The ***OFFICIAL*** I Love Mancini Thread.

[sandman]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.

I think the money and media attention has changed people on here, we are all desperate for a trophy but I feel that the fans are now divided. There are those who are so desperate to see a pot they are happy to see the club jeapordise something bigger and those who would rather be patient, finish higher and attract a higher class of player and blow everyone out of the water next year?

We have a brilliant squad, very capable of winning something, its not nearly perfect though, a few minor adjustments and additions and I believe City will be phenominal. Plus if we are competing in the champions league next year with our better squad we'll have a great chance of going all the way first time.

[Original Dub]

I am amazed that so many people are so desperate for mediocre silverware that they are happy to jeapordise the league, the higher we finish the more credibility we receive (Champions League), then the better players we attract and the better we become.

I just feel as if people on this board have stopped caring about improving over the long term and are totally obsessed with silverware, then those of us who can be patient and support the clubs decisions when they are forced to make a small sacrifice (Carling Cup) for the bigger picture are now being called arrogant and as bad a rags? Who are the ones really as bad as rags? I'd rather see better football week in week out than have a shiney pot to talk about to my Munich friends while they poke fun at us still being in the Europa league.

What the fuck, on God's Holy Earth, gave you the impression that it was a CHOICE between 4th place or the Carling Cup?!!

Cast your mind back to 2006, when the rags hadn't won the league for a few years... Baconface said he truely believed that the league cup win spurred them on to greater things purely because it gave them back that winning mentality. In the modern game we have never even had that "winning mentality" and you think for some reason that getting knocked out at the first hurdle of the most realistic competition that we can win is a "positive" thing?

Either you're on a wind up or need counselling mate.

Well last year we wasted time and effort on the CC and missed out on 4th place. I never said it was choice between, I said less games gives us more chance in the league.

I dont see why people seem to think that because I am not a silver obsessed glory hunting cunt that I need counselling, I just want to see the club improve and finish as high in the Premiership as possible, that is the most important competition we have available, I would also like to see the FA Cup coming our way as it is a credible trophy but if I had the choice I would still choose higher in the league every day of the week.

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[sandman]

I am amazed that so many people are so desperate for mediocre silverware that they are happy to jeapordise the league, the higher we finish the more credibility we receive (Champions League), then the better players we attract and the better we become.

I just feel as if people on this board have stopped caring about improving over the long term and are totally obsessed with silverware, then those of us who can be patient and support the clubs decisions when they are forced to make a small sacrifice (Carling Cup) for the bigger picture are now being called arrogant and as bad a rags? Who are the ones really as bad as rags? I'd rather see better football week in week out than have a shiney pot to talk about to my Munich friends while they poke fun at us still being in the Europa league.

What the fuck, on God's Holy Earth, gave you the impression that it was a CHOICE between 4th place or the Carling Cup?!!

Cast your mind back to 2006, when the rags hadn't won the league for a few years... Baconface said he truely believed that the league cup win spurred them on to greater things purely because it gave them back that winning mentality. In the modern game we have never even had that "winning mentality" and you think for some reason that getting knocked out at the first hurdle of the most realistic competition that we can win is a "positive" thing?

Either you're on a wind up or need counselling mate.

Well last year we wasted time and effort on the CC and missed out on 4th place. I never said it was choice between, I said less games gives us more chance in the league.

I dont see why people seem to think that because I am not a silver obsessed glory hunting cunt that I need counselling, I just want to see the club improve and finish as high in the Premiership as possible, that is the most important competition we have available, I would also like to see the FA Cup coming our way as it is a credible trophy but if I had the choice I would still choose higher in the league every day of the week.

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Read it again, I never said it was a choice, I said it would give us more chance, but I did say if I had the choice.

[Original Dub]

Only pulling your leg mate...

The simple fact is that winning silverware is what will spur this club on to becoming great. I gave you the rags example but it didn't seem to wash with you.

We crave silverware because we have been starved of it. Calling us glory hunters for that reason is IMO like calling Ethiopians a bunch of hungry cunts for wanting soup instead of holding out for a fillet steak, medium rare with a sprinkling of pepper sauce, when in fact the soup is a welcome starter.

NB No offence was meant to any ethiopians, nor was any ethiopian harmed in the making of this post.

[sandman]

Only pulling your leg mate...

The simple fact is that winning silverware is what will spur this club on to becoming great. I gave you the rags example but it didn't seem to wash with you.

We crave silverware because we have been starved of it. Calling us glory hunters for that reason is IMO like calling Ethiopians a bunch of hungry cunts for wanting soup instead of holding out for a fillet steak, medium rare with a sprinkling of pepper sauce, when in fact the soup is a welcome starter.

NB No offence was meant to any ethiopians, nor was any ethiopian harmed in the making of this post.

I completely understand where everyone is coming from, I would like to see city winning the carling cup, but only as an extra. I guess I have an obsession with the Premier League, but thats because it is the biggest and best trophy in world football in my opinion (and I do include the champions league and world cup in that)

[brite blu sky]

There is a clear idea that after so very fuclin long and with the changes that have taken place over the last couple of years that now is the time we see some results, there is some seriously heavy investment of hope by all City fans of all persuasions this season and the loss of the CC opportunity is to put it mildly gone down like a lead balloon.

However if it had not been for the circumstances of both the injured and the massive game on Sat lunchtime we all know we would not be in this situation. It is the circumstances that dealt us a tough hand and we lost out to it. Its hard its tough but thats it.

All this about CC is 3rd rate, Mancini should have done this or that is just covering up your own disappointment in some way. Get over it, for better or worse its gone. Chelsea roll into town in less than 24 hours time and City have the opportunity to put the first chinks in their supposed heavy armor and slap a huge question mark over their unstoppable walk to the title, while at the same time getting ourselves back into the race for the fucling title. Yes the title.. that idea a lot of you apparently gave up on after only two games.

If anyone is so pissed off about what has happened then do whatever you have to, beg steal, borrow to get yourself inside coms and take your frustration and anger out on that lanky streak J. Terry and the clowns he brings with him for 90 +4


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[Beefymcfc]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.

I think the money and media attention has changed people on here, we are all desperate for a trophy but I feel that the fans are now divided. There are those who are so desperate to see a pot they are happy to see the club jeapordise something bigger and those who would rather be patient, finish higher and attract a higher class of player and blow everyone out of the water next year?

We have a brilliant squad, very capable of winning something, its not nearly perfect though, a few minor adjustments and additions and I believe City will be phenominal. Plus if we are competing in the champions league next year with our better squad we'll have a great chance of going all the way first time.

On the highlighted, you can speak for yourself pal. As for the rest, is it really worth going on about next year, the year after that and so on. Most folk have been waiting in hope for many years already, and will continue to do so because that's the way they've been brought up with City. The truth is now that that hope has turned into belief with all the money that is being injected into the club, and some, yes some, would like to see some sort of return and the way that happens is by seeing success on the pitch whether it's in the League or a Cup run. One of those is now out the window, but what happens when the other cup games come around and there's another big game at weekend, do we send the kids out again and where are we drawing the line?

For me, Mancio hasn't done anything to prove to me that he can win any cup, never mind the league. He had it within his grasp to get into the Champs League last year and blew it against our direct rivals. His form of game doesn't exactly fill me with expectation on match days and his tactical changes leave something to be desired.

So, to your ***Official - I Love Mancini*** thread, I'd like to ask why you love someone so much for actually not doing the job he is paid for? He failed to get us in the CL, he failed to take us any further in the cup comps last season, failed early on in the cup comp this season, and is finding it very difficult to keep any of our players fit despite them not being injured in action.

Has Mancini actually succeeded at anything since he's been here?

Oh, and PS. I'm a Mancini supporter.

[Original Dub]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.

I think the money and media attention has changed people on here, we are all desperate for a trophy but I feel that the fans are now divided. There are those who are so desperate to see a pot they are happy to see the club jeapordise something bigger and those who would rather be patient, finish higher and attract a higher class of player and blow everyone out of the water next year?

We have a brilliant squad, very capable of winning something, its not nearly perfect though, a few minor adjustments and additions and I believe City will be phenominal. Plus if we are competing in the champions league next year with our better squad we'll have a great chance of going all the way first time.

On the highlighted, you can speak for yourself pal. As for the rest, is it really worth going on about next year, the year after that and so on. Most folk have been waiting in hope for many years already, and will continue to do so because that's the way they've been brought up with City. The truth is now that that hope has turned into belief with all the money that is being injected into the club, and some, yes some, would like to see some sort of return and the way that happens is by seeing success on the pitch whether it's in the League or a Cup run. One of those is now out the window, but what happens when the other cup games come around and there's another big game at weekend, do we send the kids out again and where are we drawing the line?

For me, Mancio hasn't done anything to prove to me that he can win any cup, never mind the league. He had it within his grasp to get into the Champs League last year and blew it against our direct rivals. His form of game doesn't exactly fill me with expectation on match days and his tactical changes leave something to be desired.

So, to your ***Official - I Love Mancini*** thread, I'd like to ask why you love someone so much for actually not doing the job he is paid for? He failed to get us in the CL, he failed to take us any further in the cup comps last season, failed early on in the cup comp this season, and is finding it very difficult to keep any of our players fit despite them not being injured in action.

Has Mancini actually succeeded at anything since he's been here?

Oh, and PS. I'm a Mancini supporter.

Damn good post pal.

So, why DO you LOVE Mancini? Support, yes... believe in, maybe... LOVE? For what reason???

[sandman]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.

I think the money and media attention has changed people on here, we are all desperate for a trophy but I feel that the fans are now divided. There are those who are so desperate to see a pot they are happy to see the club jeapordise something bigger and those who would rather be patient, finish higher and attract a higher class of player and blow everyone out of the water next year?

We have a brilliant squad, very capable of winning something, its not nearly perfect though, a few minor adjustments and additions and I believe City will be phenominal. Plus if we are competing in the champions league next year with our better squad we'll have a great chance of going all the way first time.

On the highlighted, you can speak for yourself pal. As for the rest, is it really worth going on about next year, the year after that and so on. Most folk have been waiting in hope for many years already, and will continue to do so because that's the way they've been brought up with City. The truth is now that that hope has turned into belief with all the money that is being injected into the club, and some, yes some, would like to see some sort of return and the way that happens is by seeing success on the pitch whether it's in the League or a Cup run. One of those is now out the window, but what happens when the other cup games come around and there's another big game at weekend, do we send the kids out again and where are we drawing the line?

For me, Mancio hasn't done anything to prove to me that he can win any cup, never mind the league. He had it within his grasp to get into the Champs League last year and blew it against our direct rivals. His form of game doesn't exactly fill me with expectation on match days and his tactical changes leave something to be desired.

So, to your ***Official - I Love Mancini*** thread, I'd like to ask why you love someone so much for actually not doing the job he is paid for? He failed to get us in the CL, he failed to take us any further in the cup comps last season, failed early on in the cup comp this season, and is finding it very difficult to keep any of our players fit despite them not being injured in action.

Has Mancini actually succeeded at anything since he's been here?

Oh, and PS. I'm a Mancini supporter.

Damn good post pal.

So, why DO you LOVE Mancini? Support, yes... believe in, maybe... LOVE? For what reason???

Because he is the man who is going to lead our club to a trophy.

[Beefymcfc]

To call anyone gloryhunter who has wasted best part of their lives following City, like 99.99999999% of us, would be nothing short of ridiculous.

I think the money and media attention has changed people on here, we are all desperate for a trophy but I feel that the fans are now divided. There are those who are so desperate to see a pot they are happy to see the club jeapordise something bigger and those who would rather be patient, finish higher and attract a higher class of player and blow everyone out of the water next year?

We have a brilliant squad, very capable of winning something, its not nearly perfect though, a few minor adjustments and additions and I believe City will be phenominal. Plus if we are competing in the champions league next year with our better squad we'll have a great chance of going all the way first time.

On the highlighted, you can speak for yourself pal. As for the rest, is it really worth going on about next year, the year after that and so on. Most folk have been waiting in hope for many years already, and will continue to do so because that's the way they've been brought up with City. The truth is now that that hope has turned into belief with all the money that is being injected into the club, and some, yes some, would like to see some sort of return and the way that happens is by seeing success on the pitch whether it's in the League or a Cup run. One of those is now out the window, but what happens when the other cup games come around and there's another big game at weekend, do we send the kids out again and where are we drawing the line?

For me, Mancio hasn't done anything to prove to me that he can win any cup, never mind the league. He had it within his grasp to get into the Champs League last year and blew it against our direct rivals. His form of game doesn't exactly fill me with expectation on match days and his tactical changes leave something to be desired.

So, to your ***Official - I Love Mancini*** thread, I'd like to ask why you love someone so much for actually not doing the job he is paid for? He failed to get us in the CL, he failed to take us any further in the cup comps last season, failed early on in the cup comp this season, and is finding it very difficult to keep any of our players fit despite them not being injured in action.

Has Mancini actually succeeded at anything since he's been here?

Oh, and PS. I'm a Mancini supporter.

Damn good post pal.

So, why DO you LOVE Mancini? Support, yes... believe in, maybe... LOVE? For what reason???

Because he is the man who is going to lead our club to a trophy.

I get it now, it's a blind faith thing. Nowt wrong with that at all, well worthy of the discussion.

He does wear a good scarf.

[Original Dub]

Sandman, you LOVE Mancini because of what he's GOING to do in the future???


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[sandman]

Sandman, you LOVE Mancini because of what he's GOING to do in the future???


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And for the fact that he had the balls to put out a crap squad for the crap trophy rather than risk players 72 hours before we face the current champions in the league.

[john68]

Sandman,
Though I do agree with many of the things you say, I disagree about the importance of League position at the expense of other trophies.
1966-67...15th
1967-68...1st.....League Champions
1968-69...13th...FA Cup Winners...Charity Shield Winners
1969-70...10th...ECW Cup Winners...League Cup Winners...Charity Shield Runners-Up
1970-71...11th
1971-72...4th....Charity Shield Winners
1972-73...11th
1973-74...14th...League Cup Runners-Up

Our team from that era is, and rightly so, regarded as one of the greatest sides we have ever produced. The players from those years are regarded as heores and our successes raised a positive profile throughout the football world.

Yet, if you look at the league finishes from that era, you could argue that we were mainly an average middle of the table team. It was our success in other competitions that defined that team as being great. It was those days at Wembley and Vienna that became iconic nights in our history. Take away those other trophies and you take away almost all of the magic of those days.
Losing the way we did the other night, was very much a lost opportunity.

[Ted Hughes]

Sandman, you LOVE Mancini because of what he's GOING to do in the future???


TOPIC LOCKED

And for the fact that he had the balls to put out a crap squad for the crap trophy rather than risk players 72 hours before we face the current champions in the league.

My fucking flesh crawls every time I read utter arrogant rag type shit like that.

[sandman]

Sandman,
Though I do agree with many of the things you say, I disagree about the importance of League position at the expense of other trophies.
1966-67...15th
1967-68...1st.....League Champions
1968-69...13th...FA Cup Winners...Charity Shield Winners
1969-70...10th...ECW Cup Winners...League Cup Winners...Charity Shield Runners-Up
1970-71...11th
1971-72...4th....Charity Shield Winners
1972-73...11th
1973-74...14th...League Cup Runners-Up

Our team from that era is, and rightly so, regarded as one of the greatest sides we have ever produced. The players from those years are regarded as heores and our successes raised a positive profile throughout the football world.

Yet, if you look at the league finishes from that era, you could argue that we were mainly an average middle of the table team. It was our success in other competitions that defined that team as being great. It was those days at Wembley and Vienna that became iconic nights in our history. Take away those other trophies and you take away almost all of the magic of those days.
Losing the way we did the other night, was very much a lost opportunity.

Given the league positions in the 1968 - 1970 proves the theory that cup competitions detract from the league, after that the club was obviously on the decline on achieving the charity shield two years on.

The fact that the top 3 dont take this trophy particularly seriously has made it a crap competition, five years ago I would have given my right arm for that trophy but now I just cant get excited by it. I dont believe it is arrogance, I think it is a sad state of affairs caused by the former top 4.

[Beefymcfc]

Given the league positions in the 1968 - 1970 proves the theory that cup competitions detract from the league, after that the club was obviously on the decline on achieving the charity shield two years on.

The fact that the top 3 dont take this trophy particularly seriously has made it a crap competition, five years ago I would have given my right arm for that trophy but now I just cant get excited by it. I dont believe it is arrogance, I think it is a sad state of affairs caused by the former top 4.

I was like that last year in the cup run. Fulham was a dire affair that I would never want to be subjected to again and found it hard to get out of my seat. Then onto the Scunny game where even though we whooped em, the victory just seemed a little hollow cos I wasn't there. The Arsenal game came and went without even a whisper from me, because I, like you, realised it was a meaningless trophy and was wondering why I was spending my hard earned money supporting the lads.

And finally, the semi's against our bitter rivals United. I set off to the ground without the usual butterflies or the pre-match nerves and when I got there complained to my mate about how selfish of the club to stay in the cup and drag me out of my pit on a cold, damp January evening. I think we won that one but let's face it, who cares?

I was glad that they come back at theirs and knocked us out otherwise I'd have had the drudgery of traipsing all the way down to that shit-hole to watch us try for a trophy, that truthfully, no-one gives a fuck about - I thought it quite strange that the rag fuckers even taunted me with it given the nature of the trophy, and they put out a few good sides to seal the wins?

So yeah, you're right. A meaningless cup that the fans should have no interest in; I know I didn't. Oh why did I waste my time and money?

[Original Dub]

So the two main reasons you started this thread was to declare your LOVE for Mancini for something he hasn't yet done and also to declare your DELIGHT at getting beaten by West Brom's reserves... resulting in us getting knocked out of a competition that represented our best chance of finally instilling the winning mentality that Mancini himself has said is the single most important element that is missing from this club?

Listen mate, its Friday, you may as well get out of your head on every class A, B and C drug you can - I know I will - but I like to do my posting first and my drugs after. You should maybe take stock and re-evaluate?

(A Doomy-type) CHEERS.

[john68]

Your conclusion that the poor League positions was all the result of our success in cup competitions is absolutely ridiculous to say the least. It seems that you have set your agenda and closed your mind to anything else.
One cannot have an open discussion with a mind that is closed.
I'll leave you with it then...Good luck.

[sandman]

So the two main reasons you started this thread was to declare your LOVE for Mancini for something he hasn't yet done and also to declare your DELIGHT at getting beaten by West Brom's reserves... resulting in us getting knocked out of a competition that represented our best chance of finally instilling the winning mentality that Mancini himself has said is the single most important element that is missing from this club?

Listen mate, its Friday, you may as well get out of your head on every class A, B and C drug you can - I know I will - but I like to do my posting first and my drugs after. You should maybe take stock and re-evaluate?

(A Doomy-type) CHEERS.

I dont see how winning the reserves cup will help us win other things, I dont belive in that mentality bollocks, that was a pathetic theory invented by baconface to reassure the munichs after a poor season when they couldnt win anything worthwhile.

I dont buy it.

[Beefymcfc]

Love ya man!!! See ya tomorra!