Clattenburg

[Mark (Blue Army)]

I think the Premier League is heading the same was as Serie A. I suppose with so much money involved in the game it was always going to happen.

I don't know, it's not like this changed the outcome of the game. Spurs were pretty poor in the 2nd half, I really really doubt they were getting an equalizer.

So if something like that happens to us this season it's ok as long as we are poor in the game, is that right????

[ryanmjo]

I think the Premier League is heading the same was as Serie A. I suppose with so much money involved in the game it was always going to happen.

I don't know, it's not like this changed the outcome of the game. Spurs were pretty poor in the 2nd half, I really really doubt they were getting an equalizer.

So if something like that happens to us this season it's ok as long as we are poor in the game, is that right????

No of course not. That's not what I'm saying.

King Kev seemed to be implying that the fix was in. I'm saying, that goal-while dubious- had no effect on the winner of the match.
Plus, if Clattenburg really wanted to give United a goal, why not blow for the soft penalty?

[Manx Blue]

Regardless of when this is Nani/Rags v Spurs, it's time to reclaim the game.

Nani quite obviously knows what he's done, and I fail to see how he can justify his actions. The amount of times we see players taking an extra 5 yards at throw in's, rolling around after tackles etc etc, means it's time to actively promote Sportsmanship and pour scorn on Gamesmanship. Our beautiful game is slowly being raped by cheats at every club in every division.

[King Kev]

I'm saying, that goal-while dubious- had no effect on the winner of the match.
Plus, if Clattenburg really wanted to give United a goal, why not blow for the soft penalty?

We don't know that. For all we knoe Gomes could have booted the ball up field and Spurs could have scored from it.

[Im_Spartacus]

Regardless of when this is Nani/Rags v Spurs, it's time to reclaim the game.

Nani quite obviously knows what he's done, and I fail to see how he can justify his actions. The amount of times we see players taking an extra 5 yards at throw in's, rolling around after tackles etc etc, means it's time to actively promote Sportsmanship and pour scorn on Gamesmanship. Our beautiful game is slowly being raped by cheats at every club in every division.

Incidentally, is that not what Gomez did? If he wants to claim he is whiter than white and that he thought it was a free kick, fine. But why did he then throw the ball 10 yards in front of where the offence took place? He can't have it both ways?

The more I see it, the more I think Gomez is a fucking idiot

[King Kev]

The more I see it, the more I think Gomez is a fucking idiot

I think few would argue with that.

But even fucking idiots deserve to be able to play the game within the rules.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Gomes cocked up and arguably Clatter was right withing the rules of the game. But surely when a ref decides to play in and give the advantage to a side , if there turns out to be no advantage shouldnt he have given the foul retrospectively?

But I agree with those who think it didn't make any difference to the result. Yes of course Spurs might have done something but I was already wondering why Spurs weren't even trying to attack given being one down.I was amazed at how little effort they were putting in to get at the scum boys.

[Im_Spartacus]

Gomes cocked up and arguably Clatter was right withing the rules of the game. But surely when a ref decides to play in and give the advantage to a side , if there turns out to be no advantage shouldnt he have given the foul retrospectively?

He waved his arms to signalled "no free kick" for the dive by Nani - there was no question of the referee playing advantage, it was that he didn't feel an offence had been committed by either side in relation to Nani hitting the deck. Where Nani fell over, the ball was out of the referee's view, and I would suggest that he simply didn't see it (rightly or wrongly)

I think the linesman will cop for this one when it comes out in the wash. He didn't start flagging until after the ball had gone in the net. The linesman cannot claim he was offering advantage for the handball he witnessed, as it is not in the linesman's remit to see how play pans out, his role is very black and white - was there an offence or was there not. He didnt indicate there had been an offence and therefore as far as the referee is concerned, the ball was 100% in play and legitimate when Nani scored.

[Ted Hughes]

Gomes cocked up and arguably Clatter was right withing the rules of the game. But surely when a ref decides to play in and give the advantage to a side , if there turns out to be no advantage shouldnt he have given the foul retrospectively?

But I agree with those who think it didn't make any difference to the result. Yes of course Spurs might have done something but I was already wondering why Spurs weren't even trying to attack given being one down.I was amazed at how little effort they were putting in to get at the scum boys.

Couldn't bear to watch the game but what you're describing there is the huge advantage rags have over us; everyone is scared of them no matter which team they put out & how badly it plays. Look at Wolves' finishing v us compared to v them; 2 chances 2 goals against us, plethora of simple chances consistently wellied over the bar v them.

[King Kev]

I think it's also worth mentioning that Jackson could, and possibly should, have been booked 3 times during the incident.

He clearly took a dive in order to try and win a penalty - A booking
He then deliberately handled the ball whilst it was still in play - A definite booking
He then acted in an unsporting way to kick to take advantage of the confusion to score the goal - Possible booking

A referee with a set of balls would have given at least one of these cards.

[Manx Blue]

Regardless of when this is Nani/Rags v Spurs, it's time to reclaim the game.

Nani quite obviously knows what he's done, and I fail to see how he can justify his actions. The amount of times we see players taking an extra 5 yards at throw in's, rolling around after tackles etc etc, means it's time to actively promote Sportsmanship and pour scorn on Gamesmanship. Our beautiful game is slowly being raped by cheats at every club in every division.

Incidentally, is that not what Gomez did? If he wants to claim he is whiter than white and that he thought it was a free kick, fine. But why did he then throw the ball 10 yards in front of where the offence took place? He can't have it both ways?

The more I see it, the more I think Gomez is a fucking idiot

You are right about moving the ball forward... Shouldn't have been done.

[zuricity]

The fa simply has to do something about this referee. How he can defend his actions and decisions last week and this week
Is beyond me. When ever i see this guy, i only think of corruption. There isn't one positive thing i can say about him

[ryanmjo]

I'm saying, that goal-while dubious- had no effect on the winner of the match.
Plus, if Clattenburg really wanted to give United a goal, why not blow for the soft penalty?

We don't know that. For all we knoe Gomes could have booted the ball up field and Spurs could have scored from it.

Well yes, that could have happened. Just like Jo could have scored a hat trick when he came on yesterday. Neither of those things is very likely though is what I'm saying. Spurs didn't much look like scoring for much of the 2nd half.

Again, if Clattenburg desperately wanted United to have another goal, why not award the penalty?

All I'm saying is, let's not blame a conspiracy when clearly it's just a case of Clattenburg being a poor referee?

[Burt]

I see the majority have been focusing on the hand ball and Dumbo Ferdinand harrassing the officials when they were having their conversation but no fucler has mentioned that Scholes practically assualted Twattenberg just before he went to speak to the linesman, He grappled him from the side and that's an immediate sending off, yet he wasn't punished. Those devilworshipping cunts get away with it time and time again. Why?

[Beefymcfc]

I see the majority have been focusing on the hand ball and Dumbo Ferdinand harrassing the officials when they were having their conversation but no fucler has mentioned that Scholes practically assualted Twattenberg just before he went to speak to the linesman, He grappled him from the side and that's an immediate sending off, yet he wasn't punished. Those devilworshipping cunts get away with it time and time again. Why?

You sort of answered your own question there. Whatever way we like to think of them they are the biggest pulling club in the league and there's no way they are going to let there shining star fall by the wayside. We are just so used to it these days that they could literally get away with whatever they want, and that is the sad truth.

[9secondlegend]

I had txt off a red saying " we are united and we do what we want"
Arrogance and fact in one sentance.

[simon12]

I had txt off a red saying " we are united and we do what we want"
Arrogance and fact in one sentance.

including doubling a players wages to "prove" we`re going to buy better players Paul...rather than give him a list of who we`re after and keep the new contract at 90k cos they`re ushited. HAHAHA.

[9secondlegend]

I had txt off a red saying " we are united and we do what we want"
Arrogance and fact in one sentance.

including doubling a players wages to "prove" we`re going to buy better players Paul...rather than give him a list of who we`re after and keep the new contract at 90k cos they`re ushited. HAHAHA.

Im down south at the moment and the shite i havr to listen to this weekend of some "man u" fans is unreal

[Beefymcfc]

Does the Nani incident bring players integrity into question? The reason I ask is that even though I think Clattenburg got it totally wrong, players like Nani shouldn't even be bringing it into question. I think it was KK who said that he could've actually got 3 cards there and should've definately got 1 for either diving or hadling the ball in a quest to further his claims.

And what about the Torres one not too long ago? These few incidents are now leading me to believe that there is no more honesty and sportsmanship in the game for the top clubs and that they now merely believe they can do and get away with what they want on the pitch. Certain managers need to take a close look at themselves for sending players out to literally cheat their way to a point or 3 and it's about time they were brought to account.

[lets all have a disco]

Clattenburg is the biggest wanker ref in the league.

The bent fool needs to be reffing in the park for a while.