BobKowalski wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:BobKowalski wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Original Dub wrote:Its a fact that the more you talk about something, the more it sets in as a mindset. If you're surrounded by people in a room telling you how tired they are, you'll feed off that energy (or lack of it).
Every interview Wenger (& Baconface when he's available to comment!) gives after a below par performance is ulitmately positive going forward. If you pay close attention, you will see in every interview, Wenger nearly always mentions the words "quality" and "belief" - even in defeat.
There HAS to be an absolute BELIEF in what we are trying to achieve and that has to be expressed from top to bottom in the build up and aftermath of EVERY game if we want to achieve the highest goals, because mentality is infectious.
Don't tell people you're tired every week, because even if you're not, it will give the opposition belief. IMO we should be telling every cunt that tiredness isn't a factor whan you're as pumped up and strong as this club is.
I don't understand why people don't 'get' this. The alternative argument is that psychology in football doesn't exist & that there's nothing a manager can do or say that can have an effect on his team or on opponents.
Because we do get it. What we don't get is the bizarre assumption that Mancini's rather bland press conferences represent the sum total of his interaction with the players or that anything he does say to them during trainings sessions, pre match, post match or sharing a piss with them in the bog is somehow nullified by the fact that they are obsessing over what he said the day before in his presser. Like I doubt any of them even watch the fucking thing and in some cases as its all in English can even understand the fucking thing.
Well that's more utter bollocks isn't it? You really don't have an argument do you?
So, you know for a fact that every single footballer thinks like you? None of them will agree with what some of us are saying? Micah would be saying the same thing if he was playing under Ferguson or Mourinho? No club gains anything by presenting a positive front to the outside world & future opponents rather than a negative one? Future opponents are not influenced whatsoever by the image a club portrays & it never has any influence on their confidence? The supporters aren't more 'up' for the games when the team presents a confident face & their confidence doesn't then in turn help the players? Positive psychology in football is basically bollocks?
If I was to accept your point, (rather than ignoring it like you do with all of mine & even though I think it's nonsense ) that the players don't take any notice of him, can you explain then, exactly how Bob's comments are a good thing for
the club,
the attitude of supporters or
the preception of our club by the opposition? How about the perception of our club in the media, improved by his comments? If you can't find ANY positives & can't properly address any of those points would it not be better for everyone concerned if he stopped fucking whinging about his problems & said something positive instead?
The fans are a different matter because all we want to hear is good news and reassurance. We need reassurance because we are terrified its all going to go tits and people will be back to laughing at us. The fans are pretty much a basket case
and any hint, sign, statement that things are a bit tough and we go into meltdown mode and we project that onto the players.
I doubt if Mancini fully understands this and I hope he doesn't because the last thing we need is the manager becoming a basket case along with the rest of us.
So basically you seem to agree that this negative shite has an undesirable effect but because it's Mancini & he can have no faults, rather than agreeing with me that he should cut it out, you choose the option of hoping he never realises it's having a negative effect. And you think that's a normal & even handed view & I'm the one who's taking an extreme position?
I suppose that's the nearest you're going to get to answering the question of whether it helps us. At long last though, even you admit it's counter productive, but your opinion is that you don't care as Bob's mental state is all that matters to you & you prefer he remains ignorant of the fact. That's a very very weird attitude but fair enough; why did you bother arguing in the 1st place though? Could have saved us both a lot of typing.
Btw, seeing as you brought up Baconface; when Ferguson whinges about too many games etc, don't we ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL see it as a sign that Utd have problems & are vulnerable? Aren't we often right? Won't we say it again if he starts it now?
P.S. Intresting listening to Rafa tonight pre match btw. He said the Madrid press are trying to spread stories saying that Barca are tired. I wonder why they would do that ? If it was us, they could just ask the manager of course.