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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:02 pm

brite blu sky wrote:I think the next few away games will actually suit us and i wouldn't be surprised if we carry off the points.. even against Stoke.

Looking back at our form and the way games panned out it is at home breaking down teams that we are struggling with, away games and their more open nature suit us more at the moment.


Well Hughes' team should suit us down to the ground as our defence is better than theirs so if they come out & attack, we should have space to get at them whilst keeping them at bay. Don't know what to expect at Stoke though as they've looked a bit less effective to me this season but have of course just beaten the scousers.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:30 pm

Just to throw another stat into the equation, if we win every home game and draw every away, we would end up on 71 points; Spurs got 4th with 70 last season.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby CityFanFromRome » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:37 pm

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Renato_CTID wrote:Disappointed twice: as a Citizen and of course as an Italian! Dear Mancio, it's time you leave Eastlands because you'll never understand what is Manchester City! Martin O'Neill, we're waiting for you as soon as possible!

Oh my. It's ok to want Mancini out because he doesn't play with four strikers every game, after all, we are only 6 points off the table leaders with one third of the season gone, but let's not consider that, eh? But to want him replaced with O'Neill...now that really makes me shudder.


15 goals in 13 games .......... 7 in 7 at home.

10 goals conceded in 13 games, second defence of the league joint with Newcastle behind Chelsea which conceded 8. Better than Arsenal and United who are ahead of us, and it's known that all winning teams are built from the back.

I'm not saying we are the finished article, not at all, nor I enjoy watching 0-0 draws. But at the end of the day, I'm confident that we will find a formula to attack well eventually; the hardest thing is to learn how to defend properly and we are well on our way there. I'd be more frustrated with 3-3 draws where we threw away the lead to be honest. Of course I'd prefer a 4-3 win over a 1-0 win, it's more entertaining. Still, you can't always score four so it's better to have a tight defence because with the personnel we have it's highly probable that if we don't concede, we will eventually score, and that would open up spaces for our attackers as the other team will have to attack to get an equaliser.

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Shit, even the Italians are falling out......


If Mancini doesn't get til the end of the season to sort it out, the club will be a laughing stock and the press will laughing their arses off. Bringing in O'Neil would only put us back to where we were last December. This is like Groundhog Day. Stick with the man, if he fails to deliver then sack him. If he delivers but his style of football is crap, have some words.

Correct me if I'm wrong my Italian friends, but didn't the Inter fans love Mancini. And didn't The Special One recieve a frosty reception because of the style of football he brought to them? .......before delivering the Chumps League.

You're right there. The fact is that at Inter Mancini played the same way he did in the games where Balotelli was available, with a 4-3-1-2 formation. The only difference was in the midfield three, which at Inter were Cambiasso (comparable with De Jogn defensively, but more efficient when plkaymaking or making runs into the opposition box), Javier Zanetti who is a real box to box midfielder despite having started his career as a full back, he never stops and can both cover and go forward, plus he has a mean shot, and usually Stankovic, another offensive minded midfielder, with Figo, who was actually a winger, played behind the strikers which were Ibra and another one between Balotelli, Julio Cruz, Adriano, etc.

Mourinho arrived with a bad reputation as far as pretty football was concerned but to be honest he didn't let them down on that aspect, if not at the very start. Especially when Inter went down one goal, he would always chase the equaliser with three or four strikers. He then came to the treble winning formula of last season with Milito upfront on his own, Eto'o and Pandev on the wings, Sneijder as an attacking playmaker, and a midfield duo behind these four.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:59 am

When Sven was manager, any concerns voiced, were met with ,"We are top err second, I mean third, not third, fourth, well we're still top six, but we can still make Europe" etc etc., until we eventually finished nowhere. Some could see it but were ridiculed.
The same may well happen with Mancini. The concern with Sven was that we were playing shit football, and that is what is happening now. We are playing shit football! If we carry on playing shit football as we are now, then we will NOT be top 4 for long. That is a concern. The football a team plays is a fair indication of how good a team they are. I'm not even sure it's a matter of tactics anymore, maybe we are simply a poor team. Because that is what we look like at the moment.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:57 am

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:When Sven was manager, any concerns voiced, were met with ,"We are top err second, I mean third, not third, fourth, well we're still top six, but we can still make Europe" etc etc., until we eventually finished nowhere. Some could see it but were ridiculed. The same may well happen with Mancini. The concern with Sven was that we were playing shit football, and that is what is happening now. We are playing shit football! If we carry on playing shit football as we are now, then we will NOT be top 4 for long. That is a concern. The football a team plays is a fair indication of how good a team they are. I'm not even sure it's a matter of tactics anymore, maybe we are simply a poor team. Because that is what we look like at the moment.
It is fair to be worried.


Well that's just crap. We finished 9th. Which was great achievement considering the players we got. Incidentally Hughes finished 10th with same team+100 million worth new players.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Wooders » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:24 am

he has to sort it out - there are far to many similarities to this time last year - we could easily be sat in 6th place, or worse, come mid december - and we're out of the carling cup
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disgruntled players - alarmingly it seems to be genuine talent for the future like Johnson and Tevez who can't get behind mancini as opposed to the likes of Petrov and Elano
Stories emerging in the press of contact being made with other managers - which the club then flatly deny
Booed off the pitch....

I can see a sacking coming on to be frank - sort it out mancio !
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:46 am

The 'contact with other managers' stuff is true. How do I know that? Because Gary Cook quite clearly said that they speak to managers all the time in order to have a contingency plan should anything happen. He freely admitted that it was from one such meeting last season, that Mancini's credentials for the job were established, giving them an insight into a possible replacemant for the manager at the time, should the worst happen, which, by coincedence it did, shortly after beating Arsenal & Chelsea.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby john68 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:34 pm

Beefy,
The scenarios of the Mercer/Allison era and that of Mancini are not as different as you would at first think. In fact there are many similarities that make KK's question quite relevent. KK questioned fans attitudes proir to Mercer/Allison winning any major trrophies and with little previous evidence to suggest they would be as successful as they became. Which was the whole point.

Following promotion (65-66), Mercer/Allison stated the aim was SURVIVAL. They used the words; "CONSOLIDATE OUR POSITION IN DIVISION 1). Like Mancini's target of 4th, which is considered by many to show a lack of ambition, the formers' target could also be interpreted as lacking ambition too.
During the previous season (66-67) we had hardly set the World alight. We finished 15th, gaining only 39pts (rounded up to 51pts at 3 for a win) and in 42 games, we had scored only 43 goals (1 goal per game with a bonus 1 chucked in). We conceded 52 goals. We spent a large part of that season looking at a relegation battle and the record shows that, despite our memories of a great attacking force, that City side (at that time) had a similar scoring record to that of Mancini.

At the start of our Championship season, we had little evidence to consider we might go on to become the League Champions and the attacking force we proved to be and after 13 games, our points total was exactly the same as that of Mancini's today. Don't think for 1 moment that our league winning season was all roses. the record shows; D, L, L, in the first 3 games and the press were considering us as a relegation side. Games 4-8 were all wins (4 home games and 1 away game) only Forest being a scalp of note. Arsenal (A), the rags (H) and Sunderland , who became relegated, (A) were consecutively lost and after losing the derby, the MuEN reported that "normality had returned to the [football] World. Like today, Mercer/Allison considered we had a striking problem and before game 12, they brought in Francis Lee (Mercer's last piece of the jigsaw). Unlike today, when a problem was identified, players could be brought in immediately without having to wait for transfer windows. Mancini has already identified our problem (we know that) but was unable to land his summer targets and is now stuck with waiting until the next window opens.

My conclusion is that, like Mancini, Mercer/Allison were still building a team and until Lee came in, it remained unfinished. When Lee arrived, things changed and we struck out and upwards. My thoughts are that the 2 regimes are remarkebly similar and once Mancini has got Mario back or landed his strike target, you will then see the finished article. Only then will we be able to make a definitive judgement. Until Lee became the last piece of the jigsaw and Mercer/Allison could make the changes they wished, there was very little evidence (as now) that we may become successful.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby The Man In Blue » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:54 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:When Sven was manager, any concerns voiced, were met with ,"We are top err second, I mean third, not third, fourth, well we're still top six, but we can still make Europe" etc etc., until we eventually finished nowhere. Some could see it but were ridiculed. The same may well happen with Mancini. The concern with Sven was that we were playing shit football, and that is what is happening now. We are playing shit football! If we carry on playing shit football as we are now, then we will NOT be top 4 for long. That is a concern. The football a team plays is a fair indication of how good a team they are. I'm not even sure it's a matter of tactics anymore, maybe we are simply a poor team. Because that is what we look like at the moment.
It is fair to be worried.


Well that's just crap. We finished 9th. Which was great achievement considering the players we got. Incidentally Hughes finished 10th with same team+100 million worth new players.


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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby brite blu sky » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:55 pm

john68 wrote:Beefy,
The scenarios of the Mercer/Allison era and that of Mancini are not as different as you would at first think. In fact there are many similarities that make KK's question quite relevent. KK questioned fans attitudes proir to Mercer/Allison winning any major trrophies and with little previous evidence to suggest they would be as successful as they became. Which was the whole point.

Following promotion (65-66), Mercer/Allison stated the aim was SURVIVAL. They used the words; "CONSOLIDATE OUR POSITION IN DIVISION 1). Like Mancini's target of 4th, which is considered by many to show a lack of ambition, the formers' target could also be interpreted as lacking ambition too.
During the previous season (66-67) we had hardly set the World alight. We finished 15th, gaining only 39pts (rounded up to 51pts at 3 for a win) and in 42 games, we had scored only 43 goals (1 goal per game with a bonus 1 chucked in). We conceded 52 goals. We spent a large part of that season looking at a relegation battle and the record shows that, despite our memories of a great attacking force, that City side (at that time) had a similar scoring record to that of Mancini.

At the start of our Championship season, we had little evidence to consider we might go on to become the League Champions and the attacking force we proved to be and after 13 games, our points total was exactly the same as that of Mancini's today. Don't think for 1 moment that our league winning season was all roses. the record shows; D, L, L, in the first 3 games and the press were considering us as a relegation side. Games 4-8 were all wins (4 home games and 1 away game) only Forest being a scalp of note. Arsenal (A), the rags (H) and Sunderland , who became relegated, (A) were consecutively lost and after losing the derby, the MuEN reported that "normality had returned to the [football] World. Like today, Mercer/Allison considered we had a striking problem and before game 12, they brought in Francis Lee (Mercer's last piece of the jigsaw). Unlike today, when a problem was identified, players could be brought in immediately without having to wait for transfer windows. Mancini has already identified our problem (we know that) but was unable to land his summer targets and is now stuck with waiting until the next window opens.

My conclusion is that, like Mancini, Mercer/Allison were still building a team and until Lee came in, it remained unfinished. When Lee arrived, things changed and we struck out and upwards. My thoughts are that the 2 regimes are remarkebly similar and once Mancini has got Mario back or landed his strike target, you will then see the finished article. Only then will we be able to make a definitive judgement. Until Lee became the last piece of the jigsaw and Mercer/Allison could make the changes they wished, there was very little evidence (as now) that we may become successful.


Good post.. very interesting.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby john68 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:59 pm

Who knows mate? Sometimes over the years i have wondered at some manager's views on players. I just learned to be bewildered and eventually accept it.
Remember bringing Holden in then, changing to a formation without wingers...eh(?)
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby brite blu sky » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:26 pm

john68 wrote:Who knows mate? Sometimes over the years i have wondered at some manager's views on players. I just learned to be bewildered and eventually accept it.
Remember bringing Holden in then, changing to a formation without wingers...eh(?)
Sometimes you ask why and know you'll never work out the answer.


Holden ha! i used to go to watch Oldham when they just got him.
I thought Reid was wierd, never trusted him at all, not sure quite why, think he reminded me of my old man!. We had some good players then though.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:56 pm

john68 wrote:Beefy,
The scenarios of the Mercer/Allison era and that of Mancini are not as different as you would at first think. In fact there are many similarities that make KK's question quite relevent. KK questioned fans attitudes proir to Mercer/Allison winning any major trrophies and with little previous evidence to suggest they would be as successful as they became. Which was the whole point.

Following promotion (65-66), Mercer/Allison stated the aim was SURVIVAL. They used the words; "CONSOLIDATE OUR POSITION IN DIVISION 1). Like Mancini's target of 4th, which is considered by many to show a lack of ambition, the formers' target could also be interpreted as lacking ambition too.
During the previous season (66-67) we had hardly set the World alight. We finished 15th, gaining only 39pts (rounded up to 51pts at 3 for a win) and in 42 games, we had scored only 43 goals (1 goal per game with a bonus 1 chucked in). We conceded 52 goals. We spent a large part of that season looking at a relegation battle and the record shows that, despite our memories of a great attacking force, that City side (at that time) had a similar scoring record to that of Mancini.

At the start of our Championship season, we had little evidence to consider we might go on to become the League Champions and the attacking force we proved to be and after 13 games, our points total was exactly the same as that of Mancini's today. Don't think for 1 moment that our league winning season was all roses. the record shows; D, L, L, in the first 3 games and the press were considering us as a relegation side. Games 4-8 were all wins (4 home games and 1 away game) only Forest being a scalp of note. Arsenal (A), the rags (H) and Sunderland , who became relegated, (A) were consecutively lost and after losing the derby, the MuEN reported that "normality had returned to the [football] World. Like today, Mercer/Allison considered we had a striking problem and before game 12, they brought in Francis Lee (Mercer's last piece of the jigsaw). Unlike today, when a problem was identified, players could be brought in immediately without having to wait for transfer windows. Mancini has already identified our problem (we know that) but was unable to land his summer targets and is now stuck with waiting until the next window opens.

My conclusion is that, like Mancini, Mercer/Allison were still building a team and until Lee came in, it remained unfinished. When Lee arrived, things changed and we struck out and upwards. My thoughts are that the 2 regimes are remarkebly similar and once Mancini has got Mario back or landed his strike target, you will then see the finished article. Only then will we be able to make a definitive judgement. Until Lee became the last piece of the jigsaw and Mercer/Allison could make the changes they wished, there was very little evidence (as now) that we may become successful.

Fucking hell John, that was 2 days ago! And what's with the War & Peace, you know we can only have one-liners on here now ;-)

Good post mate and to be truthful, I think I'm playing more of a Devils' Advodate at the moment. Just the same, I know you compare the 2 but in my own opinion there is just no comparison. When Mercer came in he made an instant impact on the club by not only gaining promotion, but winning the division; something that buys you time in any sport. And like you say, his aim from then on was to keep us in the league which every fan would have been well happy with. The rest, as they say, is history.

Now apart from the points situation there is no real comparison. Mancini didn't come in when we were in trouble, we were actually 5th in the league going into a group of easily winnable games. He then moved on to not get us in the position that we wanted and in that time show us that his tactics and formations were not as fluid as I'd thought they'd be. The Rags, Arsenal and Spurs games saw the depths of misery that only few could imagine when it come to gaining that 4th spot. On top of that were the Cup games that we crashed out of under his stewardship, Cup games many were betting on to end our drought since those heady days long ago.

You also state about being able to buy anytime which was also a massive bonus, but in reality it is exactly the same now but all about planning. We bought Mario, who could've been the back-up for Dzeko, but we still already had the likes of Ade, RSC, Bellers, Robbie and Jo on the books, so why didn't Mancini manage that situation ensuring that the likes of Ade (who has proved to be a top-notch striker) were up to speed with what was going on and made sure he was onside for this season. That's what management is all about, getting the best out of your staff in a professional manner in order to attain a set goal; that's why Prem managers are paid the big bucks.

So yeah, good post mate and you nearly had me thinking 'Actually, we are alright aren't we', but when I think about it, and after watching every single game since he's been here (2 or 3 times usually - sad, I know), I still have big reservations on where we are going. The problem is, from the heart, I want to believe that Mancio and Kidd are the new Mercer/Allison combo, and that is why I am still willing to see how things go. I said I'd give it until the Brum game to see how I felt and from those games I've been left a little numb. Now I'm giving it the next 4 - 6 to make an accurate assessment based on all elements - heart, head, stomach and arse - and if all them have me doing things I like, then I'll stay on the fence. However, if my heart is waning, my head is pounding, my stomach is churning and my arse is falling out, then this Blue Boy won't be holding the punches when it comes to the 'Mancini' question.

But for both our sakes, let's hope that Mancini gets his players on the pitch as I'm sure we all have one thing in common, and that's for City to win, regardless of anything else ;-)
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:52 pm

john68 wrote:Beefy,
The scenarios of the Mercer/Allison era and that of Mancini are not as different as you would at first think. In fact there are many similarities that make KK's question quite relevent. KK questioned fans attitudes proir to Mercer/Allison winning any major trrophies and with little previous evidence to suggest they would be as successful as they became. Which was the whole point.

Following promotion (65-66), Mercer/Allison stated the aim was SURVIVAL. They used the words; "CONSOLIDATE OUR POSITION IN DIVISION 1). Like Mancini's target of 4th, which is considered by many to show a lack of ambition, the formers' target could also be interpreted as lacking ambition too.
During the previous season (66-67) we had hardly set the World alight. We finished 15th, gaining only 39pts (rounded up to 51pts at 3 for a win) and in 42 games, we had scored only 43 goals (1 goal per game with a bonus 1 chucked in). We conceded 52 goals. We spent a large part of that season looking at a relegation battle and the record shows that, despite our memories of a great attacking force, that City side (at that time) had a similar scoring record to that of Mancini.

At the start of our Championship season, we had little evidence to consider we might go on to become the League Champions and the attacking force we proved to be and after 13 games, our points total was exactly the same as that of Mancini's today. Don't think for 1 moment that our league winning season was all roses. the record shows; D, L, L, in the first 3 games and the press were considering us as a relegation side. Games 4-8 were all wins (4 home games and 1 away game) only Forest being a scalp of note. Arsenal (A), the rags (H) and Sunderland , who became relegated, (A) were consecutively lost and after losing the derby, the MuEN reported that "normality had returned to the [football] World. Like today, Mercer/Allison considered we had a striking problem and before game 12, they brought in Francis Lee (Mercer's last piece of the jigsaw). Unlike today, when a problem was identified, players could be brought in immediately without having to wait for transfer windows. Mancini has already identified our problem (we know that) but was unable to land his summer targets and is now stuck with waiting until the next window opens.

My conclusion is that, like Mancini, Mercer/Allison were still building a team and until Lee came in, it remained unfinished. When Lee arrived, things changed and we struck out and upwards. My thoughts are that the 2 regimes are remarkebly similar and once Mancini has got Mario back or landed his strike target, you will then see the finished article. Only then will we be able to make a definitive judgement. Until Lee became the last piece of the jigsaw and Mercer/Allison could make the changes they wished, there was very little evidence (as now) that we may become successful.


When Mercer/Allison took over my elder brother (as a 'servant of the club' - he sold raffle tickets door to door) was invited to a supporter's meeting. He took me along because I usually went with him to sell the tickets, I was eight years old.
Allison strode into the room like a colossus and it took him less than ten minutes to convince us that we were about to see the building of a team which would terrorise English football and then European football, playing "attacking football like you've never seen before".

For some reason (charisma?) he came across as believable - we all believed anyway.

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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby wolfcity » Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:33 pm

MaineRoadMemories wrote:So Mancini has 4 more games and needs to get more than 7 points from these games. He's more than capable seen as though we play Fulham, Stoke, Bolton and West Ham.

But you never know in footy, we'll probably get a draw with Hughes (for old times sake), lose to a physical Stoke side, get outclassed by a very confident looking Bolton and then 3 points against a dire, dire relegation bound West Ham.


We can win at Fulham, draw at Stoke, beat Bolton (despite how good they're looking under Owen Coyle) and win at West Ham. That's a very optimistic 10 points from me with scope for drawing one more or losing one.

City aren't playing badly yet the results are there. The performances will get stronger and the dropped points won't be so frequent. I'm positive right now.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:49 pm

Kladze wrote:So it may as well be me.

MANCINI OUT if you please.




This is the most dreadful, boring football I've seen since Pearce.
In fact, given the money spent on what we all believe to be class players, it's worse.

Who's with me?

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Fuck off Mancini !

I can't be doing with this boring crap ;-o
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:39 am

ok enough is enough already.

Bye Roberto :)
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby King Kev » Sat May 14, 2011 10:43 pm

Kladze wrote:
Kladze wrote:So it may as well be me.

MANCINI OUT if you please.




This is the most dreadful, boring football I've seen since Pearce.
In fact, given the money spent on what we all believe to be class players, it's worse.

Who's with me?

:(





Fuck off Mancini !

I can't be doing with this boring crap ;-o


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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby bluenoon » Sat May 14, 2011 11:04 pm

King Kev wrote:
Kladze wrote:
Kladze wrote:So it may as well be me.

MANCINI OUT if you please.




This is the most dreadful, boring football I've seen since Pearce.
In fact, given the money spent on what we all believe to be class players, it's worse.

Who's with me?

:(


Fuck off Mancini !

I can't be doing with this boring crap ;-o


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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Blue in the face » Sat May 14, 2011 11:09 pm

I think the team we finished the season with was a hundred time better than the team we started with. Same players, but a better team.








Mancini hasn't a friggin clue, does he?
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