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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby mcfctm » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:52 am

The thing I don't understand is why are spurs buying another midfielder? Its a stupid buy imo cos they already have modric and krankjar who play a similar position to him and bale is in form on the left. Don't give a crap if it goes through or not cos he won't make a huge difference to that spurs team.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Mase » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:53 am

Sky Sports News understands Tottenham Hotspur missed the deadline to finalise the paperwork for the signing of Rafael van der Vaart.

Spurs made a late bid to bring in Holland international Van der Vaart and tried to complete the deal before Tuesday's 6pm cut-off.

However, it is understood that technical issues prevented the necessary paperwork from being completed and Spurs have now requested special dispensation from the Premier League to add the midfielder to their squad.

The club were not initially expected to be particularly active on deadline day, but the sudden availability of Van der Vaart at a knock-down price of £8million prompted Spurs to act.

Manager Harry Redknapp told Sky Sports News on Tuesday evening that he was hopeful of signing Van der Vaart and conceded the club could not pass up such an opportunity.

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"I think he was going to Bayern Munich yesterday for about £18million, but suddenly it became an awful lot cheaper," said Redknapp.

"He is available now for about £8million. He is a quality player. He is a Dutch international and a great footballer.

"For that sort of money, he is a top player and he will improve us for sure. We have made the effort, whether we can pull it off or not we will have to see.

"I am hopeful. It could happen. It was a last-minute job. When I came in this morning it certainly wasn't something I was looking to do."

He added: "He is a great passer of the ball, he is a top footballer. He will join in here and play the way we like to play, he would be a big plus for us.

"He looked like he was going for £18million but then the fee came crashing down because the deadline got close. If the chairman can pull it off, I think he will have got a real bargain."
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby smurfsdabomb » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:58 am

Would say they'll play Modric out wide, VdV and Palacios in the centre.

Maybe

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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Crossie » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:00 pm

I hope this fails,

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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Esky » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:02 pm

smurfsdabomb wrote:Would say they'll play Modric out wide, VdV and Palacios in the centre.

Maybe

Lennon - Palacios - vdv - Modric


Still leaves Kranjcar, Huddlestone, Bale, Jenas, Bentley, Sandro and O'Hara on the books. They have four competitions to rotate in, mind.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Fidel Castro » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:04 pm

Green & Blue wrote:First tax evasion, now transfer deadline evasion.What cant the man evade ?


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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:25 pm

Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby ashton287 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:30 pm

Real don't sell good players. They sell players that used to be good that are not upto it at the top level anymore. VdV will be another ex real flop in the prem.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:36 pm

ashton287 wrote:Real don't sell good players. They sell players that used to be good that are not upto it at the top level anymore. VdV will be another ex real flop in the prem.

Oh I don't know mate, he is just surplus to requirement at Real and they are trying to get players off the wage bill, hence the price. vdV Has played in his home country as well as a few years in Germany where he made his mark, and at only 27 he's got plenty of life in those legs as well.

I actually thought he had a decent WC for someone who was out of his club team, and pretty sure he only got dropped due to Robben coming back in the side (?).
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby mcfctm » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:59 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.


I disagree. We needed Milner, a versatile player who could get forward when playing in the middle (unlike barry and de jong) and also when wide can cross (unlike swp) however i don't understand how VdV is different to modric or krankjar.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Fidel Castro » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:11 pm

mcfctm wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.


I disagree. We needed Milner, a versatile player who could get forward when playing in the middle (unlike barry and de jong) and also when wide can cross (unlike swp) however i don't understand how VdV is different to modric or krankjar.


I do know how he's different. He is slower and fatter.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby mcfctm » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:16 pm

Fidel Castro wrote:
mcfctm wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.


I disagree. We needed Milner, a versatile player who could get forward when playing in the middle (unlike barry and de jong) and also when wide can cross (unlike swp) however i don't understand how VdV is different to modric or krankjar.


I do know how he's different. He is slower and fatter.


Haha sorry I should have put "don't know how he is better than modric or krankjar"
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:41 pm

Some people are assuming Harry buys players to do a particular job but imo he rarely does that unless it's to change one for one. I mean he was trying to sign Babel too. Where the fuck would he play?

Harry likes signing/selling players, (for various reasons). He's explained the reason why he signed VDV; it was to good an opportunity to miss. There's no special planning behind it, Harry saw a possible bargain & bought him. Now he'll try to find a way of fitting him in. If we'd offered Harry; Bridge or Given or SWP or Lescott or Ade he'd take any of them if the price was right, whatever the position. Then he'd sell almost anyone to fund it. He said himself he almost sold Bale to Hughes last summer. He would have sold Crouch in Jan, if the right offer came in, you can bet on it.

If it fucks up the balance of Spurs' side, it will be the chairman's fault for not spending enough money & making him buy 2nd raters. If it works really well it'll be genius by Harry.

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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby mr_nool » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:44 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Some people are assuming Harry buys players to do a particular job but imo he rarely does that unless it's to change one for one. I mean he was trying to sign Babel too. Where the fuck would he play?

Harry likes signing/selling players, (for various reasons). He's explained the reason why he signed VDV; it was to good an opportunity to miss. There's no special planning behind it, Harry saw a possible bargain & bought him. Now he'll try to find a way of fitting him in. If we'd offered Harry; Bridge or Given or SWP or Lescott or Ade he'd take any of them if the price was right, whatever the position. Then he'd sell almost anyone to fund it. He said himself he almost sold Bale to Hughes last summer. He would have sold Crouch in Jan, if the right offer came in, you can bet on it.

If it fucks up the balance of Spurs' side, it will be the chairman's fault for not spending enough money & making him buy 2nd raters. If it works really well it'll be genius by Harry.

Slimey old twat.


When you say it like that it almost sounds like he would be some sort of wheeler dealer ...
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:46 pm

mr_nool wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Some people are assuming Harry buys players to do a particular job but imo he rarely does that unless it's to change one for one. I mean he was trying to sign Babel too. Where the fuck would he play?

Harry likes signing/selling players, (for various reasons). He's explained the reason why he signed VDV; it was to good an opportunity to miss. There's no special planning behind it, Harry saw a possible bargain & bought him. Now he'll try to find a way of fitting him in. If we'd offered Harry; Bridge or Given or SWP or Lescott or Ade he'd take any of them if the price was right, whatever the position. Then he'd sell almost anyone to fund it. He said himself he almost sold Bale to Hughes last summer. He would have sold Crouch in Jan, if the right offer came in, you can bet on it.

If it fucks up the balance of Spurs' side, it will be the chairman's fault for not spending enough money & making him buy 2nd raters. If it works really well it'll be genius by Harry.

Slimey old twat.


When you say it like that it almost sounds like he would be some sort of wheeler dealer ...


Fuck off, he's no wheeler dealer, he's a football manager! (Storms off in huff)
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:09 pm

mcfctm wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.


I disagree. We needed Milner, a versatile player who could get forward when playing in the middle (unlike barry and de jong) and also when wide can cross (unlike swp) however i don't understand how VdV is different to modric or krankjar.

What you disagreeing with mate, I didn't say Milner wasn't needed, I simply said that other clubs asked the question.

I think Ted answered the other question.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:10 pm

Anyway, has 'Arry got his 'Ford Capri' yet?
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:18 pm

No need to answer, vdV deal goes through and he is now a Spurs player.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby Dameerto » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:30 pm

[strike]Arthur Daily[/strike] Twitchy claims a 'computer glitch' led to a delay submitting paperwork (according to Sky News) - but fek off he's no wheeler dealer.
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Re: Redknapp hopeful on Rafael

Postby mcfctm » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:33 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
mcfctm wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Why people are asking why Spurs want VdV is like other clubs asking why we wanted Milner, and the answer is to give them a better squad. People seem to think we are the only ones who want to build a suqd of talented players and get our project on the road, but the truth is Spurs are well ahead of us with regard to both. Remember back in around 2006 when they signed that bloke as DoF, and then he started bringing in players such as Darren Bent? Well, that seemed to be the start of their project and although the DoF was out on his ear with Ramos, they still have a similar sort of system to us - if a quality player is available, then they'll be interested, especially at a decent price. Combine their playing squad, current position in CL and with new stadium on the way, you could actually say we are trying to emulate them, but just on a grander scale.


I disagree. We needed Milner, a versatile player who could get forward when playing in the middle (unlike barry and de jong) and also when wide can cross (unlike swp) however i don't understand how VdV is different to modric or krankjar.

What you disagreeing with mate, I didn't say Milner wasn't needed, I simply said that other clubs asked the question.

I think Ted answered the other question.


Yeh Ted's post about Harry's stupid transfer policy is correct, just shows how much of a knob redknapp is!
As for milner my point was that we needed a player like him not just to improve the squad but to add something that we didn't already have.
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