Jo Again

[paulmclaren]

Because he's been playing well.

Against who exactly? A bunch of pre season yanks and suddenly he's in contention?

I could have rocked up and looked good

Give him a chance lol.

[gillie]

I think people just need someone direct their shit at. They look at the team sheet, moan like fuck about him and then spend the rest of the game justifying that judgment by convincing themselves everything he touches turns to shite.

I don't think he played too bad tonight. Some good stuff, some shit. Nothing worth hanging him for. Ade wasn't much better, IMO.

Ade was a darnt sight worse imo he is a lazy fucker how do you get caught offside 2 feet from the centre half.Jo did ok imo and he at least tried which is more than Ade did.

[Buffalo Soldier]

I think people just need someone direct their shit at. They look at the team sheet, moan like fuck about him and then spend the rest of the game justifying that judgment by convincing themselves everything he touches turns to shite.

I don't think he played too bad tonight. Some good stuff, some shit. Nothing worth hanging him for. Ade wasn't much better, IMO.

Ade was a darnt sight worse imo he is a lazy fucker how do you get caught offside 2 feet from the centre half.Jo did ok imo and he at least tried which is more than Ade did.

This was taken from the Sky Sports report

That goal sparked a fierce spell of pressure from City which saw Adebayor waste a great chance to grab the goal his work-rate warranted, firing wide from close range following a dreadful back-pass by Ovidiu Burca.

Proof if it was needed that these journalists don't watch the game.

I had a better work rate than Ade tonight.

[gillie]

I think people just need someone direct their shit at. They look at the team sheet, moan like fuck about him and then spend the rest of the game justifying that judgment by convincing themselves everything he touches turns to shite.

I don't think he played too bad tonight. Some good stuff, some shit. Nothing worth hanging him for. Ade wasn't much better, IMO.

Ade was a darnt sight worse imo he is a lazy fucker how do you get caught offside 2 feet from the centre half.Jo did ok imo and he at least tried which is more than Ade did.

This was taken from the Sky Sports report

That goal sparked a fierce spell of pressure from City which saw Adebayor waste a great chance to grab the goal his work-rate warranted, firing wide from close range following a dreadful back-pass by Ovidiu Burca.

Proof if it was needed that these journalists don't watch the game.

I had a better work rate than Ade tonight.

Ade was woeful tonight and that chance he missed i could have scored.

[pepsi_dave]

We all saw how shit Jo was when he first came here, I thought though he occasionally showed glimpses of quality, but admittedly, not many.

I think he actually HAS improved from when he first arrived, he's not a world beater, and he's certainly not at this level, a prolific goal scorer. But on the flip side, Mancini rates him, Mancini must see something in him that we're all missing and I'd love to know what it is because I bloody well can't see it, or perhaps there is another take to it. Perhaps we are better off having a player who is trying to work his way into the first team in the squad and play little bits here and there, rather than a player who expects to be a first team player playing little bits here and there being unhappy and disruptive.

Also, i don't think Jo is any sort of back up, I imagine that Mancini sees him more of a "promising" young player, who can still improve a lot, but will only play a bit part throughout the season so that he can try and ease him into first team gently (Ala Boyata, Cunningham, Ibrahim etc last season). Before any of you start giving me it all about how he's played 18 months in the Premier League so he should be used to it etc etc..... I agree with what you, but sometimes a different approach my get better results. Perhaps he's more likely to improve here than he ever would be at Everton or Galatasary, so it certainly can't hurt to give him a year under Mancini's tutelage.

[saulman]

I think people just need someone direct their shit at. They look at the team sheet, moan like fuck about him and then spend the rest of the game justifying that judgment by convincing themselves everything he touches turns to shite.

I don't think he played too bad tonight. Some good stuff, some shit. Nothing worth hanging him for. Ade wasn't much better, IMO.

Ade was a darnt sight worse imo he is a lazy fucker how do you get caught offside 2 feet from the centre half.Jo did ok imo and he at least tried which is more than Ade did.

This was taken from the Sky Sports report

That goal sparked a fierce spell of pressure from City which saw Adebayor waste a great chance to grab the goal his work-rate warranted, firing wide from close range following a dreadful back-pass by Ovidiu Burca.

Proof if it was needed that these journalists don't watch the game.

I had a better work rate than Ade tonight.

He did look a cock when he was caught offside, whilst strolling back on towards the end of the game. He certainly doesn't look interested, that's for sure.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Jo is indeed wank.

That said the fact that some of you are comparing a legit 1 in 2 striker like ade to him makes me feel less intelligent on your behalf. Ade opened with 4 from 4 last season and despite many interruptions still scored more than Jo will before the next world cup.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Have you noticed that all the clubs we have loaned him to havn't followed up their interest? ...there is a reason for that you know

True, he was absolutely, comically fucking shite but a lot of that was down to him being another half hearted wanker like Robinho rather than having no talent. If his idols are bone idle ( lazy arsed talent wasting tossers like Ronaldinho, Adriano, Elano & Robinho), it's hardly surprising either.

He gives the impression that he's at least trying to turn his life around & be a footballer now rather than a playboy & as we'll have spaces in the squad, it does no harm to have a look at him imo. I hope he makes it, I admire someone who tries to change his life.

I agree with Ted that the problem with Jo isn't his skill level or talent. He DOES have the talent to be a good player. It's all mental with him. Mancini probably thinks he can turn him around. And to be fair, Mancini has worked successfully with problematic yet talented players in the past.

[ronk]

Sometimes, I'd say it was more about application than effort with Jo, though he can be work shy at times. He did track back and he did chase somewhat but he will always suffer in comparison with Tevez or Bellamy.

I remember one backheel he telegraphed so obviously receiving the ball just outside the box that he could have trapped the ball and turned with a clear run into the penalty area. Even failing would have kept the defenders honest. Some of the offsides were more poor timing and understanding (and concentration) than sloth. But the trap was being sprung too.

He's definitely upped his workrate a huge amount, but that aspect of your game is not something that happens overnight. I think Mancini has seen the improvement and thinks that's there's more to come. I thought he did better when used as a sub, indicating that he concentrates better when fresher.

There were some good touches and nice moments. He might well have scored.

[kinkylola]

sometimes Jo shows some great movement and positional awareness playing off of another striker like ade. Sometimes it isn't there at all. I think he's very erratic, but has talent and skills. I think adding workrate to the equation can help level off his performance, so that even if what he's doing isn't coming off he'll still be working for the team. If you honestly think RSC is better than jo, we don't see eye to eye on several things. Firstly, RSC looks SO sluggish it's unreal, his movement and his footwork make him look like he is operating in tv slow motion replay. Secondly, RSC's positioning has never looked good, at least not when I've seen him at city. RSC does not have a good work rate ... because if he tracks back he'll never make it up front again to be anywhere near the box when we need him. If you're basing your ratings of RSC's skills on 1 season at blackburn, in which many of his goals were him standing still on the penalty spot and being the tallest person around when a cross came in, you really aren't getting the whole picture. PLUS with the injuries he is too much of a liability to bring on.

I would have loved him to come here and recapture the form that saw him score so many as a blackburn player, but not even counting the problems I have with his playing style/technique ... he can't even stay fit for HALF a season, let alone a long campaign in 4 competitions. Jo has had no major injury problems ... seems to be willing to work with mancini to improve, and most importantly for a 4th striker ... he will be fit if/when we need him. We need to cut our losses with RSC, ship him off to wherever he will go for whatever htey will pay and get him off the wage bill. Jo can be 4th striker, play in some cup games. This combined with our youth contingent is more than enough for our strikeforce

[Slim]

Because the window is open, gotta put your priced to clear stock in the shop window.

[Ted Hughes]

Jo wasn't playing as a striker last night.

He did fuck up badly on occasions but didn't give the ball away alf as much as Silva & had the odd good moment,like Silva. He improved a lot as the game went on though & ended up doing some nice touches, looking pretty good but still not quite good enough for the 1st 11, just like Silva.

I guess if your a famous Spanish bloke & you pass the ball to the oppo quite a lot it's much more acceptable than being a big daft looking Braziilan & doing it twice though.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Jo wasn't playing as a striker last night.

He did fuck up badly on occasions but didn't give the ball away alf as much as Silva & had the odd good moment,like Silva. He improved a lot as the game went on though & ended up doing some nice touches, looking pretty good but still not quite good enough for the 1st 11, just like Silva.

I guess if your a famous Spanish bloke & you pass the ball to the oppo quite a lot it's much more acceptable than being a big daft looking Braziilan & doing it twice though.

Glad someone said it. While Jo wasn't exactly shining star last night, he was still better than Silva.

[Ted Hughes]

Jo wasn't playing as a striker last night.

He did fuck up badly on occasions but didn't give the ball away alf as much as Silva & had the odd good moment,like Silva. He improved a lot as the game went on though & ended up doing some nice touches, looking pretty good but still not quite good enough for the 1st 11, just like Silva.

I guess if your a famous Spanish bloke & you pass the ball to the oppo quite a lot it's much more acceptable than being a big daft looking Braziilan & doing it twice though.

Glad someone said it. While Jo wasn't exactly shining star last night, he was still better than Silva.

I was watching the passing game carefully last night & both silva & Jo were starting to get a little confidence & spring in their step as the game went on. I expect Silva will now move up a gear & leave Jo behind but I just have a faint hope that Jo will join him.

[TonyM]

Ireland is better than both atm. Hoping they'll improve with games though.

Not going down the rat hole now re ireland but last night I felt saddened thinking he should have been out there.

[kinkylola]

Ireland is better than both atm. Hoping they'll improve with games though.

Not going down the rat hole now re ireland but last night I felt saddened thinking he should have been out there.

no, sorry. you are absolutely wrong. Say what you want about Jo or Silva's skill ... but atleast they care if the team win or lose, and both did some tracking back. Both also can play more than one position.

[Dronny]

I thought both Jo and Silva improved as the game went on, whether that was to do with the fact that their players were getting knackered and couldn't be arsed to get 10 players back to their 18 yard line, or their confidence and awareness improved, who knows?

Had to laugh at some of Jo's step over's, I haven't seen anything as obvious since I last took the dog for a walk and side stepped a steaming turd.

[Dubaimancityfan]

and what mr Haircut have we got to lose anyway?

As per the other thread...do you really want to go into this season with Jo as back up?

If we get any injuries...do you really want this guy leading the line?

Here's an idea...why don't we loan him out to Timbucktoo Rovers and get in a striker who is...

A) Going to make an effort

and

B) Score goals

What is stopping us from keeping Jo & doing that anyway, if such a player exists?

It's also a question of keeping players content even though they are benched / used as bit-part players.

How would we possibly fit in another world class striker without fucking one of the ones we have off (I'm being generous and count both Ade as Mario as (potential) world class)?

That's a good question Mr. Nool for all those who are saying we need to sign another striker ala Dzeko or Ibra. That would really make Ade and Mario very happy !!

As for Jo, I think he did a decent job last night and was close to scoring on 2 ocassions. It was his first start of the season and will only improve, given the chance, as he seems to have the right attitude now.

[Ted Hughes]

Ireland is better than both atm. Hoping they'll improve with games though.

Not going down the rat hole now re ireland but last night I felt saddened thinking he should have been out there.

He was out there, v Rapid Vienna.

[Ted Hughes]

and what mr Haircut have we got to lose anyway?

As per the other thread...do you really want to go into this season with Jo as back up?

If we get any injuries...do you really want this guy leading the line?

Here's an idea...why don't we loan him out to Timbucktoo Rovers and get in a striker who is...

A) Going to make an effort

and

B) Score goals

What is stopping us from keeping Jo & doing that anyway, if such a player exists?

It's also a question of keeping players content even though they are benched / used as bit-part players.

How would we possibly fit in another world class striker without fucking one of the ones we have off (I'm being generous and count both Ade as Mario as (potential) world class)?

That's a good question Mr. Nool for all those who are saying we need to sign another striker ala Dzeko or Ibra. That would really make Ade and Mario very happy !!

As for Jo, I think he did a decent job last night and was close to scoring on 2 ocassions. It was his first start of the season and will only improve, given the chance, as he seems to have the right attitude now.

It's not about making players happy though, as we've seen with Bellamy & Ireland & probably RSC & Robinho.