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Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby guv111 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:38 pm

The more of this twerp's articles I read, and the more I see him snuggling up to the old guard on MotD, the more I detest him. Here are his latest inane/out of touch ramblings about how City are going to lose their identity... unlike good old Chelsea.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 89024.html

When Manchester City and Chelsea run out at Eastlands at lunch-time today it would be easy to lump the two clubs together; the meeting of the nouveaux riches in the Premier League's chequebook battle.


But that would be doing Chelsea a disservice. For all the money spent on getting them where they are today, they have something I fear City are losing. Manchester United have it too and so do Arsenal – the big three all still possess a true sense of identity.

There is more to a club than 11 good players, a clued-up manager and a state-of-the-art stadium. Players need to have an affinity with the club they are representing. You need to know the background – what being a Manchester City player is all about. It's important to keep some sort of Manchester feeling. When the Adams era ended at Arsenal, that ethos was handed on to the likes of Patrick Vieira (it does not have to be someone born and bred at the club). He passed it on to others, ensuring that there was always that core at the club. It is something that Arsène Wenger has been very conscious of ever since he arrived at the club as an outsider himself.

That could prove a problem for City. Do they recognise the importance of retaining, or even rebuilding, this core? Some players, like Carlos Tevez, appear to. It won't necessarily make them successful, but look where Chelsea, United and Arsenal finish up most years. I am not talking about kissing your badge in front of your fans when you score as if you are trying to prove a point. That means nothing.

When I joined Arsenal, the north London players were the life blood of the club and they passed on the traditions and that all-important identity to someone like me, an outsider from Manchester. If you care about something, really care, then you will go that step further. It is a special thing to have and can become a massive strength. The newcomers become indoctrinated in the ways of the club and that is something that has become diluted at many teams, particularly City with a new ground, new owners, new players and new manager.

For all the massive changes at both, United and Chelsea have managed to retain a real sense of identity, certainly when it comes to the players on the pitch. They still have that solid base who have come through the ranks, or been at the club long enough to understand what it means to pull on the red or blue shirt. There's Terry and Lampard at Stamford Bridge; at Old Trafford take Scholes and Giggs for a start. And it is not just the players, the backroom staff play a leading role in nurturing the connection with a club. Pat Rice has a massive responsibility at Arsenal, a club that has lost much of its home-grown talent. It is an area that clubs can disregard too easily, but it matters. It really matters.

City have let players like Stephen Ireland, who have come through the ranks, go too easily. Their list of senior pros now – Kolo Touré, Gareth Barry, Tevez, Vieira and Co – have not been at Eastlands long. Micah Richards and Shaun Wright-Phillips have served their time, but neither stands out as an obvious leader in the dressing room, certainly not in the same vein as a Terry or a Neville.

If a team loses its identity, it can never, ever get it back. Manchester City have a huge history. I have written before of growing up in the city and the impact of great names like Colin Bell and Franny Lee. Of course the game has changed hugely, and for the good in so many ways, but clubs must not let go of their past.

As for City's progress on the pitch, there have been times this season when they have played with real freedom and been good to watch – they certainly have players who can score goals. But they don't seem to have found their natural game yet. They were very, very good against Liverpool but the defeat at Sunderland was a more revealing result as it's that kind of game that gives a title bid momentum. That was the sort of game where a United or a Chelsea would scratch out a win despite not playing well. City are not doing that.

Everything is covered over by the result – win, and all seems well, no matter what the performance. To have that strength of character to win whatever the performance is a huge element to have in a dressing room, and often that strength of character emerges from players who have a true stake in the club.


Didn't take long to become just another cosy media lovey with absolutely nothing good to say about City, did it? He's so out of touch he doesn't even know why Ireland was shown the door. "City fan", indeed.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Crossie » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:47 pm

What a load of bollocks.

The "history" of the club died in the 70's when we stopped winning things.

What about Chelsea? what was their history before they started winning things?!??!
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Blue in the face » Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:03 pm

I only read half way down because it was such bollocks.

Did he not mention our academy players at all?
Did he not mention how much the scum have spent over the years? How long it is since their golden kids made up their team and how many outsiders have come in since?

That Terry is the only Chelsea player thats been there since before their money?

What a short sighted arsehole.

I hope I did him a disservice by not reading the whole article and maybe he did cover these points.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby guv111 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:04 pm

Crossie wrote:What a load of bollocks.

The "history" of the club died in the 70's when we stopped winning things.

What about Chelsea? what was their history before they started winning things?!??!


I know. What really galls me is that we get enough stick already without these self-proclaimed "fans" (who never even played for us) piping up in the press to have a go. City now have limitless possibilities for success, and Dixon comes out with this.

Blue in the face wrote:I only read half way down because it was such bollocks.

Did he not mention our academy players at all?
Did he not mention how much the scum have spent over the years? How long it is since their golden kids made up their team and how many outsiders have come in since?

That Terry is the only Chelsea player thats been there since before their money?

What a short sighted arsehole.

I hope I did him a disservice by not reading the whole article and maybe he did cover these points.


Nope, no mention of the academy or the Scum's spending. You were wise to skip the rest, as I now want to kick something... preferably something with a picture of his face on it.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Manx Blue » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:23 pm

guv111 wrote:The more of this twerp's articles I read, and the more I see him snuggling up to the old guard on MotD, the more I detest him. Here are his latest inane/out of touch ramblings about how City are going to lose their identity... unlike good old Chelsea.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 89024.html

When Manchester City and Chelsea run out at Eastlands at lunch-time today it would be easy to lump the two clubs together; the meeting of the nouveaux riches in the Premier League's chequebook battle.


But that would be doing Chelsea a disservice. For all the money spent on getting them where they are today, they have something I fear City are losing. Manchester United have it too and so do Arsenal – the big three all still possess a true sense of identity.

There is more to a club than 11 good players, a clued-up manager and a state-of-the-art stadium. Players need to have an affinity with the club they are representing. You need to know the background – what being a Manchester City player is all about. It's important to keep some sort of Manchester feeling. When the Adams era ended at Arsenal, that ethos was handed on to the likes of Patrick Vieira (it does not have to be someone born and bred at the club). He passed it on to others, ensuring that there was always that core at the club. It is something that Arsène Wenger has been very conscious of ever since he arrived at the club as an outsider himself.

That could prove a problem for City. Do they recognise the importance of retaining, or even rebuilding, this core? Some players, like Carlos Tevez, appear to. It won't necessarily make them successful, but look where Chelsea, United and Arsenal finish up most years. I am not talking about kissing your badge in front of your fans when you score as if you are trying to prove a point. That means nothing.

When I joined Arsenal, the north London players were the life blood of the club and they passed on the traditions and that all-important identity to someone like me, an outsider from Manchester. If you care about something, really care, then you will go that step further. It is a special thing to have and can become a massive strength. The newcomers become indoctrinated in the ways of the club and that is something that has become diluted at many teams, particularly City with a new ground, new owners, new players and new manager.

For all the massive changes at both, United and Chelsea have managed to retain a real sense of identity, certainly when it comes to the players on the pitch. They still have that solid base who have come through the ranks, or been at the club long enough to understand what it means to pull on the red or blue shirt. There's Terry and Lampard at Stamford Bridge; at Old Trafford take Scholes and Giggs for a start. And it is not just the players, the backroom staff play a leading role in nurturing the connection with a club. Pat Rice has a massive responsibility at Arsenal, a club that has lost much of its home-grown talent. It is an area that clubs can disregard too easily, but it matters. It really matters.

City have let players like Stephen Ireland, who have come through the ranks, go too easily. Their list of senior pros now – Kolo Touré, Gareth Barry, Tevez, Vieira and Co – have not been at Eastlands long. Micah Richards and Shaun Wright-Phillips have served their time, but neither stands out as an obvious leader in the dressing room, certainly not in the same vein as a Terry or a Neville.

If a team loses its identity, it can never, ever get it back. Manchester City have a huge history. I have written before of growing up in the city and the impact of great names like Colin Bell and Franny Lee. Of course the game has changed hugely, and for the good in so many ways, but clubs must not let go of their past.

As for City's progress on the pitch, there have been times this season when they have played with real freedom and been good to watch – they certainly have players who can score goals. But they don't seem to have found their natural game yet. They were very, very good against Liverpool but the defeat at Sunderland was a more revealing result as it's that kind of game that gives a title bid momentum. That was the sort of game where a United or a Chelsea would scratch out a win despite not playing well. City are not doing that.

Everything is covered over by the result – win, and all seems well, no matter what the performance. To have that strength of character to win whatever the performance is a huge element to have in a dressing room, and often that strength of character emerges from players who have a true stake in the club.


Didn't take long to become just another cosy media lovey with absolutely nothing good to say about City, did it? He's so out of touch he doesn't even know why Ireland was shown the door. "City fan", indeed.


Two words, which no football player, in my opinion has ever said. Therefore this was a piece, (is it called a flyer?) which someone either put under Dixons nose to get an OK, or they have a general OK from Dixon to write general bollocks.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:12 am

Funny. I don't remember Lampard playing for Chelsea's youth team and I doubt many West Ham fans do either. I stopped reading at that point.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby avoidconfusion » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:56 pm

The guy's a fucking knob in my opinion. City fan my arse.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:09 pm

He's not in the public eye to represent us, he's there for his beloved Arsenal.

If people thought he was a nice Blue City fan, then at least they know the truth that he's there for the coin and never really gave a stuff about us. I'm sure he'll be using the City boy link soon, coining it in again off the back of someone elses work!
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby guv111 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:48 pm

Perhaps paranoia, but someone who keeps banging on about his Manchester roots should know what connotations a certain word has: it's used at least three times in this article, and it's a synonym for big, bulky, colossal, enormous, gigantic, etc . You get the picture. Not sure about anyone else, but that particular word isn't one I use very often, let alone three times in quick succession. Maybe, as Manx Blue says, this is one of those ghosted articles which inarticulate footballers just put their names to, though Dixon's more erudite than most pundits and surely has the capacity to knock out a few hundred words if necessary, once in a while.

Ah well, he's unimportant.
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Colin the King » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:26 pm

guv111 wrote:someone who keeps banging on about his Manchester routes


Does he work for the AA?
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby guv111 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:48 pm

Colin the King wrote:
guv111 wrote:someone who keeps banging on about his Manchester routes


Does he work for the AA?


TeeHee! Edited!
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Re: Lee Dixon - "City fan"

Postby Beeks » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:34 pm

I've got to say I'm disappointed that he's wrote that..we need a City fan in the media who will defend us against the utter shit that gets spouted..not add to it
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