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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:34 pm

kinkylola wrote:i don't think it trivializes racism at all, merely hints at how endemic it is. All the other players you mentioned, they are model professionals, they all act the way you want them to act. Balotelli can be arrogant and petulant and puts himself in your face for good or bad. I never mentioned any of the other players, because like I said, Balotelli has an in your face attitude, he is much more in your face.

You're telling me because he is petulant and immature, that is what is drawing all this hatred? I don't buy it. Someone gets subbed and is pissed about it, throws his snood down ... that gets ranting posts about how he can fuck off and this and that, he's a disgrace, he's whatever. There's something more to it then just people not liking his attitude, that much is clear.

Also, you can calm down with your anti-brit, bigot witch hunt. Same situation exists in the USA, all over the world in fact, there's no denying that. I don't think Americans in general are any better. So, there's that out of the way, maybe we can address a serious subject.


How do you know what colour the posters critricising Balotelli are? For you to automatically assume they are all white (& British) makes your comments much more likely to be racist & bigoted than theirs.

And for your information, very few of the rags I know were sad to see Ronaldo go, some fucking hated him & thought he brought embarrassment to the club, but you wouldn't know that as you're sat in another fucking country, telling people you've never met, what their motives are when criticising a player on a football forum.

The most likely racist on this thread is you.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby kinkylola » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:47 pm

riiiiiight ... well anyway, not that I accused all people criticizing balotelli of racism, but you don't have to be white to be racist. As for being british, most posters have referred to where they are from quite clearly at some point in their time here ... not all are british. A lot of people would never believe themselves to be racist, but unfortunately it's not always such a clear cut issue.

You can revile me all you want, if one person ends up looking at himself and their irrational hatred of another human being and really ask why, that will be progress anyway.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:02 pm

kinkylola wrote:riiiiiight ... well anyway, not that I accused all people criticizing balotelli of racism, but you don't have to be white to be racist. As for being british, most posters have referred to where they are from quite clearly at some point in their time here ... not all are british. A lot of people would never believe themselves to be racist, but unfortunately it's not always such a clear cut issue.

You can revile me all you want, if one person ends up looking at himself and their irrational hatred of another human being and really ask why, that will be progress anyway.


Bringing up the word "racist" in a thread about a player with attitude is about as low as anyone can get...and I couldn't give a fuck that your a yank...I can be attacked from all and sundry that dont agree with me because I slagged off a player with an attitude that fucks me off (I had the same comments about Bellamy)but to reply to my thread that some of us must be racist...dear dear me.... is not even laughable.....just downright fucking embarrassing to read on this site.

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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Wooders » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:04 pm

I don't like him coz he's italian actually - so i am NOT a racist
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby pepsi_dave » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:28 pm

DO ME A FUCKING FAVOUR..... how the fucl has racism even been brought into this. The supposition that people who criticise him are potentially racist is a massive massive insult to all those who do voice their opinion of him. I personally love the fella, but he does have Cuntish attitude at times and that cannot be denied.

Me merely pointing this out, whether or not I have an issue with his attitude, does NOT in any way shape or form make me even slightly racist. Racism is a very serious accusation to level at people. Its indicitave of the overly PC times that we live in that Race card, is unfortunately one of the first cards to pulled out of the hat when ANY form of negative view, or even the slightest criticism of anyone with a different skin colour to their own is expressed. I would like for you to point out one single sentence that any one on here has uttered within this thread that could be considerd racist. And by racist I mean a defamatory or derogatory comment that relates to his skin colour or his heritage, NOT a comment that is just negative of him or his attitude - because that is NOT racist!

You are BANG out of order on this one Kinkylola!
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby kinkylola » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:34 pm

well, if I really am bang out of order than I put my hands up and apologies all around ... but I just don't see how someone having a poor attitude could bring on so much hatred from all and sundry ... boggles my mind.

Maybe i'm overly sensitive to it, I just think it is still an issue not just in soccer in england, but all around.

So, maybe I'm a twit ... wouldn't be the first time.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby ant london » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:53 pm

kinkylola wrote:well, if I really am bang out of order than I put my hands up and apologies all around ....


you really are BANG out of order mate

that said, you're not the only one

Sister of Fu called me homophobic t'other week and she was bang out of order too
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby kennyboy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:27 pm

This IS Ballotelli, and we all knew how he was.
If it wasent a therad about him id be worried.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Original Dub » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:54 pm

Man acts like cunt.

People see man acting like cunt.

People say man is acting like cunt.

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Re: Ballotelli

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:34 pm

ant london wrote:
kinkylola wrote:well, if I really am bang out of order than I put my hands up and apologies all around ....


you really are BANG out of order mate

that said, you're not the only one

Sister of Fu called me homophobic t'other week and she was bang out of order too


I actuall read a sign the other day that said AGNB...

it was bang out of order.















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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Tru_Blu » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:44 pm

I'm black and if you are not you will NEVER be able to understand racism PERIOD. Now to the subject, Ballotelli is a young successfull Prick (Prick, slang term for penis or inconsiderate person) from what I've seen of his reactions to things on the field because thats all we know really. But its quite right to say he was never given a fair playing field when he moved to England. Lots of problematic Ballotelli headlines for a guy never to have played on english soil. So i think judgments were already concluded for lots of people. Now if we consider reactions that come from Shrek when a foul goes against him (lots of cursing and arms waving about), i dont see any big differences to the on the field theatrics. So i not going to say he is in the ENGLISH spotlight for his strictly for being a black prick, but because he is a Ballotelli prick. Now if you want to find out why this guys is a prick try starting with some timeline notes.

http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_2_4018_the-troubled-timeline-of-manchester-citys-mario-balotelli-part-one.html
http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_2_4019_the-troubled-timeline-of-manchester-citys-mario-balotelli-part-two.html
http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_2_4020_the-troubled-timeline-of-manchester-citys-mario-balotelli-part-three.html
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby john68 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:52 pm

Original Dub wrote:Man acts like cunt.

People see man acting like cunt.

People say man is acting like cunt.

The End.


Sorta sums up the day I met you outside the Townly...I thought..."Bloody hell Ronan from Dublin is a cunt but isn't black"....though Aaaah!!! He is Oirish...blame it on the Catholics"...BTW hows the lovel;y Hernia?

Daftest thread I've read on here for ages...Ballo...Italian...Catholic...All the Popes fault...sorted.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:54 pm

Tru_Blu wrote:I'm black and if you are not you will NEVER be able to understand racism PERIOD.


Sorry mate but bollocks.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Tru_Blu » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:59 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
Tru_Blu wrote:I'm black and if you are not you will NEVER be able to understand racism PERIOD.


Sorry mate but bollocks.



No mate there is no other race that takes more abuse. Trust me i have traveled all over the world and it IS all the same. Autralia to Argentina, USA, England, Spain just to name a few and until I open my mouth or my wallet i get the same disrespect as if I'm not good enough to be there. But again i said if your are not of a dark skin you would NEVER know.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby me_innit » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:00 pm

kinkylola wrote:honestly I think a lot of the problem comes from the fact that here we have a very talented black man, who has an attitude and displays it carelessly on the pitch. He has designs above his station, and when that happens we see old school british racism pop out it's ugly head. If he was white and petulant ... or even just not black and petulant, he would get no where near the derision he receives, not only from opposing sides, but from his own teams' fans. cristiano ronaldo was as much of a cock and every bit as petulant, he was shamed and laughed at ... but not derided by his own fans. He never received this amount of vitriolic bile that spews from some people's mouths.

It's quite discomforting to witness.


I actually agree with you, that's not to say everyone who doesn't like Balotelli's attitude is racist though.

There are those who don't like Balotelli purely because of his attitude regardless of his race.

There are those that don't like Balotelli partly or wholly because of his race but hide behind him having an attitude to slag him to fuck.

There are also those that don't like the lad but just don't realise their sentiments border on being racist.

With regards to these different reasons stated, there's no point being offended that someone has suggested racism if you don't fall into the second or third category because like it or not there are people who hate him because of his race. If the cap fits and all that.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:06 pm

Tru_Blu wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Tru_Blu wrote:I'm black and if you are not you will NEVER be able to understand racism PERIOD.


Sorry mate but bollocks.



No mate there is no other race that takes more abuse. Trust me i have traveled all over the world and it IS all the same. Autralia to Argentina, USA, England, Spain just to name a few and until I open my mouth or my wallet i get the same disrespect as if I'm not good enough to be there. But again i said if your are not of a dark skin you would NEVER know.


I am of dark skin.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby guv111 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:16 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
Tru_Blu wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Tru_Blu wrote:I'm black and if you are not you will NEVER be able to understand racism PERIOD.


Sorry mate but bollocks.



No mate there is no other race that takes more abuse. Trust me i have traveled all over the world and it IS all the same. Autralia to Argentina, USA, England, Spain just to name a few and until I open my mouth or my wallet i get the same disrespect as if I'm not good enough to be there. But again i said if your are not of a dark skin you would NEVER know.


I am of dark skin.


Maybe a little off topic, but anyone who shrugs off racism ought to be forced to watch a video which is available in full on Google Video. It's called The Untold Story of Emmett Till, and it is nightnare-ish viewing, for many reasons.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:31 pm

kinkylola wrote:riiiiiight ... well anyway, not that I accused all people criticizing balotelli of racism, but you don't have to be white to be racist. As for being british, most posters have referred to where they are from quite clearly at some point in their time here ... not all are british. A lot of people would never believe themselves to be racist, but unfortunately it's not always such a clear cut issue.

You can revile me all you want, if one person ends up looking at himself and their irrational hatred of another human being and really ask why, that will be progress anyway.


Is this a pastiche on MLK or Christ?

I'd really drop it now mate if I were you as, whatever your motives, you are beginning to come across as patronising and superior.

Plenty of players have been given shit early in their City careers - some deserved, some unwarranted - but I don't remember any of it having racist undertones. And I've been going watching City for two decades week in, week out. What's more, the feeling around the ground at the minute is one of overwhelming goodwill toward Balotelli. That's more than was ever afforded to the underperforming Nigel Clough, Georgios Samaras and Lee Bradbury.
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby Chinners » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:36 pm

Whats wrong with being racey?
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Re: Ballotelli

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:38 pm

guv111 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
I am of dark skin.


Maybe a little off topic, but anyone who shrugs off racism ought to be forced to watch a video which is available in full on Google Video. It's called The Untold Story of Emmett Till, and it is nightnare-ish viewing, for many reasons.


I probably missread that but I hope you're not implying that I shrug off racism?

Anyway you're right I think it is off topic. I dont see how thinking a black player is a twat turns into a debate on racism.

Edit: reading it again i'm pretty sure i miss read so my apologies.
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