I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:33 pm

crossan wrote:I once saw Paul Power push over a pile of pennies in the George pub in Stockport town centre.


That's pushiness personified.

When I was a young, skinny urchin (think it was the 1960/61 season) I travelled with a chum to Elland Road to watch City play Leeds. When the City coach arrived, we crowded round to greet all the players and when Bert Trautmann jumped off, I pushed (so I was being pushy myself) forward to pat him on the back, in spite of the fact he towered above me. Unfortunately, I 'bounced' off him and started to tip over but he caught me with his big hands to stop me falling.

What a leviathan.

Moral of the story, my boyhood hero was never pushy (although it was a pity about the result of the game as Leeds won 4-3, even though Bert played a blinder).
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby Sheikhermaker » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:52 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
crossan wrote:I once saw Paul Power push over a pile of pennies in the George pub in Stockport town centre.


That's pushiness personified.

When I was a young, skinny urchin (think it was the 1960/61 season) I travelled with a chum to Elland Road to watch City play Leeds. When the City coach arrived, we crowded round to greet all the players and when Bert Trautmann jumped off, I pushed (so I was being pushy myself) forward to pat him on the back, in spite of the fact he towered above me. Unfortunately, I 'bounced' off him and started to tip over but he caught me with his big hands to stop me falling.

What a leviathan.

Moral of the story, my boyhood hero was never pushy (although it was a pity about the result of the game as Leeds won 4-3, even though Bert played a blinder).


Safe pair of hands.
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby john68 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:15 pm

Yay Mikhail...great memory of that Leeds game....From memory, summat nudged me to ask wasn't that game Denis Law's debut as a City player 1st time around?
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:36 am

john68 wrote:Yay Mikhail...great memory of that Leeds game....From memory, summat nudged me to ask wasn't that game Denis Law's debut as a City player 1st time around?


Yup, quite right John :- our £60,000 mega signing from Huddersfield Town (why, oh why was he allowed to leave City ??).

If you remember, in that game partway through the second half, City were leading 3-2 and Leeds threw everything into the attack. They were doing an early version of Wimbledon, Watford, Stoke, Big Fat Sam sides etc in perpetually hoofing the ball into City's box, from anywhere.

It was all aerial rough and tumble stuff and Bert was leaping like a salmon catching everything they were throwing at him (if a low flying aircraft had come over the ground at that stage, I swear Bert would have jumped up and caught that as well). With about ten minutes to go, my chum and I had to leave the ground in order to catch our train from nearby Beeston Station.

In those days there were huge slag heaps in between Elland Road and Beeston and we took a short cut by climbing over them, but although we kept looking back from our elevated route, we couldn't quite see into the ground to catch a glimpse of play. However, when there must have only been minutes left, we heard firstly one giant roar, followed almost immediately afterwards (or at least it felt like that) by a second one.

My chum, who happened to be a Leeds fan, was happily convinced that his team had scored twice in the last few minutes to win the game. I couldn't accept it and it was only when we finally got home that the result was confirmed (talk about Fergie time) and, being so angry, I actually fell out with my chum over it. This anger persisted through to Monday where, at school, I deliberatley picked a fight with the school thug and a couple of his gang, simply because I was that way out and because they were all Leeds' fans. I got absolutely battered by them but was given a detention for starting the fight in the first place.

In those days, detention evenings after school were on Thursdays, which coincided with the school chess club evening and there was no way I was going to miss that; so I skipped detention and was 'rewarded', for that action, with a Saturday morning detention instead. Saturday morning detentions required you to report to the school caretaker to be given menial, manual tasks such as shovelling coal and coke in the school boiler room, weeding the rose gardens, polishing tables in the staff room etc. etc. However, Saturday mornings were the time when I played football so I skipped the detention again and ended up finally by being caned with 'six of the best' (however did it get such a description ??) from the headmaster (who I already hated, but this only cranked up the animosity.....but that's another story altogether).

All in all, by a convoluted story, my lifelong distaste for Leeds Utd started here; all occasioned by one game (and one lad, in those days, with a volatile temper). In the intervening years, compounded by Don Revie and his 'method' football, I've never been able to warm to the Elland Road outfit (except for last year in their FA Cup visit to the Swamp) and have disliked them ever since.

Bert Trautmann really did play a blinder that day though and was epically magnificent. When I close my eyes, I can still see him in that game commanding his area......my hero still, now and forever.
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby john68 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:03 pm

Tremendous story Mikka.
Reminded me of 1966 and the Leicester FA Cup replay. I and my mates were at school but had booked the York Motors coach to Filbert Street. It was due to leave duriing school hours so we walked out at lunchtime. (My form teacher was an avid City fan)
Next day at registration the conversation went like this;
Teacher...McCormick?
Me.........Here Sir!
Teacher...Where were you yesterday afternoon?
Me.........Not well Sir!
Teacher...Have you brought a note?
Me.........Yes Sir!...(I'd written on the way to school)
Teacher...Did you get me a programme?
Me.........Yes Sir!
Teacher...Great win eh!
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:10 pm

You lucky so and so.....I wish I'd had such well balanced, perceptive and intelligent teachers, like that, when I was at school.
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby john68 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:53 am

There were 2 other incidents reagrding that teacher and City.

One day after registration, I was told to stay behind as everyone else went on to lessons. Being a quiet, extremely well behaved sort of young lad...:-)...I thought I was in trouble for something. I could think of plenty of reasons for them to punish me, but, as I wasn't sure what incident they had nailed me on, nor what evidence they had...I was staying shtum.

Imagine my suprise when he said "John, I need your help...my son is 7 years old and always been a blue. All his mates at school support U*****d and he wants me to let him go to O*d T******d with his mates Dad." Looking back, a teacher asking a kid's advice on any matter was unheard of and this teacher was genuinely worried his kid was going to be a rag...I took him tons of City pics, autographs and city stuff that I'd soort of just collected.

In 1969, after i had left school, I was making my way to Albert Square to wait for the open topped bus. I heard a voice calling my name. He was with his kid, who was about 10 years old then. The kid was decked out in City stuff...The teacher said..."We saved him".
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Re: I Pushed Neil Young...and George Heslop

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:07 pm

Wonderful story John and well done to you.

Thanks for sharing it with us; perhaps it's little things like that that make you wonder if there is a God after all (if there is, he must surely be a Blue and he can't let this 35 year wait in the wilderness go on for much longer, can he ??).
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