Mancini (The Ted Hughes and BBS thread)

[the_georgian_genius]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

Because the alternative would be to discuss football & you're going to find it almost impossible to do that honestly without admitting some kind of fault in Manci's performance.

Let's hope we win the next 5 then you can pretend it was all part of a plan.

Nope

Thought it was a poor performance from 30mins onwards, and wouldn't of done the subs he did today but doesn't mean i should overreact.

Wanting another manager out after less than a year and advocating Harry "one league cup win at 62" as his replacement whilst comparing Balotelli to Bojinov after one full 90 mins is not discussing football Ted, it is discussing shite, and for that reason, i'm having no part of it as it will only wind me up.

By all means, discuss the performances, who played bad, who played good, what should the manager of done but can we leave these OTT pathetic knee jerk reactions whilst doing it? What am i thinking? This is modern day football where no team can dare to lose a game without fans suggesting wholesale changes.

I don't think most people are suggesting wholesale changes. They're just discussing a dire performance by team & manager & wondering why. I put it down to too much tinkering, as I did v Arsenal & have predicted this could happen.

Wanting a manager at any time is wholesale changes Ted, even more so when the current one is 10 months into his reign after he has spent £250m!

[Ted Hughes]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

Because the alternative would be to discuss football & you're going to find it almost impossible to do that honestly without admitting some kind of fault in Manci's performance.

Let's hope we win the next 5 then you can pretend it was all part of a plan.

Nope

Thought it was a poor performance from 30mins onwards, and wouldn't of done the subs he did today but doesn't mean i should overreact.

Wanting another manager out after less than a year and advocating Harry "one league cup win at 62" as his replacement whilst comparing Balotelli to Bojinov after one full 90 mins is not discussing football Ted, it is discussing shite, and for that reason, i'm having no part of it as it will only wind me up.

By all means, discuss the performances, who played bad, who played good, what should the manager of done but can we leave these OTT pathetic knee jerk reactions whilst doing it? What am i thinking? This is modern day football where no team can dare to lose a game without fans suggesting wholesale changes.

I don't think most people are suggesting wholesale changes. They're just discussing a dire performance by team & manager & wondering why. I put it down to too much tinkering, as I did v Arsenal & have predicted this could happen.

Wanting a manager at any time is wholesale changes Ted, even more so when the current one is 10 months into his reign after he has spent £250m!

I don't understand what you're talking about.

[the_georgian_genius]

I don't understand what you're talking about.

You said you didn't think people were suggesting wholesale changes,

I said wanting a manager out at anytime means wholesale changes,

People are wanting a manager out therefore suggesting wholesale changes.

[Nutzer]

I never post on here but always like to see all the comments from everybody good and bad but today I just had to come on and express an opinion and I have to say today is the day I lost faith with Mancini and what he is trying to do.

There are only a few players at this football club that have deserved their pay this season and they are Hart, Kompany, Zabeletta, Barry (for his Liverpool and Chelsea performances) and Tevez (all pre-Mancini signings) and one of our best players from last season is at Cardiff on loan. Oh yes and Mancini brought in David "I hate City" Platt as an interpreter. WTF is going on.

Garry Cook get a grip son otherwise it will be the biggest loss of money since Nick Leeson took hold of the cash at Baring Brothers.

Every single City fan who went to Wolves today should get their money and travel costs paid back by the players and Mancini for putting up with that drivel.

I've got to admit I've been spoiled - I still hanker after the days I sat in the Platt Lane stand watching Bell, Lee & Summerbee. But Jon is spot on about the way things are this season. I'm not surprised Carlos Tevez is talking about leaving the club which would be a devastating loss. With him playing we have a chance of winning, he can create a goal out of nowhere.

At least the money being wasted shouldn't bring down the club - but at this rate, it won't be long before Sheikh Mansur gets fed up with his useless toy and decides he wants out. What then?

[Beefymcfc]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

p.s i thought Zabaleta for Adebayor was a strange and bad decision, doesn't mean i wish we had Redknapp with his solitary league cup win though

What an absolute extreme arse. I knew I'd sussed you as a Roberto Rubber but tonight you've proved it; fuck the team as you say!

[the_georgian_genius]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

p.s i thought Zabaleta for Adebayor was a strange and bad decision, doesn't mean i wish we had Redknapp with his solitary league cup win though

What an absolute extreme arse. I knew I'd sussed you as a Roberto Rubber but tonight you've proved it; fuck the team as you say!

Yep course, cookie for you mate, Redknapp is on his way!!

[Ted Hughes]

I don't understand what you're talking about.

You said you didn't think people were suggesting wholesale changes,

I said wanting a manager out at anytime means wholesale changes,

People are wanting a manager out therefore suggesting wholesale changes.

I thought you meant we needed a manager! It's only one or two saying they want the manager out. I certainly don't but unfortunately he'll go anyway if he produces many more performances like today. You just don't get away with that kind of thing at top clubs these days. He has to turn this round straight away pure & simple.

Imo he needs to select our best defensive back 4 & go back to what he, & the players know best, then expand on it gradually. Otherwise he's in danger of destroying the tactcal work he did & if that happens he's a goner.

[Dubaimancityfan]

Yes sack him, get Hughes back because he won today.

There have been worse ideas

And while you at it, get Benjani back, He scored against Chelsea today !!

[Beefymcfc]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

p.s i thought Zabaleta for Adebayor was a strange and bad decision, doesn't mean i wish we had Redknapp with his solitary league cup win though

What an absolute extreme arse. I knew I'd sussed you as a Roberto Rubber but tonight you've proved it; fuck the team as you say!

Yep course, cookie for you mate, Redknapp is on his way!!

Don't talk shit (EXCUSE MY FRENCH), don't lose any creditibility that you've earnt.

[Im_Spartacus]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

[Beefymcfc]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

So what you're saying is that we have no Plan B?

[the_georgian_genius]

I don't understand what you're talking about.

You said you didn't think people were suggesting wholesale changes,

I said wanting a manager out at anytime means wholesale changes,

People are wanting a manager out therefore suggesting wholesale changes.

I thought you meant we needed a manager! It's only one or two saying they want the manager out. I certainly don't but unfortunately he'll go anyway if he produces many more performances like today. You just don't get away with that kind of thing at top clubs these days. He has to turn this round straight away pure & simple.

Imo he needs to select our best defensive back 4 & go back to what he, & the players know best, then expand on it gradually. Otherwise he's in danger of destroying the tactcal work he did & if that happens he's a goner.

He cannot select his best defensive back four Ted if one of them is out for a long time. His main back four will be Boateng-Toure-Kompany-Kolarov. The swapping and changes in defence have been because of injuries not because of rafa style tinkering.

and hopefully if the owners have any sense, they will see today as just football in general. A top side on average will play 60 games a season, even the more established settled sides with managers who have been there years and built a squad will lose 10 or so games. We have lost 4 and we're just in November!! Why the panic? It's a problem if this form carries on in November and we really start to fall off the pace, but it won't and you can bookmark me saying that.

[the_georgian_genius]

Redknapp over Mancini
Balotelli is the new Bojinov

Just some of the insane OTT ramblings by modern day football fans on the internet after a defeat.

I'm off for a chinese, watch the X Factor with the family.

See you next week lads!

p.s i thought Zabaleta for Adebayor was a strange and bad decision, doesn't mean i wish we had Redknapp with his solitary league cup win though

What an absolute extreme arse. I knew I'd sussed you as a Roberto Rubber but tonight you've proved it; fuck the team as you say!

Yep course, cookie for you mate, Redknapp is on his way!!

Don't talk shit (EXCUSE MY FRENCH), don't lose any creditibility that you've earnt.

That's not my "idea", it's original dubs.

p.s i'm a football fan not a politican, i don't need credibility.

[Dubaimancityfan]

The leaking of goals has coincided with the arrival of Boateng into the first team. Not sure if they are related; time will tell.

In the last 2 matches, he's played in 4 differnt positions, RB, LB, CB and a new one today for a short while as DM. Can you blame the lad for getting dizzy !

[Ted Hughes]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

I think we have to accept after today that we're not so far ahead as we thought from this time last year. BUT apart from the ridiculous loss of Bellamy, we have a stronger squad by far. The only reason we missed top 4 last year was by drawing games ( & by not exploiting a weakened Arsenal). Even last year we weren't shite, we only just missed it. The thing is, not to turn this defeat into a run. Keep our heads & we still get top 4. Lose it now & we risk blowing the season & no new manager can guarantee to solve that.

We can be critical of Bob but for the sake of the club, we need to back him & the team at games not start calling for his head.

[the_georgian_genius]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

I think we have to accept after today that we're not so far ahead as we thought from this time last year. BUT apart from the ridiculous loss of Bellamy, we have a stronger squad by far. The only reason we missed top 4 last year was by drawing games ( & by not exploiting a weakened Arsenal). Even last year we weren't shite, we only just missed it. The thing is, not to turn this defeat into a run. Keep our heads & we still get top 4. Lose it now & we risk blowing the season & no new manager can guarantee to solve that.

We can be critical of Bob but for the sake of the club, we need to back him & the team at games not start calling for his head.

Ted, is that really you because that is really a great post and i would say that with any manager after only 10 months.

[Im_Spartacus]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

So what you're saying is that we have no Plan B?

Unfortunately, I think we all know that were it not for Carlos, we would have struggled to score at all this season. Given the number of Carlos's goals where he harries, chases etc to create pressure on the defence, I would be so bold as to say that sometimes it is hard to see if we even have a plan A when it comes to attacking, as it seems to be just left down to him to magic something up - the rest really does seem to be dependant on whether or not the rest of the players can be arsed on that particular day.

I suppose I dont really know if it all boils down to Mancini, or the rest of the players for also being too reliant on Carlos - in particular the midfielders need to have a long hard look at their contribution in attack

[Im_Spartacus]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

I think we have to accept after today that we're not so far ahead as we thought from this time last year. BUT apart from the ridiculous loss of Bellamy, we have a stronger squad by far. The only reason we missed top 4 last year was by drawing games ( & by not exploiting a weakened Arsenal). Even last year we weren't shite, we only just missed it. The thing is, not to turn this defeat into a run. Keep our heads & we still get top 4. Lose it now & we risk blowing the season & no new manager can guarantee to solve that.

We can be critical of Bob but for the sake of the club, we need to back him & the team at games not start calling for his head.

Ted, is that really you because that is really a great post and i would say that with any manager after only 10 months.

I have never rated Mancini, but even if this drama turned into a crisis, I would have to agree with Ted. I personally think the players have a lot to do, as there have been too many playing WAY off the pace, and relying on others to win games for us.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't understand what you're talking about.

You said you didn't think people were suggesting wholesale changes,

I said wanting a manager out at anytime means wholesale changes,

People are wanting a manager out therefore suggesting wholesale changes.

I thought you meant we needed a manager! It's only one or two saying they want the manager out. I certainly don't but unfortunately he'll go anyway if he produces many more performances like today. You just don't get away with that kind of thing at top clubs these days. He has to turn this round straight away pure & simple.

Imo he needs to select our best defensive back 4 & go back to what he, & the players know best, then expand on it gradually. Otherwise he's in danger of destroying the tactcal work he did & if that happens he's a goner.

He cannot select his best defensive back four Ted if one of them is out for a long time. His main back four will be Boateng-Toure-Kompany-Kolarov. The swapping and changes in defence have been because of injuries not because of rafa style tinkering.

and hopefully if the owners have any sense, they will see today as just football in general. A top side on average will play 60 games a season, even the more established settled sides with managers who have been there years and built a squad will lose 10 or so games. We have lost 4 and we're just in November!! Why the panic? It's a problem if this form carries on in November and we really start to fall off the pace, but it won't and you can bookmark me saying that.

His strongest back 4 isn't Boateng & Kolarov & Bob thinking he can throw players in & expect that to be the case will fuck us & him up imo. That MAY be his strongest in the future but his strongest now is the players who know each other best. Lescott & Zabba are currently better defenders than Boateng & I believe his dreadful positioning & lack of reliability is ruining the confidence of the other players. Kompany suddenly looks nevous after looking imperious. Bob has created that uncertainty with too many team changes.

Today wasn't just a usual top 4 side blip, it was a shambles. It can't be repeated, even if we lose. We need to look like a proper team losing a one off not a bunch of amateurs losing because we're shite.

[the_georgian_genius]

I have had my reservations about Bobby since early doors, and only rarely have I seen anything that makes me think that my original assessment was incorrect.

I am not in the slightest surprised about the defeat today because we have been exposed over the last 2 weeks for our over-reliance on one player. I have commented many times that if you stop Tevez or he takes ill, Bobby hasn't a clue what to do about it. Fair enough, we beat a pretty poor Poznan side without him, but last week vs Arsenal, he was marked out of the game/injured, and we struggled. Today, in his absence, we struggled.

We struggle to break down sides at the best of times, but without Tevez, we might as well just pack the 18 yard box with centre halves for all the ideas we have going forwards.

I hope Balotelli has broad shoulders, because we are gonna need that kid to hit the ground running NOW, if we are not to be chasing United, Spurs and Arsenal for the rest of the season.

I think we have to accept after today that we're not so far ahead as we thought from this time last year. BUT apart from the ridiculous loss of Bellamy, we have a stronger squad by far. The only reason we missed top 4 last year was by drawing games ( & by not exploiting a weakened Arsenal). Even last year we weren't shite, we only just missed it. The thing is, not to turn this defeat into a run. Keep our heads & we still get top 4. Lose it now & we risk blowing the season & no new manager can guarantee to solve that.

We can be critical of Bob but for the sake of the club, we need to back him & the team at games not start calling for his head.

Ted, is that really you because that is really a great post and i would say that with any manager after only 10 months.

I have never rated Mancini, but even if this drama turned into a crisis, I would have to agree with Ted. I personally think the players have a lot to do, as there have been too many playing WAY off the pace, and relying on others to win games for us.

I've never any problems with anyone who doesn't rate Mancini or any manager for that matter, it's football, it's all about opinions and everyone has a different one to others. What really does wind me up though is OTT kneejerk reactions when a manager has been here less than a year. Manager should be given 2-3 years before they are judge properly unless there is a dramatic change in form and it is clealy not working out.