coincidence or bolloks? you decide.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

Wha wha wha whaaaaaa

[guv111]

I was saying something must be profoundly wrong with his methods yesterday on here (I actually wondered if he was getting fitness tips from David Moyes). Most of the injuries we appear to have don't seem to be match-related, so something is clearly amiss. Why else would we only have "13 fit players" from a squad of 25 on Wednesday? It's September, not the end of a long, hard winter.

[Crossie]

Double training session are still only 2 hours, big fucking deal.

If you take away the players we know were injured in games, then from what we've heard via Doug, the only injuries seem to come from over zealous tackling in the training matches, accidents that happen at all clubs. Most causing hobbles or quick bit of magic sponge and get back into the action.

In a month, everyone will be back, and this will all be forgotten about.

Mancini is no dumb cunt, he wont over train players, especially now when we are struggling a little for fit players.

[Manx Blue]

Bellers can't say anything against the club because of his loan agreement, so gets his patsy to do it for him.

[Manx Blue]

PS...can a Geordie accent be used for the thread title to give it a bit of edge ? ;)

[Ted Hughes]

May as well stick this on the Bellamy Bullshit Bandwaggon & roll it on, perhaps one day it'll seem believeable to those who find it easier to accept than the alternative; that he was sacked purely because Mancini doesn't want him.

Back in the real world; I don't think either fitness training method can claim to be perfect. Hughes only had a decimated team available for the notorious game v Spurs & was hardly ever able to name a settled back 4. Barry was clearly carrying an injury all season. It clearly wasn't a bed of roses last season.

Mancini has lost players to internationals & post World Cup syndrome. Only if he continues to have too many players breaking down all through the season can anyone start to assume there could be any truth in this, anything else is unfair. Some of the players have not even reached match fitness yet due to non-City related problems.

[brite blu sky]

Carl you fucking wind up merchant. Wobble your head.

Cheers

How am I winding anyone up you fuckign daft petrol !!..its a guardian piece not a sun article and it was worth posting.

we are all pissed after the loss, but yr just hearing what you want to hear in this piece CARL. it's nothing. some assclown consultant who got run out of town by Mancini, prollee cuz he was expensive and full of shit, is airing some garbage. i think highly of the Guardian, but this is a nonstory imho. i can't believe you think otherwise.

also, i didn't say it wasn't worth posting. what i said was that i'm shocked you'd give it credence.

cheers

Doomy pal.. you need to review that sentiment, i am firmly on the left side of the P spectrum, but our friends at the Guardian are some of the most biased and twisted journos ever and thats just in general, in football they have a serious agenda against City that is at Editorial level and comes out right across the board of their reporting.
Wise up my man.

That goes for Carl too if you think anything in the Guardian somehow gives something creedence. They are a bunch of bitter c*nts.

[john68]

By sheer coincidence, I was having a chat about this subject yesterday with a mate of mine who has his coaching badges. Not just about City or football but I think it includes all sportsmen who are the very top end.

I wondered if it could have been caused (paradoxically) by the significant advances in sports science over the last few years. My theory was that, years ago, top athletes who we thought were fit , weren't really anywhere near their physical potential by todays standards. Meaning that the mechanics of the body still had a margin of unused potential before breaking down.

Today, the advances in sports science mean that fitness coaches in all sportsd are able to get athletes' bodies to operate at a much higher level, nearer to the body's limits, leaving little or no margin of safety before the limit is passed and the body breaks down.

Maybe, like a car engine tuned up to its limit and then driven hard for a long distance, giving a great performance but always in danger of breaking down.

I don't suppose for one minute that Bellers had anything to do with this, he's just being used as an example by someone with something to say and the media are doing what they love to do and playing the "blame game," It seems these days, it always has to be someone's fault.

[The Man In Blue]

ex employee in "my old boss is shit" shocker.

well you cant use the fucking daily mail bollocks this time around can ya !!

It may well be bollocks......but the fact is we do have loads of injuries.

true.

however the guardian have their fair share of journo's who dont like us. in the last year or so, the spin they put on their stories has become increasingly negative as far as we are concerned.

fuck them.

[Ted Hughes]

By sheer coincidence, I was having a chat about this subject yesterday with a mate of mine who has his coaching badges. Not just about City or football but I think it includes all sportsmen who are the very top end.

I wondered if it could have been caused (paradoxically) by the significant advances in sports science over the last few years. My theory was that, years ago, top athletes who we thought were fit , weren't really anywhere near their physical potential by todays standards. Meaning that the mechanics of the body still had a margin of unused potential before breaking down.

Today, the advances in sports science mean that fitness coaches in all sportsd are able to get athletes' bodies to operate at a much higher level, nearer to the body's limits, leaving little or no margin of safety before the limit is passed and the body breaks down.

Maybe, like a car engine tuned up to its limit and then driven hard for a long distance, giving a great performance but always in danger of breaking down.

I don't suppose for one minute that Bellers had anything to do with this, he's just being used as an example by someone with something to say and the media are doing what they love to do and playing the "blame game," It seems these days, it always has to be someone's fault.

I think you're right. Trevor Francis was a typical, highly tuned, modern day player ahead of his time, who was always injured playing in a harder game against less tuned but tougher players, often on dodgy pitches. Now they are fitter, faster, play on much better pitches & are much better protected by refs but are vulnerable to injuries from almost nothing. Don't think many modern day players could stand up to the wear & tear of the 'old days' with the different kind of fitness they have now.

[DoomMerchant]

Carl you fucking wind up merchant. Wobble your head.

Cheers

How am I winding anyone up you fuckign daft petrol !!..its a guardian piece not a sun article and it was worth posting.

we are all pissed after the loss, but yr just hearing what you want to hear in this piece CARL. it's nothing. some assclown consultant who got run out of town by Mancini, prollee cuz he was expensive and full of shit, is airing some garbage. i think highly of the Guardian, but this is a nonstory imho. i can't believe you think otherwise.

also, i didn't say it wasn't worth posting. what i said was that i'm shocked you'd give it credence.

cheers

Doomy pal.. you need to review that sentiment, i am firmly on the left side of the P spectrum, but our friends at the Guardian are some of the most biased and twisted journos ever and thats just in general, in football they have a serious agenda against City that is at Editorial level and comes out right across the board of their reporting.
Wise up my man.

That goes for Carl too if you think anything in the Guardian somehow gives something creedence. They are a bunch of bitter c*nts.

what i meant by credence is that i respect the journalistic integrity of the Guardian. That being said, I don't read it for footy news. Regardless, i think you understand the point i'm making. it's the same as Carl's. It's not the sun or the mirror, etc.

By creedence, did you mean...this?

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[patrickblue]

By sheer coincidence, I was having a chat about this subject yesterday with a mate of mine who has his coaching badges. Not just about City or football but I think it includes all sportsmen who are the very top end.

I wondered if it could have been caused (paradoxically) by the significant advances in sports science over the last few years. My theory was that, years ago, top athletes who we thought were fit , weren't really anywhere near their physical potential by todays standards. Meaning that the mechanics of the body still had a margin of unused potential before breaking down.

Today, the advances in sports science mean that fitness coaches in all sportsd are able to get athletes' bodies to operate at a much higher level, nearer to the body's limits, leaving little or no margin of safety before the limit is passed and the body breaks down.

Maybe, like a car engine tuned up to its limit and then driven hard for a long distance, giving a great performance but always in danger of breaking down.

I don't suppose for one minute that Bellers had anything to do with this, he's just being used as an example by someone with something to say and the media are doing what they love to do and playing the "blame game," It seems these days, it always has to be someone's fault.

Agree with that 100% John. Couple of things spring to mind. Wasn't Hughes accused of over/bad training on more than one occasion.
And in support of what you've said John, the coach most famous for intense physical training was Malcolm Alison. That team never suffered from training injuries.
I also think theres some sour grapes being aired here.

[mcfctm]

May as well stick this on the Bellamy Bullshit Bandwaggon & roll it on, perhaps one day it'll seem believeable to those who find it easier to accept than the alternative; that he was sacked purely because Mancini doesn't want him.

Back in the real world; I don't think either fitness training method can claim to be perfect. Hughes only had a decimated team available for the notorious game v Spurs & was hardly ever able to name a settled back 4. Barry was clearly carrying an injury all season. It clearly wasn't a bed of roses last season.

Mancini has lost players to internationals & post World Cup syndrome. Only if he continues to have too many players breaking down all through the season can anyone start to assume there could be any truth in this, anything else is unfair. Some of the players have not even reached match fitness yet due to non-City related problems.

This is pretty much spot on. I'd like to add that its an article on city so it's not going to be positive is it!