Bellamy chants.........

[sandman]

BELLAMY IS NOT EVEN ON GOOD FORM IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP FFS...

[Ted Hughes]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

[Beefymcfc]

I didn't disagree with Bellers moving on and I do not really miss him since he has been gone. However, he is one of those people who can pick the team up whether he's on the pitch or not. We seem to have lost that drive forward and I don't think that's to do with the players, but the nature of our tactics and game-play. When it works it is very satisfying to watch, but when it doesn't, the frustrations set in big time.

[Dameerto]

I understood it as his fitness being the thing keeping him out of the team - if he's been out for a lengthy period recovering and someone has been doing a good job filling in for him I wouldn't expect him to just walk back into their first team anyway. Even if he DID go straight into their team he would obviously need matches to get himself free of rust.

[sandman]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

What he did for us in the past and what he would do now are also completely different as he is another year older and has admitted himself that he does not feel his body is holding out well. It is much easier to play in the lower league but he is not managing it well, even when he does start, he is having physical problems that would exist wherever he was, he has said it publically.

Using the grass would be greener with Bellamy arguement to have a pop at Mancini is out of order because Bellamy cant do it. Hey, lets bring Kinkladze back, he played well for us, he did it before so he must be capable of doing it again, surely if he did it before then he will again, his body is only uncapable now because he's not here.

[Ted Hughes]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

What he did for us in the past and what he would do now are also completely different as he is another year older and has admitted himself that he does not feel his body is holding out well. It is much easier to play in the lower league but he is not managing it, he is having physical problems that would exist wherever he was, he has said it publically.

Using the grass would be greener with Bellamy arguement to have a pop at Mancini is out of order because Bellamy cant do it. Hey, lets bring Kinkladze back, he played well for us, he did it before so he must be capable of doing it again, surely if he did it before then he will again, his body is only uncapable now because he's not here.

It's not easier for players like Bellamy in the lower leagues at all. Inzaghi scored two for AC v Real recently. He wouldn't last 5 mins in the Championship.

Bellamy wasn't stuggling when he left City either, he was looking fine in the pre season games, better than anyone else in fact. Unless Bob has a fucking crystal ball, his dumoing Bellamy had fuck all to do with fitness & is yet another annoying example of people making up shite to prevent Bob from being seen to be anything other than perfect & it does my fucking head in. It's bullshit as was all the fucking lies about him causing trouble, which disciples of Bob don't mention now that some the other players cause more trouble than Bellamy ever did.

[sandman]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

What he did for us in the past and what he would do now are also completely different as he is another year older and has admitted himself that he does not feel his body is holding out well. It is much easier to play in the lower league but he is not managing it, he is having physical problems that would exist wherever he was, he has said it publically.

Using the grass would be greener with Bellamy arguement to have a pop at Mancini is out of order because Bellamy cant do it. Hey, lets bring Kinkladze back, he played well for us, he did it before so he must be capable of doing it again, surely if he did it before then he will again, his body is only uncapable now because he's not here.

It's not easier for players like Bellamy in the lower leagues at all. Inzaghi scored two for AC v Real recently. He wouldn't last 5 mins in the Championship.

A slower league with a lower standard of player, course its easier... though you're right, not for Bellamy, because when he does start he cant do it anymore, his body is giving up. Tht isnt because of where he is, its because of his age and physical condition.

[Ted Hughes]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

What he did for us in the past and what he would do now are also completely different as he is another year older and has admitted himself that he does not feel his body is holding out well. It is much easier to play in the lower league but he is not managing it, he is having physical problems that would exist wherever he was, he has said it publically.

Using the grass would be greener with Bellamy arguement to have a pop at Mancini is out of order because Bellamy cant do it. Hey, lets bring Kinkladze back, he played well for us, he did it before so he must be capable of doing it again, surely if he did it before then he will again, his body is only uncapable now because he's not here.

It's not easier for players like Bellamy in the lower leagues at all. Inzaghi scored two for AC v Real recently. He wouldn't last 5 mins in the Championship.

A slower league with a lower standard of player, course its easier... though you're right, not for Bellamy, because when he does start he cant do it anymore, his body is giving up. Tht isnt because of where he is, its because of his age and physical condition.

See above.

[sandman]

Irrelevent what he does in a Cardiff team good or bad. He's playing in a different team with different players. We know he can do a job for City & we know he's better than RSC or Jo before we even start comparing the current contribution of SWP Johnson etc & the injuries suspensions to Balotelli, Ade. That's enough to know for sure he would be in our squad & often in our team. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking through their arse whilst wearing Bob coloured specatcles.

What he did for us in the past and what he would do now are also completely different as he is another year older and has admitted himself that he does not feel his body is holding out well. It is much easier to play in the lower league but he is not managing it, he is having physical problems that would exist wherever he was, he has said it publically.

Using the grass would be greener with Bellamy arguement to have a pop at Mancini is out of order because Bellamy cant do it. Hey, lets bring Kinkladze back, he played well for us, he did it before so he must be capable of doing it again, surely if he did it before then he will again, his body is only uncapable now because he's not here.

It's not easier for players like Bellamy in the lower leagues at all. Inzaghi scored two for AC v Real recently. He wouldn't last 5 mins in the Championship.

A slower league with a lower standard of player, course its easier... though you're right, not for Bellamy, because when he does start he cant do it anymore, his body is giving up. Tht isnt because of where he is, its because of his age and physical condition.

See above.

Repeating it makes it no more relevant to this situation;

Different players, different situation, Bellamy was an awesome player, he no longer is, not due to lack of effort, but due to lack of physical ability, Mancini realised this and allowed him to go.

Mancini also saw this in Dunne and Ireland, both are also failing elsewhere.

the grass isnt greener with ex Heroes.

[Beefymcfc]

I'm reading quite a lot of stuff on here at the moment that all seems directly related to the manager, and people defending/attacking according to who tey support.

I see a 'Hughes moment' coming soon unless Mancio gets it together and starts winning matches. I don't know if our upcoming games are a good thing or a bad thing.

[Dameerto]

It boils down to why he was frozen out then loaned out - clash of personalities or some 'traveller-person' crystal ball reading. I know which I think happened. I also know the type of player we could really do with this season when our 'attacking play' faulters and we need some outlet other than a speculative long ball.

[Alioune DVToure]

For all those saying Bellamy isn't playing well at Cardiff, I'd question how many games they've actually seen him play there. I've seen him two or three times this season and he's played well each time, upping the tempo of the game and running into channels to stretch defences. He's never been a prolific scorer, and goals aren't the principal thing he brings to a team.

I think a lot of people are using this nonsense "Bellamy is past it" lark in a broader attempt to shield Mancini from criticism. It was only six months ago that he was one of our top 3 or 4 performers. Mancini shouldn't be immune from criticism - the last manager was subjected to loads.

Personally I think he was wrong to let Bellers go, but I'd be dismayed to see YET ANOTHER change of manager. They all make mistakes, and this has to count as a mistake on Mancini's part.

[Ted Hughes]

[quote="sandman
Repeating it makes it no more relevant to this situation;

Different players, different situation, Bellamy was an awesome player, he no longer is, not due to lack of effort, but due to lack of physical ability, Mancini realised this and allowed him to go.

Mancini also saw this in Dunne and Ireland, both are also failing elsewhere.

the grass isnt greener with ex Heroes.[/quote]

Hughes got rid of Dunne but hey what does one fact matter amidst a load of cobblers?

Bellamy was originally dumped because of his trouble making, now it's becausec Bob knew he wouldn't be fit. Horseshit.

[Lees Alter Ego]

Mancini dropped a bellers forcing a bollock out

[sandman]

I also know the type of player we could really do with this season when our 'attacking play' faulters and we need some outlet other than a speculative long ball.

I totally agree with this, we need the same type of player.

[sandman]

[quote="sandman
Repeating it makes it no more relevant to this situation;

Different players, different situation, Bellamy was an awesome player, he no longer is, not due to lack of effort, but due to lack of physical ability, Mancini realised this and allowed him to go.

Mancini also saw this in Dunne and Ireland, both are also failing elsewhere.

the grass isnt greener with ex Heroes.

Hughes got rid of Dunne but hey what does one fact matter amidst a load of cobblers?

Bellamy was originally dumped because of his trouble making, now it's becausec Bob knew he wouldn't be fit. Horseshit.[/quote]

You are right, Dunne did go under Hughes, my bad.

Even when the media were spouting all this Bellamy shit he was playing, he was fantastic in the Derbys despite all the media bullshit. Whether you like it or not, Bellamy is not the player you fell in love with, you may not agree but that is because you are looking for excuse to blame mancini, but the fact is you will never see him play at level again in the Premier League, not through lack of chance, he has had offers but because he cant do it.

[Ted Hughes]

You are right, Dunne did go under Hughes, my bad.

Even when the media were spouting all this Bellamy shit he was playing, he was fantastic in the Derbys despite all the media bullshit. Whether you like it or not, Bellamy is not the player you fell in love with, you may not agree but that is because you are looking for excuse to blame mancini, but the fact is you will never see him play at level again in the Premier League, not through lack of chance, he has had offers but because he cant do it.

Why the fuck would I be looking for an excuse to blame Mancini? Mancini got rid of him, end of story. In pre season Bellamy ran his balls off & looked fine then was sacked. Nothing to do with not looking fit whatsoever. You don't sack a player because he may be injured in 4 months time, it had fuck all to do with it & you know it. Whatever his current condition, I recon he'll beat any 10 of Mancini's current 1st team in a sprint right now & work twice as hard as Yaya Toure or Balotelli. That will do for me. Well worth a place.

[DoomMerchant]

the manager is fielding a team lacking pace.
the manager has said we need a striker who can come in from the left-side and make a difference.

what the fuck more do i need to hear to know that Bellers could be making a difference right now?

passion. pace. guile. i miss him. i am not going to be shy about it...fuck his knees. 20 matches from him this season could be the difference between a trophy and.or a shot at the league. And Mancini's going to ride his luck without him. I hope it works out for us.

cheers

[sandman]

You are right, Dunne did go under Hughes, my bad.

Even when the media were spouting all this Bellamy shit he was playing, he was fantastic in the Derbys despite all the media bullshit. Whether you like it or not, Bellamy is not the player you fell in love with, you may not agree but that is because you are looking for excuse to blame mancini, but the fact is you will never see him play at level again in the Premier League, not through lack of chance, he has had offers but because he cant do it.

Why the fuck would I be looking for an excuse to blame Mancini? Mancini got rid of him, end of story. In pre season Bellamy ran his balls off & looked fine then was sacked. Nothing to do with not looking fit whatsoever. You don't sack a player because he may be injured in 4 months time, it had fuck all to do with it & you know it. Whatever his current condition, I recon he'll beat any 10 of Mancini's current 1st team in a sprint right now & work twice as hard as Yaya Toure or Balotelli. That will do for me. Well worth a place.

Maybe because you were firmly in the Hughes in crowd and now you want rid of his successor.

He isnt playing well, that is a fact, your ifs and buts cannot guarantee his form in the premier league but the facts are he is not playing well and he has even said his body is letting him down.

[Ted Hughes]

You are right, Dunne did go under Hughes, my bad.

Even when the media were spouting all this Bellamy shit he was playing, he was fantastic in the Derbys despite all the media bullshit. Whether you like it or not, Bellamy is not the player you fell in love with, you may not agree but that is because you are looking for excuse to blame mancini, but the fact is you will never see him play at level again in the Premier League, not through lack of chance, he has had offers but because he cant do it.

Why the fuck would I be looking for an excuse to blame Mancini? Mancini got rid of him, end of story. In pre season Bellamy ran his balls off & looked fine then was sacked. Nothing to do with not looking fit whatsoever. You don't sack a player because he may be injured in 4 months time, it had fuck all to do with it & you know it. Whatever his current condition, I recon he'll beat any 10 of Mancini's current 1st team in a sprint right now & work twice as hard as Yaya Toure or Balotelli. That will do for me. Well worth a place.

Maybe because you were firmly in the Hughes in crowd and now you want rid of his successor.

He isnt playing well, that is a fact, your ifs and buts cannot guarantee his form in the premier league but the facts are he is not playing well and he has even said his body is letting him down.

I don't want rid of Manci & have argued the case for keeping him in every thread. What a completely wankerish thing to say just to try & give your argument some semblence of credibility.