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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby Mase » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:04 pm

Elvistheblue wrote:
I think that's the interesting thing with this. Everyone sat around me was quick to jump on Kolo toure's back after the Blackburn goal, and I think that is down to the fact that Hart is seen as the blue eyed boy who can do no wrong, yet Toure is still seen by many as a waste of space. There are alot of fans that haven't really taken to Toure, and maybe justifiably so as last season he didn't have a great season but I think there are factors to that and this season he has been playing much better. It's easy to blame Toure in this situation, but i really do think that Hart was at fault on this occasion.


Think it might be to do with the fact he had to be dragged back on the pitch (as club captain) by Silvinho at the end of the last home game of the season last year to clap the fans that had waited.
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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby bluej » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:55 pm

[quote="MaseCTIDThe people saying 'well if a gk comes that far out he's got to go through everyone and claim it' can I ask how is that different from a defender going for something and ducking out of the way when no one has shouted for it? Surely they should go through everyone and claim it too?? Would John Terry have ducked away from the ball or would he have put his ugly head in there?[/quote]

That will reassure Hart following the mix-up with Kolo Touré that led to Nikola Kalinic opening the scoring for Blackburn on Saturday. "I haven't said anything to him about it," Mancini said. "Joe called for the ball and that's why Kolo didn't play it. It was a gift for Blackburn but this hasn't changed my belief in him.
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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby Mase » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:02 pm

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MaseCTID wrote:The people saying 'well if a gk comes that far out he's got to go through everyone and claim it' can I ask how is that different from a defender going for something and ducking out of the way when no one has shouted for it? Surely they should go through everyone and claim it too?? Would John Terry have ducked away from the ball or would he have put his ugly head in there?


That will reassure Hart following the mix-up with Kolo Touré that led to Nikola Kalinic opening the scoring for Blackburn on Saturday. "I haven't said anything to him about it," Mancini said. "Joe called for the ball and that's why Kolo didn't play it. It was a gift for Blackburn but this hasn't changed my belief in him.


If Hart shouted for it, which he hasn't admited to himself, then it was his fault obviously. The original post didn't have anything in about Hart shouting for it. To be fair, when I was sat at the match I didn't see Hart shout for it himself. But if the boss says he did then so be it.
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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby bluej » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:40 pm

MaseCTID wrote:
bluej wrote:
MaseCTID wrote:The people saying 'well if a gk comes that far out he's got to go through everyone and claim it' can I ask how is that different from a defender going for something and ducking out of the way when no one has shouted for it? Surely they should go through everyone and claim it too?? Would John Terry have ducked away from the ball or would he have put his ugly head in there?


That will reassure Hart following the mix-up with Kolo Touré that led to Nikola Kalinic opening the scoring for Blackburn on Saturday. "I haven't said anything to him about it," Mancini said. "Joe called for the ball and that's why Kolo didn't play it. It was a gift for Blackburn but this hasn't changed my belief in him.


If Hart shouted for it, which he hasn't admited to himself, then it was his fault obviously. The original post didn't have anything in about Hart shouting for it. To be fair, when I was sat at the match I didn't see Hart shout for it himself. But if the boss says he did then so be it.


Yeah it appears so, I took that from another thread. I just don't think Toure would have left it if Hart hadn't have shouted.
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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby Slim » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:40 pm

Hart came for it, Kolo was going to clear it. Got the call from his keeper and rather than have a collision that would gift them a goal, he moved away to receive the ball. I can't see what he did wrong when an arrogant as fuck keeper came 25 yards off his line to claim a ball he didn't have a hope in getting and completely fucked it. Blaming Kolo here is looking for reasons to slam the current booboy, we can only hope that Richards has a bad game soon in order to give Kolo a break.
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Re: Hart accepts blame

Postby Dameerto » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:07 pm

Slim wrote:Hart came for it, Kolo was going to clear it. Got the call from his keeper and rather than have a collision that would gift them a goal, he moved away to receive the ball. I can't see what he did wrong when an arrogant as fuck keeper came 25 yards off his line to claim a ball he didn't have a hope in getting and completely fucked it. Blaming Kolo here is looking for reasons to slam the current booboy, we can only hope that Richards has a bad game soon in order to give Kolo a break.


Exactly as I thought it happened watching on TV, you could see Kolo sizing up the ball, then take dliberate evasive action - if Hart didn't shout for it I'll eat my keyboard.
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