Adebayor & Co

[Beefymcfc]

Apparently all the players are tired as well so it might be worth getting in some players capable of playing 2 games in 3 days.

I'm not sure about that one mate, they've actually played 4 in 10 and with the weekend game, 5 in 13. That's not bad going to be fair.

2 of the last 5 were against Lech Poznan where hardly any of the team that played last night actually featured so it's 3 in 13, hardly a punishing schedule.

Dread to think what sort of state they'll be in on Saturday, best have a few oxygen tanks at the side of the pitch.

No, they'll be for me after I've screamed my lungs away ;-)

[Beefymcfc]

Ade gets goals, this doesn't fit in with a philosophy of drawing every game 0-0.

Four 0-0 draws in 46 games since Mancini took over. But don't let that get in the way of you making a stupid, pointless, facetious remark.

You've gotta love that word, reminds me of faeces, but in your face.

[getdressedmctavish]

Mancini dont fancy Ade, fact. I agree with him. He and RSC will be off the wage bill in January. We will probably go for Dzeco or Torres but we will be better placed with Balliotelli in any event who Mancini clearly does fancy.Ofcourse he wont do any closing down which suggests that Mancini wont play him every game which is fine. But who ever we get it wont make Mancini more gung ho, or positive, however you describe it.We may take a few teams to the cleaners but it will be with measured counter attacking football. So get used to it.More worrying to me is the preference for the plodding Milner over Johnson.Again, there is only one possible reason for this. Milner is the better at tracking back.This is the world we will be living in for sometime to come.Which is why I didn't get in my car at 1pm yesterday to drive 500 miles and get home at 2pm today.In fact though I've travelled a fair bit since Mancini came my enthusiasm for the product is waning.I enjoyed Poznan, but was dismayed by Mancini's tactics. However we'll qualify and we may win it. But its no fun.So I dont want some 25 year old semi literate glory hunter telling me different.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Ade gets goals, this doesn't fit in with a philosophy of drawing every game 0-0.

Four 0-0 draws in 46 games since Mancini took over. But don't let that get in the way of you making a stupid, pointless, facetious remark.

So he's failed in 42 of them. Now who's stupid?

Fact is we don't score enough and Ade gets goals.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Can anyone tell me what attributes make Mario so much better than ad that ade can't even fill in for his abscence? I don't see it.

[CityGer]

I said a few weeks ago that I was puzzled with Bobby's claims that lack of player availability was shaping our style of play when we had only Ballo and Kolarov out. I still think it was a strange one and agree with Ted that the suspension of one player shouldn't be dictating our style of play with us having spent so much money.

One thing the comment proves, alongside the team selection against the Rags and Arsenal, is that he doesn't trust Ade, Jo and Rocky and is particularly keen on Lescott and Bridge either.

I hope he gets the forward he wants sooner rather than later then we will hopefully see some more expansive football.

[john68]

Ted,
I think it was made abundantly clear that the club made a real effort to bring in a top striker during the last transfer window. We were linked with Torres, then Dzeko and even more recently with Shrek. I don't think it is wholly fair to berate Mancini for not having one off the shelf, already in stock.

I am certain that we will make every effort again to sign a top striker in the forthcoming transfer window.

I believe that a top striker to partner Tevez was always part of the plan and would be suprised if Tevez wasn't aware that we are actively looking for a partner for him.

It is rare that I disagree with your views Ted but I sense that you are digging your heels in on this.

[ashton287]

There just three of the players that need replacing. Then there's bridge, shauny, MJ. Then to a much lesser degree zaba and yaya.

The way i see it with this 25 man rule we need players we can rely on in any game. Not a squad full of spastics. In the later stages of the europa we either go full strength and play the mongs in the league or vise versa. Either way one campaign is going to suffer.

[john@staustell]

Like someone on another thread said...he wants Dzeko or Torres...Don't think he rates Ade at all

That'd be me then!

Clearly Ade, RSC and Jo are not the required, world-domination strikers. From the Tele article today it looks like Dzeko is being arranged right now.

But in reply to some of the hysterical snipes on here - firstly I dont believe Adebayor was fully fit on Weds due to an injury, and with Tevez looking very injured, Ade is badly needed tomorrow. Secondly why does someone say 'to draw every game 0-0'? Just how many have we drawn 0-0? The tactics were actually much the same as against W Brom, but the goals came, like they will tomorrow. Another 12 months and they'll be coming against the Scum. How many shots did they have again? 1

[Ted Hughes]

Ted,
I think it was made abundantly clear that the club made a real effort to bring in a top striker during the last transfer window. We were linked with Torres, then Dzeko and even more recently with Shrek. I don't think it is wholly fair to berate Mancini for not having one off the shelf, already in stock.

I am certain that we will make every effort again to sign a top striker in the forthcoming transfer window.

I believe that a top striker to partner Tevez was always part of the plan and would be suprised if Tevez wasn't aware that we are actively looking for a partner for him.

It is rare that I disagree with your views Ted but I sense that you are digging your heels in on this.

Interestingly enough, Mamcini says today that the reason he wants Balotelli in the team & didn't play Adebayor is because he needs someone who can play striker but come in from the left side. Remind you of anyone? Sorry mate but seeing as I predicted this very problem & had the piss taken out of me by some people when I said how important a mistake it was, I'll be digging my heels in!

The description of a left sided attacker that Mancini gives today doesn't fit Torres or Dzeko so if we assume he's in for one of those two, presumably he's also in the market for another player who could cut in from the left. Anyone got any ideas of youngish quality strikers who fit that description? Chances are we're in for one in Jan.

[Wooders]

theres a kid at AC Milan who fits the bill perfectly

[DoomMerchant]

Problem is this, can we wait till janury(prob end of jan knowing our luck) relying on tevez? Mancini has to give the others a second chance between now and then or it will cost us. Ade may not be his cup of tea but hes a good striker, he should put his arm around him(even if he wants him out) bite his lip and try get the best out of him between now and then or else the only people who suffer is us.

I think Mancini's done that & Ade has been producing the goods to the best of his ability but if he is seen as so inferior to Balotelli that he can't trust him & would rather change tactics than start him, then we have to get rid when the time comes. There's no way Ade will accept being brought on as a time wasting sub in games like that. If he's still here after Jan & we treat him like that he'll start really sulking. Add that to Balotelli's potential antics & we'll end up with Tevez wanting out because he's sick of having to carry them.

Adebayor is also often our best defender on corners. He's willing to do some work, despite being slagged off everywhere for looking lazy or disinterested. I hate that Ade and RSC can't get a look in, because if Mancini is that arrogant that he thinks neither can play football then he's surely setting himself up for the axe if things go sideways imho.

Look, Mancini's proven he'll ride his luck by fucking off talent that he doesn't appreciate or attitudes he doesn't agree with. I like that concept in theory very much. It's what the red-nosed cunt down the street has provided for a coupla decades -- the club matters more than the players, and the manager decides how these guys work together. End of story.

i just happen to believe playing either Ade or RSC on Wednesday instead or Toure Yaya would have provided something positive which could have netted us 3 pts. Hindsight is asshole vision as they say, but what would it hurt to give either forward a run out vs Brum? I get wanting to get the point vs the rags, but we need 3 at all costs vs Brum and we certainly aren't scoring in record waves this season.

Also, is Jinky being punished for his drinking exploits? i think so.

cheers

[CityGer]

theres a kid at AC Milan who fits the bill perfectly

Pato??

I've yet to watch the lad and be impressed, this precocious talent is an absolute myth from what I've seen.

Unless you mean Ibra which would be a different debate. My view of him is that he would prove to be Ade2.

[john@staustell]

Also, is Jinky being punished for his drinking exploits? i think so.

cheers

Most likely being punished for not making much a of a contribution when he's on the field. A couple of jinky runs doesn't really make up for rest of his game at the moment, certainly not in Bobby's eyes when 100% concentration is needed.

However rumour has it he'll be given another chance tomorrow, so over to you AJ!

[Wooders]

theres a kid at AC Milan who fits the bill perfectly

Pato??

I've yet to watch the lad and be impressed, this precocious talent is an absolute myth from what I've seen.

Unless you mean Ibra which would be a different debate. My view of him is that he would prove to be Ade2.

I was being sarky and reffering to robinho actually !
But in truth Dzeko can play the role well and often does with his strike partner grafite for wolvesburg - he's not really this "loan striker" that some people have made out

[Ted Hughes]

theres a kid at AC Milan who fits the bill perfectly

Pato??

I've yet to watch the lad and be impressed, this precocious talent is an absolute myth from what I've seen.

Unless you mean Ibra which would be a different debate. My view of him is that he would prove to be Ade2.

I was being sarky and reffering to robinho actually !
But in truth Dzeko can play the role well and often does with his strike partner grafite for wolvesburg - he's not really this "loan striker" that some people have made out

Mancini was talking more of a left sided, half winger type position though. That's not something I've seen Dzeko do.

[DoomMerchant]

he's not really this "loan striker" that some people have made out

they own him then?

thanks.

[john@staustell]

he's not really this "loan striker" that some people have made out

they own him then?

thanks.

You'd think he'd loan a few quid out on his wages wouldn't you?