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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby King Kev » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:25 pm

More unconfirmed reports that it is Warfarin (also known under the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Lawarin, and Waran) which is an anticoagulant.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby avoidconfusion » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:27 pm

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avoidconfusion wrote:So this guy is a Muslim, follows the Ramadan etc.... but takes drug? What a hypocrite if this is true. I hope we fuck him off.


As countless people have pointed out - it could be something in something, rather than out right cheating. Bit quick to jump on one of our own isn't it?


I said "if true" meaning if it is true that he deliberately took any drugs!
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:28 pm

MaineRoadMemories wrote:It must have been leaked to the press to run over the back pages tomorrow for the club to release the statement this early into the affair. Quick strong reaction from the powers at be.

Sounds like Kolo took something he didn't know he was. Probably end up with a 1 or 2 month ban.



remember Rusedski and the nandrolone contamination of sports supplements - widely used by football clubs and athletes.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby bobby brows » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:30 pm

The key with "failure" of drug testing is what we would class as a failure.

Were all thinking its performance enhancing or illegal recreational use but under olympic testing something that could be prescribed by a doctor, sold over the counter in boots or purchased from holland and barrett could be illegal because of their ingredients.

Something similar happened to a hamilton player over xmas
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby blues2win » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:31 pm

Coumadin isn't a dietary substance, it's a blood thinner. It's actually the same substance as rat poison! If a rat ingests enough it will haemorrage and die. People are prescribed it because they have a tendency to develop blood clots which could threaten their lives. I can't believe that anyone would take that other than on prescription and the vast majority who are prescribed it are elderly people.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:36 pm

King Kev wrote:More unconfirmed reports that it is Warfarin (also known under the brand names Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Lawarin, and Waran) which is an anticoagulant.

If so, relax. Though why that should have a doping effect I don't know

I think I can remember players with bad dead legs which led to clots being prescribed anti-coagulants to break up the clot.

Are these unconfirmed reports reliable do you think? In a way I hope so as I am sure this would not be deemed serious
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby blues2win » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:42 pm

Yes but if Kolo was prescribed a drug like Coumadin by a doctor for clear medical reasons and proved it ( which he could) then I can't imagine all this fuss. The Club would know about a prescription for a dead leg at the time. It doesn't make sense.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby ruralblue » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:43 pm

Can folk stop presuming it's an illegal substance in the form of recreational drugs, we don't really know shit yet. Also the presumption that cause anyones a Muslim doesn't mean they don't do drugs is not entirely correct either. It isn't seen in a good light and goes away from the purity of the religion but does not mean that some muslims won't divuldge in drugs.

It will all come out.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Manx Blue » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:44 pm

I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that Kolo has taken something knowingly. I can't see why any player would take something, as compared to 10 or 20 years ago, wages are so much greater across the board. He would have so much to lose, and I can't see him being a "drugs cheat".

He has my full support. I will be absolutely staggered if he isn't proved innocent.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:44 pm

ruralblue wrote:Can folk stop presuming it's an illegal substance in the form of recreational drugs, we don't really know shit yet. Also the presumption that cause anyones a Muslim doesn't mean they don't do drugs is not entirely correct either. It isn't seen in a good light and goes away from the purity of the religion but does not mean that some muslims won't divuldge in drugs.

It will all come out.

The religious argument is just rubbish. As if half the world do what their commandments tell them to do.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby blues2win » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:48 pm

Sky are saying it was a substance in a dietary supplement which seems much more plausible and may well be the result of 'off the record briefing' by the club. As I said earlier in the thread I wish players would learn to put nothing in their mouths except ordinary food or drink unless they've checked with the club's medical staff first.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:54 pm

What a pillock. And to think he's been our joint best defender this season. I'd really begun to feel as though he'd changed gear. Smack in the face for us fans. Fucking dope. Big blow for us. He shouldn't be given another deal after this. I'm narc-ed. Let's just hope there's no substance to the rumours.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:55 pm

well, he certainly hasn't been taking speed or coke....

if it's warfarin, it makes no sense - there's no discernible advantage.

as always with these cases - <cough remedy, asthma medicine> etc - i do think there's no smoke without fire.

he should get some slimming pills off his dealer tho and band em to yaya.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby kennyboy » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:59 pm

Apperently it was found out after the Scum match, and i tought he was injured..

So now we are stuck with Lescott...ohh dear god, would love too see this back four;

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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby The Man In Blue » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:00 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:What a pillock. And to think he's been our joint best defender this season. I'd really begun to feel as though he'd changed gear. Smack in the face for us fans. Fucking dope. Big blow for us. He shouldn't be given another deal after this. I'm narc-ed. Let's just hope there's no substance to the rumours.


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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:02 pm

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Alioune DVToure wrote:What a pillock. And to think he's been our joint best defender this season. I'd really begun to feel as though he'd changed gear. Smack in the face for us fans. Fucking dope. Big blow for us. He shouldn't be given another deal after this. I'm narc-ed. Let's just hope there's no substance to the rumours.


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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby marvin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:10 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:well, he certainly hasn't been taking speed or coke....

if it's warfarin, it makes no sense - there's no discernible advantage.

as always with these cases - <cough remedy, asthma medicine> etc - i do think there's no smoke without fire.

he should get some slimming pills off his dealer tho and band em to yaya.

I haven't checked but I think marijuana is a specified substance

You are assuming the worst, and there's no need to do that.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 pm

kennyboy wrote:Apperently it was found out after the Scum match, and i tought he was injured..

So now we are stuck with Lescott...ohh dear god, would love too see this back four;

Kolarov - Kompany - Richards - Zabaleta


I like Lescott - I think he holds a good line. Don't forget we've got a couple of budding youngsters who can come in like Boyata (though thinking about it he might still be a bit green).
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:15 pm

blues2win wrote:Coumadin isn't a dietary substance, it's a blood thinner. It's actually the same substance as rat poison! If a rat ingests enough it will haemorrage and die. People are prescribed it because they have a tendency to develop blood clots which could threaten their lives. I can't believe that anyone would take that other than on prescription and the vast majority who are prescribed it are elderly people.


I have two of my best mates that take whafarin/blood thinkers BOTH in there 40's one because he got DVT, the other because of a defribulating heart condition, so not only for oldies. Yes it will kill a fookin rat, if doses are correct, do you think humans would be prescribed it if fatal!!! So will many other things, total bollox!!

For now, he is innocent until otherwise proven guilty, simple as.

Suspension is automatic like it would be any job where drug testing is present.
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Re: Kolo tested positive for a specified substance

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:17 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
blues2win wrote:Coumadin isn't a dietary substance, it's a blood thinner. It's actually the same substance as rat poison! If a rat ingests enough it will haemorrage and die. People are prescribed it because they have a tendency to develop blood clots which could threaten their lives. I can't believe that anyone would take that other than on prescription and the vast majority who are prescribed it are elderly people.


I have two of my best mates that take whafarin/blood thinkers BOTH in there 40's one because he got DVT, the other because of a defribulating heart condition, so not only for oldies. Yes it will kill a fookin rat, if doses are correct, do you think humans would be prescribed it if fatal!!! So will many other things, total bollox!!

For now, he is innocent until otherwise proven guilty, simple as.

Suspension is automatic like it would be any job where drug testing is present.


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