The ***OFFICIAL*** I Love Mancini Thread.

[Patrick]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

[Slim]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

4th in the perm?????

I shave my head and I am 4th in line for a perm I don't need? And you think there is no reason to be upset....

[sandman]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

My worry is that the hunger for success and the money fuelling it has gone to some posters heads. Those who are trying to remain calm and level headed and looking at what little this means in the grand scheme of things are being called arrogant by those who only have trophies on the mind? So who are the ones becoming more like rags? The ones staying behind the club despite bad times or the glory hunters?

[The Man In Blue]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

My worry is that the hunger for success and the money fuelling it has gone to some posters heads. Those who are trying to remain calm and level headed and looking at what little this means in the grand scheme of things are being called arrogant by those who only have trophies on the mind? So who are the ones becoming more like rags? The ones staying behind the club despite bad times or the glory hunters?

but it's cutting both ways - you yourself are accusing people of not being behind the club/being glory hunters for getting pissed off at last night's result. who the fuck would bother posting on here if they were not blues? (or walmai)

right now last night has only one label - a gamble. trying to dress it up otherwise at this point is pure conjecture.

for the record mate, i really fucking hope you are right. time will tell.

[sandman]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

My worry is that the hunger for success and the money fuelling it has gone to some posters heads. Those who are trying to remain calm and level headed and looking at what little this means in the grand scheme of things are being called arrogant by those who only have trophies on the mind? So who are the ones becoming more like rags? The ones staying behind the club despite bad times or the glory hunters?

but it's cutting both ways - you yourself are accusing people of not being behind the club/being glory hunters for getting pissed off at last night's result. who the fuck would bother posting on here if they were not blues? (or walmai)

right now last night has only one label - a gamble. trying to dress it up otherwise at this point is pure conjecture.

for the record mate, i really fucking hope you are right. time will tell.

Even if i'm not, like you said it was a gamble, one that Mancini felt he had to make, he has the good of the club at heart, we all have the same ambitions, I guess nights like last nights will just make the real trophies feel even better come may.

[brite blu sky]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

It is expected that people vent off, but it does make you wonder sometimes when we get 400 sign in when we lose to just slag all and sundry and then each other.

Personally it bugs me when en masse the results brigade steam in feet first without any consideration of reasoning.. but then thats life, shouting and bawling like a kid before you know anything of the circumstances that brought about what you didnt want.

he ho.

[the_georgian_genius]

We are turning into a right arrogant set of wankers. I thought it would happen if we started winning things but when we've won fuck all? Amazing.

Got to agree.

We treat League Cup like we have bigger fish to fry when in reality this and UEFA Cup are/were our only realistic chances of winning things.

I understand all the money blah blah blah arguments but I would've taken League Cup over top 4 finish any day of the week.

So would i but the sheik wouldn't. And that is who makes the decisions to hire and fire managers and not us.

[The Man In Blue]

Personally it bugs me when en masse the results brigade steam in feet first without any consideration of reasoning.. but then thats life, shouting and bawling like a kid before you know anything of the circumstances that brought about what you didnt want.

could you be any more patronising? "results brigade" - could you explain this term please? i may be mistaken but i thought results - in competitive matches - were pretty important to a football club?

christ on a bike some risible shit gets posted on here sometimes.

[brite blu sky]

Personally it bugs me when en masse the results brigade steam in feet first without any consideration of reasoning.. but then thats life, shouting and bawling like a kid before you know anything of the circumstances that brought about what you didnt want.

could you be any more patronising? "results brigade" - could you explain this term please? am i a result-licker for not being happy about last night?

christ on a bike some risible shit gets posted on here sometimes.

Dont know if i can be more patronising than that, i work on it.. Explain it yeah no problem, personally it bugs me when people go ott at things when they havent taken into account any reasons for their disappointment. This isnt aimed at you or even this forum, it happens just as much in real life.. and it bugs me.
In terms of football sometimes it is justified i know.. but sometimes when there are fairly obvious circumstances or excuses as some would have it then it just gets me. results brigade is the type of fan that didn't even see the game but then gets completely ott about the result only... hence they are not even interested in the circumstances of the game eg shit ref and only look to the results.

It was a generalised comment and not in response to last night game by the way, in case you thought it was.

im sure some stuff bugs you..

[carl_feedthegoat]

Mancini has spent over 300 million and has us playing boring football more often than not........He has dissapointed us more times than I care to remember and has proved absolutly FUCKALL to us that he is the right manager thus far..............and theres a fucking thread on "I love Mancini"

You couldnt make it up.

[The Man In Blue]

Dont know if i can be more patronising than that, i work on it.. Explain it yeah no problem, personally it bugs me when people go ott at things when they havent taken into account any reasons for their disappointment. This isnt aimed at you or even this forum, it happens just as much in real life.. and it bugs me.
In terms of football sometimes it is justified i know.. but sometimes when there are fairly obvious circumstances or excuses as some would have it then it just gets me. results brigade is the type of fan that didn't even see the game but then gets completely ott about the result only... hence they are not even interested in the circumstances of the game eg shit ref and only look to the results.

It was a generalised comment and not in response to last night game by the way, in case you thought it was.

im sure some stuff bugs you..

ok.

what bugs me in relation to our shared interest is city losing games. whether or not people are looking at the "bigger picture" every blue has a right to feel pissed off and disappointed at last night. Last years run is the closest thousands and thousands of blues of the younger generations have come to the elusive trophy, and seeing the chance to go one better snatched away from us last night was upsetting. and it is still upsetting no matter how much logic i bring to bear upon it.

come the end of the season we may have loads to shout about and no cunt will remember yesterday evening nor the debate on here today. we could just as easily fall flat on our faces again and be left ruing the gamble we took last night. none of us have any way of knowing for sure but when the weight of your life experience leans on one side which feeling will win out? optimism or pessimism?

jam tomorrow means we are still starving right now.

[Beefymcfc]

Notwithstanding the fact that I am (as noted elsewhere) not totally devastated about being out (I didn't enjoy going out mind you) I have to say that anyone who can claim to "love Mancini" to date needs their fucking head testing

I quite like him as a bloke, I'm happy to give him time to get it right but fuck me it's more about liking having a suave italian manager and a heavy dose of baseless optimism (oh....and the backing of the sheikh!) that is keeping me positive.

I was more than happy to see the likes of Boyata, Ibrahim and Guidetti out there last night but fuck me what was the silly italian cunt doing with the rest of the defence.

Javan Vidal??? Since when has he been anywhere close??? And Cunningham, why doesn't he go to join his mates at Villa....he's 100% not good enough. Mee......well unfortunately the same is probably true of him.

However, notwithstanding the potential lack of quality of any of the above three players....to field them all together against a fairly seasoned (PL) team, even a weakened one was poor management.

Last night Mancini failed us the fans, failed the club and he failed those young lads

I had to come back to this one Ant because it's such a good post that sums up my thoughts exactly. A gamble is fair enough, but at least minimise the risk. There were a lot of deflated people out there last night, including the lads we should be trying to protect; we're not Arsenal youth who have been playing the Wenger way since year dot, we are a team in progress who are just setting off on the route to hopefully making the top. The lads last night were left like sitting ducks with the likes of PV, RSC and Jo to bring them on, players who are too busy with their own issues to bother with the rest.

Mancini didn't just let everyone down, he also hung the kids out to dry!

[brite blu sky]

Dont know if i can be more patronising than that, i work on it.. Explain it yeah no problem, personally it bugs me when people go ott at things when they havent taken into account any reasons for their disappointment. This isnt aimed at you or even this forum, it happens just as much in real life.. and it bugs me.
In terms of football sometimes it is justified i know.. but sometimes when there are fairly obvious circumstances or excuses as some would have it then it just gets me. results brigade is the type of fan that didn't even see the game but then gets completely ott about the result only... hence they are not even interested in the circumstances of the game eg shit ref and only look to the results.

It was a generalised comment and not in response to last night game by the way, in case you thought it was.

im sure some stuff bugs you..

ok.

what bugs me in relation to our shared interest is city losing games. whether or not people are looking at the "bigger picture" every blue has a right to feel pissed off and disappointed at last night. Last years run is the closest thousands and thousands of blues of the younger generations have come to the elusive trophy, and seeing the chance to go one better snatched away from us last night was upsetting. and it is still upsetting no matter how much logic i bring to bear upon it.

come the end of the season we may have loads to shout about and no cunt will remember yesterday evening nor the debate on here today. we could just as easily fall flat on our faces again and be left ruing the gamble we took last night. none of us have any way of knowing for sure but when the weight of your life experience leans on one side which feeling will win out? optimism or pessimism?

jam tomorrow means we are still starving right now.

yeah it is shit losing games.. especially games as a fan you have decided this is the one. Everyone deals with it in diff ways.. like were gonna lose anyway before the ball is kicked.. just to save themselves the potential disappointment later. Each to their own i suppose. Personally i dont do that very often at all. After years and years of disappointment with City there is a fuclin massive built up tension in all blues imo, me included. And it will only come out on that great and glorious day to come.

What i do see though as lots have pointed out, the club is on a trajectory and though it is all promise i cant help but be on its side and influenced by it.. its coming and im caught up in the optimism of that.. yes each time we get punched in the face by Stoke, Spurs the filthy rags and circumstances that led to last nights disappointment.. it just adds to the reservoir of stuff that is going to get released when the time eventually arrives.. maybe it is like being punch drunk you just dont feel it anymore after years and years years. That isnt reason to be pessimistic though.. dont ask me why, i just know it isnt. Fatal optimism ? could be, but i dont care.

Again personally im not just waiting for us to bag a trophy.. im waiting for us to take the title and im waiting for us to take the rags and teams like Chelsea to the fuclin cleaners in style on the way to doing it.

Losing is painful, losing by pure bad luck is frustrating, not performing is very very frustrating, performing and not winning is annoying, winning on a bad hair day is admirable, winning ugly is good, winning in style is fantastic, winning in style while sticking the finger up to the established order is white out!

white out is what i want and until that comes i will take any loss on the chin.

[DoomMerchant]

It's an odd today, reminds me a lot of the Hughes days

People calling Mancini a cunt, people asking for his head and those who say yesterday wasn't important are accused of arrogance and not loving city as much, even being rags

Were 4th in the perm, we have a season ahead of us that could be wonderful, chill for fucls sake

you don't think at some level it feels like a golden opportunity pissed away Patrick?

i can listen to the arguments about injuries all day long, but there is a 75% chance we are going to lose, even at home, to a fantastic Chelsea team. Winning teams fuel winning by starting to win some things together. Crawl. Walk. Run. for me...the carling cup would have been a great place to forge that winning mentality, break the streak and get some fantastic feelings moving towards bigger and better silverware.

i'm not over the top in my angst -- though i did jokingly call him a daego cunt -- but i think Mancini is starting to show himself as someone who is incredibly risky in his conservativism. Some might say typically Italian, but i think he took some risks last night that really backfired, and yes, asking some players to play 3 "important" matches in a week would have been risky as well, but i think the benefits to pushing through to the next round of the milk cup would have outweighed what the likely outcome of the weekend is going to be. Hope i'm wrong, and we tonk Chelsea and really make a statement.

cheers

[Dubaimancityfan]

Everyone is reading way too much into this, but after a disappointing defeat that is not surprising.

TBH, just look at the circumstances. Three 1st team defenders fit.. needed for Sat at 12.45. So in go a whole back line of kids with only Boyata as one whos any good at present development. We lost the game cos those defenders switched off at the wrong time and the late subs couldn't rescue the game. end of.

Now how that gets turned into a massive debate about glory hunters, arrogance, manager out etc etc etc... is beyond me.

Just to back up the point again.. If we had Wolves at home on Sat afternoon or evening, then Bob could have played Vinnie and/or deJong and Albion wouldn't have had even a sniff in the whole 90 mins.

Very sensible Blu.
I don't think it has anything to do with the League Cup being a Mickey Mouse cup or not. With all the injuries in the sqaud and the Chelsea match on Saturday, Mancini had to play the hand he was dealt. No more no less.
We are talking today about fielding either Barry, SWP or Milner in defence on Saturday as we only have 3 fit defenders ! And still some people are saying Kolo and Komp should have played !
Look at what happened at Chelsea. They lost 2 main players to long term injuries and still they lost and at home at that.
Yes, we conceded 2 goals and I think Given should be asked about both, but we had enough quality in midfield and attack to score more goals against a weakened WBA side but it didn't happen. We had AJ for the full 90 minutes and Milner for 30 minutes but they did almost nothing. I would have thought that Mancini expected much more from these 2 and also from Silve (whom I must say should have been put in earlier) but in the end, they were dissappointing.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We are turning into a right arrogant set of wankers. I thought it would happen if we started winning things but when we've won fuck all? Amazing.

Got to agree.

We treat League Cup like we have bigger fish to fry when in reality this and UEFA Cup are/were our only realistic chances of winning things.

I understand all the money blah blah blah arguments but I would've taken League Cup over top 4 finish any day of the week.

Im not picking this out for any other reason than it has been stated a lot in various ways, but you put it very clearly NQDP. My question is very simple for those that think similarly...

Do you think that the Club, Manager and Players think like this ? ( CC over top 4 )

probably not. All players seem to be talking about is Champion's League and many supporters treat it as some sort of promised land. For me CL is the REAL mickey Mouse competition.

Which brings us to one question again, who are they doing it for? They are (should be) doing it for supporters. And if supporters want to see us give League Cup at least some sort of go, then they should do it.

But like I said, I didn't see this game so I'm also not in position to comment whether we were dead unlucky to go out or did we deserve what we got.

[Ted Hughes]

We are turning into a right arrogant set of wankers. I thought it would happen if we started winning things but when we've won fuck all? Amazing.

Got to agree.

We treat League Cup like we have bigger fish to fry when in reality this and UEFA Cup are/were our only realistic chances of winning things.

I understand all the money blah blah blah arguments but I would've taken League Cup over top 4 finish any day of the week.

Im not picking this out for any other reason than it has been stated a lot in various ways, but you put it very clearly NQDP. My question is very simple for those that think similarly...

Do you think that the Club, Manager and Players think like this ? ( CC over top 4 )

probably not. All players seem to be talking about is Champion's League and many supporters treat it as some sort of promised land. For me CL is the REAL mickey Mouse competition.

Which brings us to one question again, who are they doing it for? They are (should be) doing it for supporters. And if supporters want to see us give League Cup at least some sort of go, then they should do it.

But like I said, I didn't see this game so I'm also not in position to comment whether we were dead unlucky to go out or did we deserve what we got.

I didn't see it either but I think, as Shay was our best player, you can take it we deserved to go out!

I want a trophy but I would still rather have 4th place IF I HAD THE CHOICE. The problem with it imo is that we didn't sacrifice the League Cup for a definite 4th place, or a definite FA Cup or Euro final, we sacrificed it IN CASE a player or two got injured/tired & the POSSIBILITY that could have an effect on the outcome of the Chelsea game which would make a difference of 3 POINTS.

We sacrificed a whole competition because a player may get injured. For all we know, if it happened, his replacement could have been the top player in the Chelsea game, or scored the winner, as sometimes happens.

I don't love Mancini but I do back him & probably will love him when he gets us a trophy. I do think he's dropping some right bollocks though & at times, making a bit of a cunt out of himself. I won't want him sacked if we lose to Chelsea & Juve but I won't be very fucking pleased with him & winning those games won't wash away the frustration, it'll grating be with me all season as I thought we'd win that cup. Some cunt like Ireland will be in the final, just watch.

[Original Dub]

I am amazed that so many people are so desperate for mediocre silverware that they are happy to jeapordise the league, the higher we finish the more credibility we receive (Champions League), then the better players we attract and the better we become.

I just feel as if people on this board have stopped caring about improving over the long term and are totally obsessed with silverware, then those of us who can be patient and support the clubs decisions when they are forced to make a small sacrifice (Carling Cup) for the bigger picture are now being called arrogant and as bad a rags? Who are the ones really as bad as rags? I'd rather see better football week in week out than have a shiney pot to talk about to my Munich friends while they poke fun at us still being in the Europa league.

What the fuck, on God's Holy Earth, gave you the impression that it was a CHOICE between 4th place or the Carling Cup?!!

Cast your mind back to 2006, when the rags hadn't won the league for a few years... Baconface said he truely believed that the league cup win spurred them on to greater things purely because it gave them back that winning mentality. In the modern game we have never even had that "winning mentality" and you think for some reason that getting knocked out at the first hurdle of the most realistic competition that we can win is a "positive" thing?

Either you're on a wind up or need counselling mate.

[sandman]

I am amazed that so many people are so desperate for mediocre silverware that they are happy to jeapordise the league, the higher we finish the more credibility we receive (Champions League), then the better players we attract and the better we become.

I just feel as if people on this board have stopped caring about improving over the long term and are totally obsessed with silverware, then those of us who can be patient and support the clubs decisions when they are forced to make a small sacrifice (Carling Cup) for the bigger picture are now being called arrogant and as bad a rags? Who are the ones really as bad as rags? I'd rather see better football week in week out than have a shiney pot to talk about to my Munich friends while they poke fun at us still being in the Europa league.

What the fuck, on God's Holy Earth, gave you the impression that it was a CHOICE between 4th place or the Carling Cup?!!

Cast your mind back to 2006, when the rags hadn't won the league for a few years... Baconface said he truely believed that the league cup win spurred them on to greater things purely because it gave them back that winning mentality. In the modern game we have never even had that "winning mentality" and you think for some reason that getting knocked out at the first hurdle of the most realistic competition that we can win is a "positive" thing?

Either you're on a wind up or need counselling mate.

Well last year we wasted time and effort on the CC and missed out on 4th place. I never said it was choice between, I said less games gives us more chance in the league.

I dont see why people seem to think that because I am not a silver obsessed glory hunting cunt that I need counselling, I just want to see the club improve and finish as high in the Premiership as possible, that is the most important competition we have available, I would also like to see the FA Cup coming our way as it is a credible trophy but if I had the choice I would still choose higher in the league every day of the week.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.