Ade

[Ted Hughes]

Expect much more of this.

From players who can't make the grade. Anyone good enough and confident enough to want to fight for their place deserves that place when they finally get it.

Anyone who whinges that they're on the fringes can work harder at getting better or fuck off.

Agreed. But in the position we're in a lot of these type of players will be here.

Most have gone or are about to go. Ade & shay are the main doubts. What a shame we dumped Bellamy, who wanted to stay & fight for his place.

I guess Bellamy didn't fit in. He's got the talent, obviously. His personality was just at odds with Mancini and if it's a choice between the two, there is no choice.

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

[the_georgian_genius]

Huge fan of ade but i thought he was an embarrassment last night, probably his worst performance for us. Need to keep him though as he will score you goals and if he went before Tuesday it would leave us short up top.

[Beeks]

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

I agree...however as we all know...Bellers didn't leave for footballing reasons...it was his relationship with Bobby

And like has been mentioned...there was only going to be one winner there

[the_georgian_genius]

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

PMSL of course yeah. Craig Bellamy was the centre piece of us this season hahahahaha. Honestly the craig bellamy fanclub is more deluded and hilairious than the worlds top 20 comedians all in one room.

[irblinx]

If we can replace him with Dzecko I'd do the deal in a flash

[Ted Hughes]

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

PMSL of course yeah. Craig Bellamy was the centre piece of us this season hahahahaha. Honestly the craig bellamy fanclub is more deluded and hilairious than the worlds top 20 comedians all in one room.

Or just you.

[brite blu sky]

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

I agree...however as we all know...Bellers didn't leave for footballing reasons...it was his relationship with Bobby

And like has been mentioned...there was only going to be one winner there

Ted, i think we have to try and see a bigger picture here.. Mancini wants a certain set up.. and Bellers for him probably just was not right and at the wrong end of his career.. ie couldn't be moulded. Also it is all well and good saying we should have replacements in.. but who? who is better both in ability and attitude than what we have and wants to move from where they are?
Limited applicants, so while Bob is trying to get what he wants there is a reality check. if he can get someone i am sure he will, if he cant we will have to make do with what we have. If we lose Ade cos his head and attitude is not right then so be it, thats life and he is better out than in. It is Mancini's show and he looks like he doesn't make too many compromises.

[avoidconfusion]

If we can replace him with Dzecko I'd do the deal in a flash

At this stage I'd also take Ibracadabra over Adebayor to be honest... or Benzema...
If RSC, Robinho and Ade are really goners and we are left with Jo (shit), Tevez and Balotelli (who is already injured) then we can forget about winning anything this season I think.

[CityGer]

The warning signs were there after the Arsenel game at home last season. For him to indulge himself as he did, knowing that there would be consequences, showed a complete disregard for the club, the fans and his team mates.

He's done nothing since to disprove my theory that he is a lazy, selfish, moaning faced, prima donna and I'm amazed that Bobby hasn't got rid already. I thought it would have been one of his first moves this summer.

Whatever formation Bobby has in mind as his primary set up, over the season we'll need a target man. We can't rely on Ade and Balo is too young and potentially too nuts to rely on either.

I'd love to see Bobby replace him, Dzeko would have been my first choice but I wouldn't mind at all if he took a punt on someone on the cheap as I just don't see Ade as a viable option.

[paulmclaren]

I've never rated the guy.
He's just a long streak of piss upfront who has a bad attitude and never gets dirty.
Good riddance Ade.

[Ted Hughes]

One of the most blatantly stupid moves in our history of cock ups in my opinion. The only possible way it could have made sense was if we'd signed a replacement. as I said at the time; Ade, Balotelli, Jo cannot be trusted, Robinho is most likely off & RSC is leaving/injured. Truly awful management by all concerned & an almost criminal gambling with our chances for the season.

I agree...however as we all know...Bellers didn't leave for footballing reasons...it was his relationship with Bobby

And like has been mentioned...there was only going to be one winner there

Ted, i think we have to try and see a bigger picture here.. Mancini wants a certain set up.. and Bellers for him probably just was not right and at the wrong end of his career.. ie couldn't be moulded. Also it is all well and good saying we should have replacements in.. but who? who is better both in ability and attitude than what we have and wants to move from where they are?
Limited applicants, so while Bob is trying to get what he wants there is a reality check. if he can get someone i am sure he will, if he cant we will have to make do with what we have. If we lose Ade cos his head and attitude is not right then so be it, thats life and he is better out than in. It is Mancini's show and he looks like he doesn't make too many compromises.

I'm right behind Mancini in almost everything but if Hughes had basically chucked Bellamy out & left us with a bunch of nutters + RSC & Jo everyone would have called him a fucking knob.

I wouldn't mind if we had Alan Shearer or Gary Lineker or even Peter Crouch up front but look what we've got; talented nutters who can't be trusted. Balotelli has barely kicked a ball yet either. I think he'll become one of the greats but he's a potential liability at present & anyway, how many teams have won trophies relying exclusively on 20 year old strikers?. Adebayor is someone who was a totally unreliable headcase BEFORE watching his mates get shot. RSC is injured all the time & not wanted anyway. Jo is Jo. Robinho is Robinho & probably off. We have ONE reliable striker in Tevez. What if he gets badly injured?

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway, I think that's made up & it was just purely a bad decision) & if neccessary, they should fucking manage the player until the situation is adequately dealt with. Mancini has got most things right but he's dealt with this like a fucking knob & if Ade throws a wobbler we'll probably pay for it.

[CityGer]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

[Crossie]

I actually think we should keep him and let him play in the early round cup games and shit European games, just so we can give him some shit about wanting to leave.

What the fuck is wrong with him? Like someone said, 4 games, 2 appearances and a sub appearance too, no goals, not much going on except setting up Mario against the window cleaners.

I want him to be booed for whoring himself away from our club, make him feel ashamed. He could have kicked his career onto another level with us, but he isnt prepared to try.

Rot in hell

[Ted Hughes]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

I don't agree that's what happened & even if it had, his fate had already been decided before that, he knew it & if you're honest you pretty much knew it too. I'm not willing to argue any further on it though, I've said it & I'm more concerned now about what we do next.

[Rag_hater]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

I don't agree that's what happened & even if it had, his fate had already been decided before that, he knew it & if you're honest you pretty much knew it too. I'm not willing to argue any further on it though, I've said it & I'm more concerned now about what we do next.

I think what we do next is put James there and in my opinion that is a move up.

[CityGer]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

I don't agree that's what happened & even if it had, his fate had already been decided before that, he knew it & if you're honest you pretty much knew it too. I'm not willing to argue any further on it though, I've said it & I'm more concerned now about what we do next.

So you're happy to make assumptions in this case concerning our manager but not a known shit stirrer in Bellamy?

Makes great sense, Ted.

[mr_nool]

No matter that Bellamy is gone or the reason why, he still wouldn't be a replacement for Ade. If Ade leaves or continues to be uninspired, we need a totally different player than Bellamy to cover for him. I my opinion Bellamy was rather competing with SWP/Adam Johnson/Milner for a spot than with Tevez/Ade/Mario/Jo.

[Ted Hughes]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

I don't agree that's what happened & even if it had, his fate had already been decided before that, he knew it & if you're honest you pretty much knew it too. I'm not willing to argue any further on it though, I've said it & I'm more concerned now about what we do next.

So you're happy to make assumptions in this case concerning our manager but not a known shit stirrer in Bellamy?

Makes great sense, Ted.

I'm not interested in all the nonsense people want to peddle about Bellamy, it makes me sick & I've backed Mancini on everything else he's done.

I'm stating my opinion that I don't trust the forwards that we currently have because although very talented, they have reputations, well earned, for going mental & if it happens this season it could fuck us up badly. Ade last night didn't look right, now he's moaning to the media again, we should do something in the market imo.

[shortagain]

He wants to play regular football, just like he did last season, banned following the Arsenal game, off to the Africa Cup of Nations, got himself shot at, so can't consider playing football and finally returns unfit, so didn't do a great deal after that.

This is the same guy who wanted away from Arsenal because the fans didn't respect him when he was playing bad, bet he still drew his wages, as he has done with us all the time he has not been playing, but then again, he wants regular football.

His answer is simple really, do what he is paid to do, put the ball in the net and he might finds he plays more often

[CityGer]

Managers should look at the situation of the club before any personal stuff (which I don't believe it was anyway

Does the same apply to players who organise their own press conferences to air their concerns and whore themselves for a move?

I don't agree that's what happened & even if it had, his fate had already been decided before that, he knew it & if you're honest you pretty much knew it too. I'm not willing to argue any further on it though, I've said it & I'm more concerned now about what we do next.

So you're happy to make assumptions in this case concerning our manager but not a known shit stirrer in Bellamy?

Makes great sense, Ted.

I'm not interested in all the nonsense people want to peddle about Bellamy, it makes me sick & I've backed Mancini on everything else he's done.

I'm stating my opinion that I don't trust the forwards that we currently have because although very talented, they have reputations, well earned, for going mental & if it happens this season it could fuck us up badly. Ade last night didn't look right, now he's moaning to the media again, we should do something in the market imo.

But you are interested in the nonesense peddled about Mancini? You're talking in riddles and, as usual, chosing to ignore one side of the argument in order to 'peddle' your own view.