamy or any other individual player. But because we have MCFC dick in our mouth.

I think it depends on whether you see Marwood, Cook & Mancini as being the soul of the club or just the business arm. At the moment, Bellamy, Ireland, Ned & Co are more MCFC than any of those 3, they've given people more enjoyment & probably have more affiliation with the club. The others can gain that connection over time but so far none of them have done anything to earn it.

None of them are Manchester City for me. Not Bellamy, Mancini, Cook or any other. Club is the supporters and history. All of them are there employed to serve that History and create new for the supporters.

[john@staustell]

How on earth can Bellamy be the soul of the club? He's only been here 18 months, and arrived to a barrage of abuse about how he wasn't the soul of the club.

Clearly Mancini has either had problems with him, or thinks he is a big problem for team spirit. Which isn't hard to believe as he's been moved on from everywhere.

As Mancini has taken a lame duck big club back to Champions status before, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt so far and trust him on this.

[avoidconfusion]

I agree with John. Look at Bellamy's history, has he EVER stayed at a club for more than 2 seasons? He falls out with everyone eventually. Didn't Bobby once say Bellamy could pick a fight in an empty room?

[ant london]

It's snidey & it's shite, it's lies & it's completely unneccessary. It's rank fucking shit management however people twist it.

Ted, you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak).....this could and should have been handled a lot more privately and a lot more speedily and fucking professionally.

However, those mistakes have no been made and the longer we allow this to drag on the worse we look and the more potential damage this can do to us/team spirit.

Get him to Cardiff asap I say.

Shit state of affairs that this was allowed to develop though

[john@staustell]

It's snidey & it's shite, it's lies & it's completely unneccessary. It's rank fucking shit management however people twist it.

Ted, you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak).....this could and should have been handled a lot more privately and a lot more speedily and fucking professionally.

However, those mistakes have no been made and the longer we allow this to drag on the worse we look and the more potential damage this can do to us/team spirit.

Get him to Cardiff asap I say.

Shit state of affairs that this was allowed to develop though

Bellamy would probably have been at Spuds on the bench until he gave THAT interview. Frozen himself out before they could move him. Typical Bellers.

[Beefymcfc]

I'm following the Joe Royle line after the Valencia game, when he said 'If Bellamy is not in the first team, I'd want him nowhere near my club'.

Pretty specific really.

[kinkylola]

What it comes down to me is that the people who are "OK" with bellamy leaving ... If indeed it is related to a fallout with mancini ... all acknowledge bellamy's contribution and are a bit sad that it has turned sour. but the most important aspect for them is creating a disciplined atmosphere which fosters team spirit and firmly establishes that no player is bigger than the club.

The people who are backing bellamy ( and this includes posts I've read on bluemong ) seem ok with him using our club like some dirty cum rag and showing clear disrespect to our manager.

It is unacceptable to disrespect the manager. Whether or not you think mancini is the right man for the job, atleast have the balls to stand up and say you can't talk shit and act the way bellamy has done and expect nothing to happen. the problem arises because no matter who is at fault you know bellamy won't back down, which turns a simple (though tad bit awkward) situation into a clusterfuck that sends everything south.

If bellamy had it in him to apologize and say he was wrong, accept the gaffers instruction and ACTUALLY TRAIN AND PLAY WITH THE CLUB AT HEART ... no one would have to worry about this. But bellamy does not train or play for the club ... he does it for himself and for his own pride. that is fine. but it's not fine when you come out and act billy big bollox. it's not fine when you are smiling like a jackal with the manager who has just slammed the door shut on your clubs aspirations ... not on the field, 30 seconds after the final whistle. It's not like the 2 were positioned next to each other either, Bellamy sought him out. Bollox to that.

The reason it has come to such harsh justice is down to bellamy's personality and that alone.

I can't believe anyone could argue that no punishment was warranted ... those that think it was harsh should sit down and have a think about the kind of person bellamy is and how difficult it would be to be chastised and accept responsibility and apologize. not likely to happen. I hope we can stop talking about this and back the manager and THE CLUB. not a player who has been with us for 18 months ... even though some would say he is the soul of the club now. what a joke.

[Kladze]

It's snidey & it's shite, it's lies & it's completely unneccessary. It's rank fucking shit management however people twist it.

Ted, you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak).....this could and should have been handled a lot more privately and a lot more speedily and fucking professionally.

However, those mistakes have no been made and the longer we allow this to drag on the worse we look and the more potential damage this can do to us/team spirit.

Get him to Cardiff asap I say.

Shit state of affairs that this was allowed to develop though

Let's see .......

Bellamy insists on a tailor made personal training routine.

Bellamy takes sides with Moyes against Mancini.

Bellamy appears 'less than distraught' at losing a champions league place to Spurs.

Bellamy gives full and frank interview to whoever is willing to listen.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes:

[Beeks]

As you well know I have been a Bellamy supporter since the off...when everyone was slagging him before he signed I said he would do well...and he did

I've been really pissed off that this situation between player and manager has materialised...however it has...and has snowballed

Unfortunately both sides have been backed into their respective corners and I very much doubt it will be resolved

I will be very very sad to see Bellers leave but if it is for the good of harmony within our ranks then so be it

As much as I love Bellers...I love City more

[avoidconfusion]

Let's see .......

Bellamy insists on a tailor made personal training routine.

Bellamy takes sides with Moyes against Mancini.

Bellamy appears 'less than distraught' at losing a champions league place to Spurs.

Bellamy gives full and frank interview to whoever is willing to listen.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes:

And let's not forget his high five for Redknapp right after we lost to Spurs.

[Kladze]

Let's see .......

Bellamy insists on a tailor made personal training routine.

Bellamy takes sides with Moyes against Mancini.

Bellamy appears 'less than distraught' at losing a champions league place to Spurs.

Bellamy gives full and frank interview to whoever is willing to listen.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes:

And let's not forget his high five for Redknapp right after we lost to Spurs.

I thunked I said that ;-o

[lets all have a disco]

Im not arsed now,i just want the squad to settle down.

Get the last player/players in,get rid of the other who dont feature,shut the doors and lets get on with it.

[ant london]

Let's see .......

Bellamy insists on a tailor made personal training routine.

Bellamy takes sides with Moyes against Mancini.

Bellamy appears 'less than distraught' at losing a champions league place to Spurs.

Bellamy gives full and frank interview to whoever is willing to listen.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes:

And let's not forget his high five for Redknapp right after we lost to Spurs.

I thunked I said that ;-o

Kladze.....the bad management part was the not dealing with this quickly and effectively.

Like a previous poster (Ted?) said....if Mancini didn't fancy him for the squad this season he should not have been taken to the US, he should not have been given the opportunity (as a Manchester City player/employee) to give those kind of interviews.

He should not have been left languishing, increasingly disillusioned, around the rest of the squad.

Bellamy has been a twat in terms of how he handled this and I am annoyed with him (as I really do like him) but it has been badly handled by the club since the end of last season.

I don't think it's that difficult to see the parts that have been poorly managed by the club....you appear to be focussed on Bellamy's part in this. My post was not about that....I am not siding with him, I think he should be shipped out asap....but if you can't see the flaws in the club's handling of this due to being blinded by anger/dislike towards/of Bellamy then you're a bit of an idiot.

[Rag_hater]

Good luck Cregg.Won't miss him that much myself as I don't think it will make us any weaker not having him.
What gets me is the hypocrasy shown by the Bellamy lickers.When Robbie did they same thing he got called every kind of cunt whereas to certain hypocrits Cregg has no choice and is a hero.

[ant london]

Good luck Cregg.Won't miss him that much myself as I don't think it will make us any weaker not having him.
What gets me is the hypocrasy shown by the Bellamy lickers.When Robbie did they same thing he got called every kind of cunt whereas to certain hypocrits Cregg has no choice and is a hero.

What a load of shite.....I said I think he's behaved like a twat and I want him gone pronto

I said Robinho behaved like a twat and was happy he was gone

[Beeks]

Good luck Cregg.Won't miss him that much myself as I don't think it will make us any weaker not having him.
What gets me is the hypocrasy shown by the Bellamy lickers.When Robbie did they same thing he got called every kind of cunt whereas to certain hypocrits Cregg has no choice and is a hero.

That's because unlike Robbie... Bellers has more effort in his little toe than our want away Brazilian...how you can compare the two is beyond me

[Kladze]

Let's see .......

Bellamy insists on a tailor made personal training routine.

Bellamy takes sides with Moyes against Mancini.

Bellamy appears 'less than distraught' at losing a champions league place to Spurs.

Bellamy gives full and frank interview to whoever is willing to listen.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes:

And let's not forget his high five for Redknapp right after we lost to Spurs.

I thunked I said that ;-o

Kladze.....the bad management part was the not dealing with this quickly and effectively.

Like a previous poster (Ted?) said....if Mancini didn't fancy him for the squad this season he should not have been taken to the US, he should not have been given the opportunity (as a Manchester City player/employee) to give those kind of interviews.

He should not have been left languishing, increasingly disillusioned, around the rest of the squad.

Bellamy has been a twat in terms of how he handled this and I am annoyed with him (as I really do like him) but it has been badly handled by the club since the end of last season.

I don't think it's that difficult to see the parts that have been poorly managed by the club....you appear to be focussed on Bellamy's part in this. My post was not about that....I am not siding with him, I think he should be shipped out asap....but if you can't see the flaws in the club's handling of this due to being blinded by anger/dislike towards/of Bellamy then you're a bit of an idiot.

But surely if the club had not taken him on the US tour that would have stunk even more. Besides, Mancini probably thought - at that stage - that he could still resolve their differences. It's only since Beller's outburst that the real shit has hit the fan.

btw Rag hater ..... I am so glad I have you foed. You really do spout some drivel. On the field of play I'd take one Bellamy over ten Robinhos, and they are both as bad off it.

[Ted Hughes]

Let's see .......

Bellamy has best season ever with 10 goals & 8 assists, fans love him.

Bellamy had a specific training routine suggested to him, which he followed religously & found it got him & kept fitter than ever before. Is made to change it.

Bellamy publicly shows support for Mancini by running to him after goal.

Bellamy Makes lighthearted quip about incident between Moyes & Mancini.

Bellamy appears not to be a sore loser at losing a champions league place to Spurs, is demonised by small section of fans.

Bellamy Is taken on pre season tour & starts 1st game, playing better than almost anyone else & helping Mancini organise team by relaying his orders.

Bellamy is dropped & replaced by a player who had disciplinary problems at the club when he was last around, was considered a bad influence, a bad trainer & had the same problems at his last loan club, police being called to his parties during the season.

Bellamy is praised for his effort & attitude by the manager.

Bellamy is offered to Wolfsburg & turns it down.

Bellamy is left on bench v Valencia to disappointment of crowd who vote his goal v rags as last year's goal of the season, cheering him as he warms up.

Bellamy is dumped from the UEFA squad in spite of places being available.

Bellamy does interview stating he thinks he's going to be sold but wants to stay & really loves playing for City. Says has asked for clarification several times but not got an answer, hasn't spoken to Mancini for 6 months but says that's not unusual was same with Hughes & other managers. Last bit gets ignored & is demonised by small section of fans.

Bellamy is dumped from PL squad offered to lower half PL teams + Celtic & Cardiff.

Bellamy is made to train with reserves along with Ireland.

Bellamy is allegedly banned from training ground.

you're right, it is appallingly bad management of the affair from all concerned (Mancini, Cook, Marwood, Al Mubarak) :rolleyes