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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Socrates » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:13 pm

dikdik wrote:ashton287 wrote:
WE LOST A FOOTBALL MATCH

O M F G

EVERYBODY OUT, IT WAS EVERYBODIES FAULT. THE AWAY FANS WERE SHIT. THE REF WAS A CUNT. SHEIKH MANSOUR DIDNT GIVE US ENOUGH MONEY. TEVEZ IS WANK. LESCOTT IS SLOW. THE BALL IS TOO ROUND. THE GRASS WAS FAAAR TOO SHORT AND CUT IN THE WRONG PATTERN. WE NEED DZEKO. FUCKING MERCENARIES DONT EVEN TRY THEY JUST WANT THERE MONEY.

I love the way this forum goes into hyper teenage girl who's just been dumped while on her first period the day after her dog died mode when we lose.

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Only one thing wrong with this post. It's their money not there money ;o) Otherwise A*


Only ONE thing wrong my socratic friend?

Are you definIIIIIIIIIIIITE about that

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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Socrates » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:14 pm

Chinners wrote:
Socrates wrote:
s1ty m wrote:
Chinners wrote:As always I blame New Labour


I blame thatcher. for everything. ever.


What, Ben?


Ha ha, good work!

Blaming Thatcher is so last decade, you need to move with the times.


Absolutely, I now blame Clegg.
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby saulman » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:52 pm

s1ty m wrote:
Chinners wrote:As always I blame New Labour


I blame thatcher. for everything. ever.


This.
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:54 pm

Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:OK, we'll no longer talk about what went wrong but only on what was right. Who wants to go first?


Everything went right apart from Tevez missing a sitter of Ronnie Rosenthal proportions and Adebayor not getting a bit more on that flick from the corner. We wouldn't have all the hysterical nonsense if either of those chances had been taken and people would be busily congratulating Mancini on another good performance.

I've not seen any hysterics mate, just people expressing concern for the tactics. And, what if those 'ifs' you talk about become a regular occurrence? We don't create that many clear cut chances with our tactics so we have to take them when we can.

For me, I stated very early in Mancini's tenure that I was willing forego the negative tactics, and I still am, but if we are getting tonked at certain times I'd like to see the changes earlier. We waited far to late and got away with it at Tottenham, but didn't against Sunderland, but maybe if he'd taken heed of the way we were giving the teams far too much respect, especially with the players we have, then maybe the outcomes would have been different.

PS. Do you actually think everything went right? Maybe to the tactics that were set, but not for the tactics that could've been in my opinion.
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Chinners » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:37 pm

Socrates wrote: Absolutely, I now blame Clegg.



ooh, we have a seer in our midst . . . hee hee
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Socrates » Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:46 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:OK, we'll no longer talk about what went wrong but only on what was right. Who wants to go first?


Everything went right apart from Tevez missing a sitter of Ronnie Rosenthal proportions and Adebayor not getting a bit more on that flick from the corner. We wouldn't have all the hysterical nonsense if either of those chances had been taken and people would be busily congratulating Mancini on another good performance.

I've not seen any hysterics mate, just people expressing concern for the tactics. And, what if those 'ifs' you talk about become a regular occurrence? We don't create that many clear cut chances with our tactics so we have to take them when we can.

For me, I stated very early in Mancini's tenure that I was willing forego the negative tactics, and I still am, but if we are getting tonked at certain times I'd like to see the changes earlier. We waited far to late and got away with it at Tottenham, but didn't against Sunderland, but maybe if he'd taken heed of the way we were giving the teams far too much respect, especially with the players we have, then maybe the outcomes would have been different.

PS. Do you actually think everything went right? Maybe to the tactics that were set, but not for the tactics that could've been in my opinion.


Nothing wrong with the tactics, and they aren't remotely negative - we had 3 out and out attack minded players and two box to box players taking turn to support. Enabled us to dominate possession for long periods and create the chances to put them out of sight. Sure we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities. We score just as many goals per game with Mancini as we did with the previous manager.
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby ashton287 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:01 pm

Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:OK, we'll no longer talk about what went wrong but only on what was right. Who wants to go first?


Everything went right apart from Tevez missing a sitter of Ronnie Rosenthal proportions and Adebayor not getting a bit more on that flick from the corner. We wouldn't have all the hysterical nonsense if either of those chances had been taken and people would be busily congratulating Mancini on another good performance.

I've not seen any hysterics mate, just people expressing concern for the tactics. And, what if those 'ifs' you talk about become a regular occurrence? We don't create that many clear cut chances with our tactics so we have to take them when we can.

For me, I stated very early in Mancini's tenure that I was willing forego the negative tactics, and I still am, but if we are getting tonked at certain times I'd like to see the changes earlier. We waited far to late and got away with it at Tottenham, but didn't against Sunderland, but maybe if he'd taken heed of the way we were giving the teams far too much respect, especially with the players we have, then maybe the outcomes would have been different.

PS. Do you actually think everything went right? Maybe to the tactics that were set, but not for the tactics that could've been in my opinion.


Nothing wrong with the tactics, and they aren't remotely negative - we had 3 out and out attack minded players and two box to box players taking turn to support. Enabled us to dominate possession for long periods and create the chances to put them out of sight. Sure we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities. We score just as many goals per game with Mancini as we did with the previous manager.


Even if our tactics arent that good, our home form will keep us up.
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Dronny » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:24 pm

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ashton287 wrote:WE LOST A FOOTBALL MATCH

O M F G

EVERYBODY OUT, IT WAS EVERYBODIES FAULT. THE AWAY FANS WERE SHIT. THE REF WAS A CUNT. SHEIKH MANSOUR DIDNT GIVE US ENOUGH MONEY. TEVEZ IS WANK. LESCOTT IS SLOW. THE BALL IS TOO ROUND. THE GRASS WAS FAAAR TOO SHORT AND CUT IN THE WRONG PATTERN. WE NEED DZEKO. FUCKING MERCENARIES DONT EVEN TRY THEY JUST WANT THERE MONEY.

I love the way this forum goes into hyper teenage girl who's just been dumped while on her first period the day after her dog died mode when we lose.

See you all at blackburn.

Can you imagine the post if it had snowed!!


Funny as fuck mate, made me laugh out loud! Must have passed some by even if Ash17 was being ironic
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby the_georgian_genius » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:33 pm

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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:54 pm

Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:OK, we'll no longer talk about what went wrong but only on what was right. Who wants to go first?


Everything went right apart from Tevez missing a sitter of Ronnie Rosenthal proportions and Adebayor not getting a bit more on that flick from the corner. We wouldn't have all the hysterical nonsense if either of those chances had been taken and people would be busily congratulating Mancini on another good performance.

I've not seen any hysterics mate, just people expressing concern for the tactics. And, what if those 'ifs' you talk about become a regular occurrence? We don't create that many clear cut chances with our tactics so we have to take them when we can.

For me, I stated very early in Mancini's tenure that I was willing forego the negative tactics, and I still am, but if we are getting tonked at certain times I'd like to see the changes earlier. We waited far to late and got away with it at Tottenham, but didn't against Sunderland, but maybe if he'd taken heed of the way we were giving the teams far too much respect, especially with the players we have, then maybe the outcomes would have been different.

PS. Do you actually think everything went right? Maybe to the tactics that were set, but not for the tactics that could've been in my opinion.


Nothing wrong with the tactics, and they aren't remotely negative - we had 3 out and out attack minded players and two box to box players taking turn to support. Enabled us to dominate possession for long periods and create the chances to put them out of sight. Sure we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities. We score just as many goals per game with Mancini as we did with the previous manager.

Do you honestly believe that once we were found out, our tactics were still good?

You say we dominated possession yet we were way down on territorial advantage; or doesn't that matter?

You also say 'we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities', yet the fact was that we only had 4 shots, and only half of those were on target - yes, 2! How many did they have again, 3 times as many maybe?
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Lev Bronstein » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:24 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:OK, we'll no longer talk about what went wrong but only on what was right. Who wants to go first?


Everything went right apart from Tevez missing a sitter of Ronnie Rosenthal proportions and Adebayor not getting a bit more on that flick from the corner. We wouldn't have all the hysterical nonsense if either of those chances had been taken and people would be busily congratulating Mancini on another good performance.

I've not seen any hysterics mate, just people expressing concern for the tactics. And, what if those 'ifs' you talk about become a regular occurrence? We don't create that many clear cut chances with our tactics so we have to take them when we can.

For me, I stated very early in Mancini's tenure that I was willing forego the negative tactics, and I still am, but if we are getting tonked at certain times I'd like to see the changes earlier. We waited far to late and got away with it at Tottenham, but didn't against Sunderland, but maybe if he'd taken heed of the way we were giving the teams far too much respect, especially with the players we have, then maybe the outcomes would have been different.

PS. Do you actually think everything went right? Maybe to the tactics that were set, but not for the tactics that could've been in my opinion.


Hmm. The old brain may getting a bit faulty, but, I can only remember one serious shot on our goal. Sure, they might have had more shots on target, but only the pen troubled Hart. I think the Sunderland keeper made two saves, one from Ade and one from Yaya. Plus the Tevez miss, apart from the pen, was the best chance of the game and wouldn't count as a shot on target. Also it was the result of some great play that cut their defence to ribbons in a way ours never was.

I take your point that we don't create many chances. But I think that Bobby sees his immediate job to tighten us up and play a controlled game that concedes little to the opposition - early days for that one methinks.

Nothing wrong with the tactics, and they aren't remotely negative - we had 3 out and out attack minded players and two box to box players taking turn to support. Enabled us to dominate possession for long periods and create the chances to put them out of sight. Sure we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities. We score just as many goals per game with Mancini as we did with the previous manager.

Do you honestly believe that once we were found out, our tactics were still good?

You say we dominated possession yet we were way down on territorial advantage; or doesn't that matter?

You also say 'we are also difficult to break down these days but not at the expense of creating opportunities', yet the fact was that we only had 4 shots, and only half of those were on target - yes, 2! How many did they have again, 3 times as many maybe?
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:35 pm

Lev Bronstein wrote:Hmm. The old brain may getting a bit faulty, but, I can only remember one serious shot on our goal. Sure, they might have had more shots on target, but only the pen troubled Hart. I think the Sunderland keeper made two saves, one from Ade and one from Yaya. Plus the Tevez miss, apart from the pen, was the best chance of the game and wouldn't count as a shot on target. Also it was the result of some great play that cut their defence to ribbons in a way ours never was.

I take your point that we don't create many chances. But I think that Bobby sees his immediate job to tighten us up and play a controlled game that concedes little to the opposition - early days for that one methinks.

Bloody hell mate, I had to work that one out ;-)
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Lev Bronstein » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:24 pm

Oh yeah, what the hell happened there???
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby Slim » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:22 am

I know it was a sarcastic(sardonic?) rant post, but who wouldn't want Dzeko?
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Re: It was definately someones FAULT

Postby ashton287 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:22 pm

Slim wrote:I know it was a sarcastic(sardonic?) rant post, but who wouldn't want Dzeko?


Yeah i was just including the panic buyers out there into it. I'd want him BUT don't think we really need him or anyone else. Only thing we need right now is 3 of our signings to be fit and get some games under there belt and a few games to, WAIT FOR IIIT...

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