Mancini (The Ted Hughes and BBS thread)

[Beefymcfc]

Its all well and good saying that we need to keep players fit for the prem but if the loosing goes on it spreads through the club. We need to get a winning mentality and the only way is by winning, once we have a few good games under the belt with the right result then and only then can we start to think about rotating the players. Instead we now have three on the bounce and 2 tough games coming up, if three turns into five then we could be fucked. The owners will surely be looking to change managers again if this happens and no good can come from that either so we really are between a rock and a hard place at the moment.

Remember, that winning mentaility is everything! Not like Carlos, Kolo, Yaya, Bridge, Shaun, Dave etc, etc, etc, have won anything in their lives.

Why change mentality when most of our squad have had that winning feeling. What'll piss 'em off more is realising that they aren't going to, and that's what worries me.

Night all.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

Those of you complaining about team selection would be the same ones complaining if he played the full strentgh team and we picked up some injuries to key players, bearing in mind we have the scum next week.

I would always put my strongest team out in every game. I'm a traditionalist I have the belief that footballers should be able to run 8km whilst kicking a ball around 3 times a week.

I agree when i played 11 a side i loved playing more than 1 game in a week because wait for it...." I loved playing football" you can say whatever but a body can recover after 2 days quite comfortably and the player will be extremely sharp as he is playing lots of games, the time you should start rotating is 3 quarters through the season. When certain players need a weeks rest.

[Ted Hughes]

Those of you complaining about team selection would be the same ones complaining if he played the full strentgh team and we picked up some injuries to key players, bearing in mind we have the scum next week.

Poznan have already showed they are no mugs before tonight. An they play in front of a very partisan crowd. This made Mancini's team selection tonight so arrogant it almost bordered on pig-headed, stubborn stupidity. Get the fucking game won then play the bastard youth team against Salzburg ffs !

They're not exactly mugs but they're not that good either & weren't playing very well at all until Bob switched the wingers. Even then their attacks were down to our bizarre tactics as we got caught on the break somehow, even though we weren't really committed to attacking. It was a very very poor. We defended as if we were a team that was going hell for leather attacking but we were mostly actually only getting one or two players into the box, even in the 2nd half. It was fucking incompetent tbh.

[Buffalo Soldier]

Those of you complaining about team selection would be the same ones complaining if he played the full strentgh team and we picked up some injuries to key players, bearing in mind we have the scum next week.

I would always put my strongest team out in every game. I'm a traditionalist I have the belief that footballers should be able to run 8km whilst kicking a ball around 3 times a week.

With you every single time on that one mate, am still fucking fuming about the Carling Cup team he put out. Get the job done first and then think about resting players once we have won the game/qualified from the group.

By fucking about with the team tonight, it just means that we have two more Thursday night games where we have to get a result, if we had won then we could have rested players safe in the knowledge we had already qualified.

I didn't see too many Spurs players rested against Inter and they didn't do too bad.

[Blue Since 76]

Those of you complaining about team selection would be the same ones complaining if he played the full strentgh team and we picked up some injuries to key players, bearing in mind we have the scum next week.

If we'd won tonight and then put out a full strength side against Juve and Salzburg, which would have been meaningless matches, I wouldn't have been pleased. I would never complain about putting a full strength side out in a match we need to win. Now, we need to put out a full strength side in the next two Europa games to try and get through, unless he's decided he doesn't want to win this one either. If that's the case, could he let us know what we are bothered about, as I'd stop buying tickets for the others.

[Blue Since 76]

Beefers,
Under normal circunstances, I would have gone onto the pitch and dragged Vieira off. I thought he was failing us. he created no threat, lacked energy, gave the ball away too often and on occasions when he should have been pivotal in turnuing defence into attack, his ineptitude caused us to put onto the back foot.

However...It is imperative that we beat WBA this weekend, especially as we have the derby coming up so soon. Playing Milner in all those games is a step too far for him and he is needed for those battles.

I would rather have us take risks tonight in a comp that is secondary to the Prem and one that at that point we were top of the group and were level in the game.

I can see where Mancini came from on this one Mate....Hindsight is 20/20 vision though.

Although I rate your opinion highly, I cannot agree on this. Whether the Brom game needs another slow but enegetic midfielder is a different issue, but if we'd have beaten or drawn with Poznan tonight we'd have been literally through (1 point from Salzburg would've done at the max).

What next (and this is the extreme), we write off the Europa like we did the Carling Cup?

With his team selection tonight, I think he showed what he thinks of this competition, too. Either that, or it was extremely arrogant to think a mixed up team could go there and win.

[Ted Hughes]

Those of you complaining about team selection would be the same ones complaining if he played the full strentgh team and we picked up some injuries to key players, bearing in mind we have the scum next week.

If we'd won tonight and then put out a full strength side against Juve and Salzburg, which would have been meaningless matches, I wouldn't have been pleased. I would never complain about putting a full strength side out in a match we need to win. Now, we need to put out a full strength side in the next two Europa games to try and get through, unless he's decided he doesn't want to win this one either. If that's the case, could he let us know what we are bothered about, as I'd stop buying tickets for the others.

Agree 100%. We threw away our best chance of a trophy for 30 odd years because we can't compete in 4 competitions. Right now we're chucking away another big chance because we can't compete in 2. This result puts us in big big danger of missing out. We have to go to Juve last game. Sure, we can get a result there but for all we know, we may actually have injuries at that time than we don't have now & end up with Ben Mee at CB again, or if we have to use Balotelli, he may go nuts & get sent off. It's a fucking mess.

[johnny crossan]

He tried to smile during the post match interview but his eyes were flicking - bad portent

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I'm struggling to think of five good performances in his time here. It is getting worse. We are losing to relegation fodder now, not good teams, showing neither class nor heart. We don't look like a team who will win, nor even like we are about to score.
Open your eyes Blues, we are fucking terrible. That is nothing new, but we're meant to be good now. In fact, in terms of turning us into a laughing stock Bobby is surpassing all the other jokers we've endured. This is worse than ever.
We are wasting time with Mancini when the perceived wisdom is that there is a limited window of opportunity.

Bobby Out!

[colonel_muck]

i am also angry about the carling cup. if we can't compete in 4 competetions with the squad we've got now, we'll never be able to. like many have said, that is our best chance of winning a trophy my mate mark hughes understood that and we got to the semi finals please come back mark!

[PeterParker]

Guys let`s be onest, the squad isn`t exceptional. Beside de very good first eleven that beat Looserpool and Chelsea, what do we have? We have Santa Clause Cruz, he`s best best job this season was telling the press Chevez is homesick ? Swp ? Swp is suffering the Superman syndrome from last season. Buhu, Mancini doesn`t play me so i will be a twat next time i``ll get in the squad. Bridge ? Bridge has the legs of thin ice, one game on the field, ten in the infirmery. I don`t wanna say nothing about this Balloteli guy, but i really hope he isn`a a scam that City felt in to. These are the reserves, the players that must fill the gap when they are needed. What did they achieved ? 1-2 in Carling Cup, and Poznan mess.
We have good players, but saddly we aren`t still a big four team. We need a mind on the center, and we need it this winter. Barry is alone there and nigel and yaya are defensive players, although they are friends with the ball. I don`t like Mancio, but i respect him because he knows what he is doing, but first you must have real players and by doing that you must have a transfer market like the one that we had this summer. Then when will have 22 players almost equal, we can force our way in 4 competitions.

[brite blu sky]

Im not saying that it is particularly right or wrong, but i would point out that the team selection tonight may well have been influenced by two things.
1. we need a win like nothing else against Brom to stay with the idea we are fighting for the title.
2. we have another big game that we must also get win out of for the same reason and more, on wednesday.

So even though in some circumstances there is no reason to not expect players to play 3 games in a week. Playing Sat, Thurs, Sun and Wed.. and get possibly the best performance on the Wed game is asking a bit much.

That said our second string is not organised well enough, has not played together enough and quite possibly not good enough.
Our first string without deJong and Tevez also looks dodgy.

Imo the midfield is not cutting it and it is giving us real problems. Bad luck and missed chances have supplied the rest of the story.

deJong and Tevez will no doubt change that.. but as i have been saying they are masking the situation.

[StrikeAnywhere]

I just can't believe the depths we have plummeted. We aren't grinding out results anymore like we were earlier this season, our defence has gone backwards immensely and we are continually chopping and changing the back four (injuries haven't helped but players train together nearly everyday so this shouldn't be that much of an issue).
These past results have been dissapointing as anything I can remember but its the way we have played that has me shaking my head. It seems as if almost every single player has gone backwards this season. Whether Mancini is at fault for this I don't know but his in game tactics are awful at times.

But hey in typical City fashion we may come out and blast West Brom off the pitch on the weekend :)

[BobKowalski]

Im not saying that it is particularly right or wrong, but i would point out that the team selection tonight may well have been influenced by two things.
1. we need a win like nothing else against Brom to stay with the idea we are fighting for the title.
2. we have another big game that we must also get win out of for the same reason and more, on wednesday.

So even though in some circumstances there is no reason to not expect players to play 3 games in a week. Playing Sat, Thurs, Sun and Wed.. and get possibly the best performance on the Wed game is asking a bit much.

That said our second string is not organised well enough, has not played together enough and quite possibly not good enough.
Our first string without deJong and Tevez also looks dodgy.

Imo the midfield is not cutting it and it is giving us real problems. Bad luck and missed chances have supplied the rest of the story.

deJong and Tevez will no doubt change that.. but as i have been saying they are masking the situation.

Agreed.

Its getting dull agreeing with you.

Mancini out. O'Neill in. Fuck it I could do with a laugh.

[lets all have a disco]

Its not working at the moment Bobby lad,THE BUCK STOPS WITH YOU.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

It was a complete mess last night. There's no two ways about that. As people said above, I'm sure Mancini was concentrating on WBA and Derby but still. There are no excuses for that mess.

[avoidconfusion]

O'Neil would be WAY out of his depth at City, with the resources available.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Have we had a poll on whether the feeling is he should go or stay yet?
It would be interesting to see where the general consensus is at the moment.
I get the feeling it would be something like 75%+ in favour of him staying

[avoidconfusion]

Have we had a poll on whether the feeling is he should go or stay yet?
It would be interesting to see where the general consensus is at the moment.
I get the feeling it would be something like 75%+ in favour of him staying

I also think that this not because it is Mancini though but because the fans are sick of the manager changing very year.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Have we had a poll on whether the feeling is he should go or stay yet?
It would be interesting to see where the general consensus is at the moment.
I get the feeling it would be something like 75%+ in favour of him staying

I also think that this not because it is Mancini though but because the fans are sick of the manager changing very year.

Oh without a doubt.
We all know that it isn't the right course to be constantly changing managers.
It has served us badly. It's a strange view for me to be taking as I support stability most of the time. I didn't like seeing, Royle, Keegan, Pearce nor Hughes sacked. Sven was strange because it surprised me, but I wasn't sorry to see the back of him.
But I just don't feel Mancini is going to do it. I have seen nothing to convince me he will succeed, in fact I think despite inheriting a decent squad and getting the money and freedom to bring in new players, I'm watching us go backwards.
Right now it is difficult to see a real cohesive plan or direction and we are bumbling along hoping for something to change.
We got to second but we were still rubbish in the main. It papered over the cracks.
I don't trust Bobby to either get us top four nor win a trophy this season. And I really thought we'd be on the pace in all comps this season.
We play WBA on Sunday and it's a game that a side with aspirations should be confident of winning. Who here is actually EXPECTING us to win now?
It's becoming a shambles.