Michael Johnson back in full City training

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

When we loaned Bellamy to Cardiff and everyone was saying we were ruining Championship. Five games and two goals later no one is saying it.

Maybe, just maybe, injuries finally caught up with Bellamy and Mancini knew that he wouldn't get as many games out of him as you'd expect from senior member in this 25 player system? Then again, we have RSC there, DOH.

why couldnt mancini just stick to the training regime that bellamy was already doing when mancini arrived. i think you would have to say that the results were fantastic and very few injuries. i like mancini but i think he really fucked up letting him go.

but whats done is done. (annoying though as i watched the cardiff game the other night and bellers was out fucking standing).

That's exactly what brought him to mind when I read this. Looked head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch and would be an asset to any top flight team.

without a doubt. regardless of age id have him over milner any day of the week.

Can't argue with that.

[brite blu sky]

After all this time you cant really expect too much, but that may be a good thing in relation to MJ.. the only sensible reaction is lets wait and see.

What would be good is if he can get fit and offer something in the second half of the season.. but one step at a time eh!

From his previous ability it would be interesting to see how he would get on with Silva, as the two of them possibly have the best awareness of any of our squad. But he has to get fit, stay fit, get up to speed, get game time and then prove some worth and the ability to get in the team. Long way to go.

[Rae4685]

I'm with Slim.

If we had 25 players better than Bellers then fair play get rid of the big mouth, but Johnno, RSC and Jo?

Be-fucking-have.

If Bellers is a big mouth, sort him out. It's not like he wasn't expecting to be rotated, he said as much in his 1st week and was just happy to be a part of it. Fuck it he went to Cardiff, so it's not like he angled for a big move. Manager didn't like him, left him out the squad and forced him out. End of.

I think it was more about the influence Bellamy had/wanted upon the dressing room that Mancini didn't like. If any of you have watched blue moon rising yet it shows dressing room footage before the spurs game and all you seen was Bellamy mouthing off swearing away at the squad about how big the game was etc. Now I for one at the time of watching thought that's exactly what I want in the dressing room as you could see he really cared but I'm not sure professional players would appreciate it when there motivating themselves in their own way and Mancini definitely had an issue with it.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Are we talking about Johnno or Bellers now? I love them both. Though I think Johnno would lead me on and wouldn't treat me right.
Bellers might be the better long term option, even with the frequent domestic issues.

[kinkylola]

An actual point=me.

No fucking point or clue or respect for a very good and performing player treated very shabbily by our club=lola.

How about you have some respect for a player still at our club, you tart.

Bellamy disrespected our club and our manager. I loved bellamy and thought he was immense for us, but he complained all the fucking time ... ALL the time. He went to the press, threw his toys out of the pram ... he gave 100% on the field, and 100% in training, but if you think it was for city then you're just stupid, to be honest. He did it for himself.

You should have a long hard think about your priorities as regards our club.

[kinkylola]

also, calling into question another city supporter because they think bellamy had to go after his bust-ups is a display of absolutely 0 class. congratulations.

tevez is in the papers every week? how many quotes does he have saying shit about city? where's your point again? oh, you don't have one, you only have a ridiculous agenda that you brought into a thread about m.johnson.

reel yourself in mate, you're making a cock out of yourself.

[Beefymcfc]

Let's put the myth of us forcing Beller's out of the club to bed, he could've stayed.

When he signed for Cardiff on loan there was an interview on SSN with Dave Jones praising the signing and saying how pleased he was with Beller's and Man City. They were trying to force the issue of money and who was paying which obviously got him a bit flustered and he said that Beller's had the option to stay there and play for his place but chose to play for the team of his dreams - Cardiff.

He also went onto say that Craig had actually contacted him in early May to see if he coul get a loan deal there, prior to any of the sale options such as Wolfsburg. It was his option, no-one elses.

Edit: Didn't see the last few posts, I'll keep my trap shut now.

[Slim]

An actual point=me.

No fucking point or clue or respect for a very good and performing player treated very shabbily by our club=lola.

How about you have some respect for a player still at our club, you tart.

Bellamy disrespected our club and our manager. I loved bellamy and thought he was immense for us, but he complained all the fucking time ... ALL the time. He went to the press, threw his toys out of the pram ... he gave 100% on the field, and 100% in training, but if you think it was for city then you're just stupid, to be honest. He did it for himself.

You should have a long hard think about your priorities as regards our club.

My point was(and let's see if you can follow this) IT'S A GOOD THING JOHNSON IS FIT BECAUSE HE TAKES UP A SPOT IN BOTH SQUAD LISTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PUT TO BETTER USE TO SOMEONE WHO WASN'T INJURED FOR THE LAST 2½ YEARS.

Your point, Bellamy sucks Hughes cock.

Here. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disrespect cause I am not sure you know the meaning. And they are both still on the books.

And if you can name a single player in our squad who is out for Manchester City over themselves...well I don't need to call you a cock or stupid, because then I'd have to give you the dictionary links for those words too.

[Slim]

Let's put the myth of us forcing Beller's out of the club to bed, he could've stayed.

When he signed for Cardiff on loan there was an interview on SSN with Dave Jones praising the signing and saying how pleased he was with Beller's and Man City. They were trying to force the issue of money and who was paying which obviously got him a bit flustered and he said that Beller's had the option to stay there and play for his place but chose to play for the team of his dreams - Cardiff.

He also went onto say that Craig had actually contacted him in early May to see if he coul get a loan deal there, prior to any of the sale options such as Wolfsburg. It was his option, no-one elses.

Yes, but he only chose to leave after he wasn't named in the Europa squad and told he wasn't going to be in the confirmed league squad.(Which if he'd waited for, would have been too late for a move) and this was he actual quotes....

"If I don't get in the squad I don't know what I will do. I might finish, full stop or look at every option. This game is ruthless. I feel strongly that I can offer something at the club, I really enjoy playing for Manchester City. I think I have shown that with my commitment but I sort of feel I am not going to be part of it. I can see it from a distance. I find that very difficult to take because I really enjoy playing for Manchester City. I think I have shown that with my commitment this year. I've had a few options. I've turned down Wolfsburg. I don't fancy Germany, it's not somewhere I see myself playing football, with this 25-man ruling, it doesn't matter how well I train or how good my attitude is, I might not be registered to play. So do I go without playing football until January, or do I find myself a club where I can play football? I am committed to stay where I am. I feel I deserve to be part of it, but I don't pick the 25 or the team. I have to wait on their decision."

Not sure exactly how that is disrespecting City or Mancini, but people believe what they want to believe.

[Beefymcfc]

Let's put the myth of us forcing Beller's out of the club to bed, he could've stayed.

When he signed for Cardiff on loan there was an interview on SSN with Dave Jones praising the signing and saying how pleased he was with Beller's and Man City. They were trying to force the issue of money and who was paying which obviously got him a bit flustered and he said that Beller's had the option to stay there and play for his place but chose to play for the team of his dreams - Cardiff.

He also went onto say that Craig had actually contacted him in early May to see if he coul get a loan deal there, prior to any of the sale options such as Wolfsburg. It was his option, no-one elses.

Yes, but he only chose to leave after he wasn't named in the Europa squad and told he wasn't going to be in the confirmed league squad.(Which if he'd waited for, would have been too late for a move) and this was he actual quotes....

"If I don't get in the squad I don't know what I will do. I might finish, full stop or look at every option. This game is ruthless. I feel strongly that I can offer something at the club, I really enjoy playing for Manchester City. I think I have shown that with my commitment but I sort of feel I am not going to be part of it. I can see it from a distance. I find that very difficult to take because I really enjoy playing for Manchester City. I think I have shown that with my commitment this year. I've had a few options. I've turned down Wolfsburg. I don't fancy Germany, it's not somewhere I see myself playing football, with this 25-man ruling, it doesn't matter how well I train or how good my attitude is, I might not be registered to play. So do I go without playing football until January, or do I find myself a club where I can play football? I am committed to stay where I am. I feel I deserve to be part of it, but I don't pick the 25 or the team. I have to wait on their decision."

Not sure exactly how that is disrespecting City or Mancini, but people believe what they want to believe.

My post was in no way having a go at Beller's. I wanted him here when many were saying the opposite, supported him when he wasn't on fire, and wanted him to stay this year and fight foe his place; he chose different, not me. As for disrespecting Mancini, I never said that either, the little fucker could do a 3 wood for all I care, as long as it doesn't affect Man City.

Oh, and it was only a feeling for Bellers there, not fact. And this was well after the 'Beginning of May' that Dave Jones stated. Beller's made is own bed mate.

[kinkylola]

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i'm not sure if you're ignoring the fact that I did not literally mean that bellamy sucked hughes' cock, or what ... but it's silly either way. so stop it, silly.

I never said bellamy was not on the books, but he's obviously not at the club is he?

Are we pretending that bellamy has a perfect injury record and could play more than 1 game a week? That's fun.

My point? Do I have to make a point about bellamy in a thread about johnson? I guess my point is you should go start a thread about bellamy, you twat.

The quote you point out is also not the only thing bellamy said about city, but again, willful ignorance. I'm sure you don't have to look that one up, you're quite practiced in it already.

You may not think that there are any players who play for the club and not themselves, but there definitely are players that care about the club.

THe only thing johnno has done wrong is have the misfortune of being plagued by injuries. All he's ever said is that he is working hard to come back, and that he hopes he can be fit and repay the faith shown in him. If you'd care to look back over more than just one bellamy interview, you might see a different pattern in the things bellamy says.

but hey, people believe what they want to believe.

[Ted Hughes]

Will people just stop dissing Bellamy for some imaginary trouble causing? Mancini & Tevez had a stand up barney two weeks ago & Mancini said it was great ffs! For whatever reason, Mancini doesn't want him at the club & has moved him out. It's done now. He praises City whenever asked, loves the fans, loves the club & would be back here like a fucking shot if he could. He never wanted to go & for some reason some people are inventing a load of shite to make out as if he did because they can't rationalise him not being here for football reasons. It's not fair ffs. he doesn't deserve to be singled out as a trouble causer in this squad. Mancini simply doesn't want him, end of story. If gobbing off was a sacking offence, Tevez, not Bellamy, would have been 1st out of the door as he's ACTUALLY criticised Mancini's in public whilst being in the squad wheras Bellamy said fuck all until he'd been dropped from the Uefa squad & offered up for transfer to Wolfsburg. All he did was ran his fucking balls off & worked himself into the ground pre season so he could play for our fucking team.

Whether people agree with him going or not, he doesn't deserve the fucking shite & lies people are saying about him without one single fucking genuine quote to back it up. It's all bullshit & hearsay without any actual recorded quotes whatsoever. All stuff that someone told someone else who told someone else who happened to metion it when a reporter was passing.

I wonder what AJ says about Mancini in private when he gets dropped?

Bellamy's gone now but he was a top pro for City & people should remember him as such, with the respect his performances & workrate deserved.

[Beefymcfc]

Funny, I thought this was a Johnno thread, who the hell started the Beller's agenda? Some latent problems me thinks.

[Slim]

i'm not sure if you're ignoring the fact that I did not literally mean that bellamy sucked hughes' cock, or what ... but it's silly either way. so stop it, silly.

Literally or figuratively it's still disrespect.

I never said bellamy was not on the books, but he's obviously not at the club is he?

And this makes it right how?

Are we pretending that bellamy has a perfect injury record and could play more than 1 game a week? That's fun.

And yet managed more games this season than Johnson has in 2½ years.

My point? Do I have to make a point about bellamy in a thread about johnson? I guess my point is you should go start a thread about bellamy, you twat.

That wasn't your point, I guess it is now. Maybe you should look back and see who made a one line offhand comment about Bellamy and who decided that was worthy of a rant on the subject of Bellamy.

The quote you point out is also not the only thing bellamy said about city, but again, willful ignorance. I'm sure you don't have to look that one up, you're quite practiced in it already.

By all means, prove it. I am sure you can find a few quotes on the subject being it was an ALL THE TIME thing.

You may not think that there are any players who play for the club and not themselves, but there definitely are players that care about the club.

And you know what's in Bellamy's head? Saying he wanted to stay, wanted to contribute and enjoying his time at City, hallmarks of a guy who doesn't give a shit. Of course who are these mythical players you reference? I am sure again you will be providing proof.

THe only thing johnno has done wrong is have the misfortune of being plagued by injuries. All he's ever said is that he is working hard to come back, and that he hopes he can be fit and repay the faith shown in him. If you'd care to look back over more than just one bellamy interview, you might see a different pattern in the things bellamy says.

The only thing he has ever said, yet there is countless reports, even from posters here of him out late during the week on the turps. Which was my only criticism of him. Again Bellamy's mythical interviews...proof?

but hey, people believe what they want to believe.

Yes they do.

Feel free to reply or not, I am done with this and you, and damn you bingo for making me reply to this tool again.

[kinkylola]

mate, it was you that brought bellamy into it and you that made the first one liner about m.johnson. And you who made the first rant about bellamy. I think it's pretty disrespectful to claim the boy had a pint attached to his lips at all times (which is also something that has been disputed ... and I believe was started by a poster on here saying his friend had seen something, followed by a tabloid article .. hmm)

here are some articles where bellamy runs his mouth about the inner workings of the club, for no real reason than to satisfy his own ego (that's my opinion): (before you note that htey are also tabloid publications, I would let you know that they do have direct quotes)


http://www.africansoccerunion.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117193:craig-bellamy-hits-out-at-roberto-mancinis-training-regime&catid=529:europe-soccer-news&Itemid=200112
unacceptable to talk about the club in this manner

Shit stirring:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3089961/Bellamy-Mancini-never-speaks-to-me-or-Tevez.html
"There are a number of players, like Carlos Tevez and me, who he doesn't speak to and keeps us away.
unacceptable and casts doubt on other star players and disruptive to the team in general


Here's a quote from Mancini about bellamy lying to the press:
"Bellamy can talk but it is not important because it is false," said the Italian.
"Last year Craig played all the games with me. This year I have chosen other players. I am the manager. I make this choice.

The things that Bellamy said to the press are unacceptable, I'd be interested to know what he said behind closed doors or in the company of teammates if that's what he candy coated for the press.

I want you to know that I had an honest look for any kind of proof that johnson has a drinking problem ... the only thing I found was anecdotal and claimed he was seen drunk one night. If that's the litmus test for determining alcoholic players ... we've got a fair few more who were just featured on a golfing video I believe. You should go impose yourself on other unrelated threads with your opinions about them.

Finally, just because someone is seen as passionate, and honest and one who speaks his mind ... it does not mean what he has to say is right or appropriate or beneficial for the team in general. Bellamy crossed that line, so he had to go. I loved bellamy, i stood up for him when rag friends belittled him and called him a tosser .. but when he started becoming a dressing room issue, and constant source of negative press for the club, I agreed when Mancini decided to get rid. You can be sure that Mancini more than bellamy wants the club to succeed. Mancini's job depends on it. Bellamy only needs to prove he is individually valuable, no matter win or lose.

And in one of those article he talks about mark hughes always having been able to get the best out of him ... he must have forgot to take sparky's piece out before the interview, that's rude in my opinion, just as you shouldn't chew gum while being interviewed or giving public speeches, etc ...

you can go do one.

[johnno]

Johnno looks good!
I really want him to come good as it would be like another new signing

[brite blu sky]

If you ask me the trouble with Bellemy all started when Mancini insisted in calling him Greg.

Anyway im glad he is back, ive got him down to get the winner in the FA Cup Final

[Chinners]

Why didn't you just post these in your other thread? ... out of interest like

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Johnno looks good!
I really want him to come good as it would be like another new signing

Looks unfit, overweight and slightly hangover to me.

[Ted Hughes]

mate, it was you that brought bellamy into it and you that made the first one liner about m.johnson. And you who made the first rant about bellamy. I think it's pretty disrespectful to claim the boy had a pint attached to his lips at all times (which is also something that has been disputed ... and I believe was started by a poster on here saying his friend had seen something, followed by a tabloid article .. hmm)

here are some articles where bellamy runs his mouth about the inner workings of the club, for no real reason than to satisfy his own ego (that's my opinion): (before you note that htey are also tabloid publications, I would let you know that they do have direct quotes)


http://www.africansoccerunion.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117193:craig-bellamy-hits-out-at-roberto-mancinis-training-regime&catid=529:europe-soccer-news&Itemid=200112
unacceptable to talk about the club in this manner

Shit stirring:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3089961/Bellamy-Mancini-never-speaks-to-me-or-Tevez.html
"There are a number of players, like Carlos Tevez and me, who he doesn't speak to and keeps us away.
unacceptable and casts doubt on other star players and disruptive to the team in general


Here's a quote from Mancini about bellamy lying to the press:
"Bellamy can talk but it is not important because it is false," said the Italian.
"Last year Craig played all the games with me. This year I have chosen other players. I am the manager. I make this choice.

The things that Bellamy said to the press are unacceptable, I'd be interested to know what he said behind closed doors or in the company of teammates if that's what he candy coated for the press.

I want you to know that I had an honest look for any kind of proof that johnson has a drinking problem ... the only thing I found was anecdotal and claimed he was seen drunk one night. If that's the litmus test for determining alcoholic players ... we've got a fair few more who were just featured on a golfing video I believe. You should go impose yourself on other unrelated threads with your opinions about them.

Finally, just because someone is seen as passionate, and honest and one who speaks his mind ... it does not mean what he has to say is right or appropriate or beneficial for the team in general. Bellamy crossed that line, so he had to go. I loved bellamy, i stood up for him when rag friends belittled him and called him a tosser .. but when he started becoming a dressing room issue, and constant source of negative press for the club, I agreed when Mancini decided to get rid. You can be sure that Mancini more than bellamy wants the club to succeed. Mancini's job depends on it. Bellamy only needs to prove he is individually valuable, no matter win or lose.

And in one of those article he talks about mark hughes always having been able to get the best out of him ... he must have forgot to take sparky's piece out before the interview, that's rude in my opinion, just as you shouldn't chew gum while being interviewed or giving public speeches, etc ...

you can go do one.

This is fucking horse shit!! These are quotes from AFTER Bellamy had been offered to Wolfsburg & knew he was going & one from when he was already at Cardiff ffs! Why on Earth shouldn't he talk about it when he's being booted out? I'd be much worse if it was me! He's hardly given Mancini a slagging has he? Is it possible to be LESS critical of a manager who's dumping you without actually kissing his arse & thanking him for it? He'd get fucking pelters from me under the same circumstances & would be still getting it now wheras all Bellamy tends to say when people meet him is how much he hopes City succeed.

As for not wanting the club to succeed as compared to Mancini because Mancini's job depends on it; Bellamy's fucking job depended on it too ffs but no matter how he tried he's not wanted so he lost his job & has to work elsewhere!

I find this shite completely out of order. Why don't you put some of Tevez' fucking quotes on here & explain why Bellamy's are worse? Or find a direct qoute from Bellamy where he says ANYTHING wrong before he was told he was available for transfer. ANYTHING AT ALL!

Bellamy was an excellent player for City & this character assassination of him makes me fucking sick. Do you really think Yaya Toure or Balotelli want to play for City more than Bellamy did? My fucking arse they do.