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Re: Suarez

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:53 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.


Quoted a fourth time for posterity.


Excellent


I'd be very quiet if I were you, maybe GG got the info wrong, but I seem to recall someone outraged over interpreting the correct information wrong. He can claim to be in the dark, you don't even have the faintest shadow to hide in from your stupidity.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:15 pm

dazby wrote:So you want to play with 2 def mids and 4 strikers? How xpert eleven of you.

Amazing how people put words in your mouth.
I never said that, I'd play two centre mids, Silva and Suarez on the wings and Tevez and Dzeko/Balotelli upfront.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:09 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
dazby wrote:So you want to play with 2 def mids and 4 strikers? How xpert eleven of you.

Amazing how people put words in your mouth.
I never said that, I'd play two centre mids, Silva and Suarez on the wings and Tevez and Dzeko/Balotelli upfront.


Tbf we could play like that if we had two exceptional centre mids & the strikers would track back. With our current slow one dimensional centre mids, we may struggle quite a lot against many teams though.

I've been saying all along that even Nige (much as I love him) isn't ideal for what we want. We want two fantastic up & down, allround brilliant midfielders imo. K**ne, or Robson, Bell, even Paul In*e at his peak, players who can sprint back when you're in trouble or sprint forward when you attack. Those kind of players enable you to do pretty much what you like, add a defesive or attacking player to the pair depending on the oppo. Not seen one anywhere though. I presume that's what people think Rodwell & Henderson will be like in the future & also Milner. Milner has the engine but not the pace but perhaps he can be just quick enough to do it one day.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Original Dub » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:52 pm

Slim wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.


Quoted a fourth time for posterity.


Excellent


I'd be very quiet if I were you, maybe GG got the info wrong, but I seem to recall someone outraged over interpreting the correct information wrong. He can claim to be in the dark, you don't even have the faintest shadow to hide in from your stupidity.


No, you're just too much of a stupid cunt to completely miss the whole point of that odds thread. I may have said that Chelsea were further out than us for top four, when in fact it was the other way round, but the main point was that Chelsea were 12/1 and City were 80/1 to win the title and we're ahead of them.

You didn't understand it either clearly, because all you did was pick out a smaller point that I got wrong.

Also, it was kind of important to note that in my OP I said I didn't understand betting all that well.

PS You think Silva is a bit shit.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:07 pm

Agree with Ted. The problem is we have to many centre mdifielders doing the same job. Barry and Dejong as good as they are are sideways passers. And Vieira is a sideways passer. Against Wigan Vieira and Barry were virtually doing the same job, we only need one of them. We definitely need an attacking threat from midfield. Someone like Gerrard or Lampard or even Fabregas, we need a driving force and an engine and we simply don't have one.
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Re: Suarez

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:22 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.


Quoted a fourth time for posterity.


Excellent


Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.


Quoted a fourth time for posterity.


King Kev wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.

Oh dear.


Oh please, if that was his goal then the dubious goals panel is a waste of time, it was an OG. It's pathetic that people credit him with that goal.
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Re: Suarez

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:41 pm

Oh please, if that was his goal then the dubious goals panel is a waste of time, it was an OG. It's pathetic that people credit him with that goal.

I'd admit defeat mate, it was clearly right to award Suarez that goal.

Regardless he's been fantastic so far, it doesn't matter if he'd scored or not. Not that a player should be chastised for not scoring in his first four games.

Also, some of the bickering in this topic is weird.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:47 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Agree with Ted. The problem is we have to many centre mdifielders doing the same job. Barry and Dejong as good as they are are sideways passers. And Vieira is a sideways passer. Against Wigan Vieira and Barry were virtually doing the same job, we only need one of them. We definitely need an attacking threat from midfield. Someone like Gerrard or Lampard or even Fabregas, we need a driving force and an engine and we simply don't have one.



Have you seen one we could sign though? I'm sure there'll be one out there somewhere but I haven't seen anyone that fits the description we're talking about.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:55 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Slim wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:Quite alot of praise for a striker that hasn't even scored yet.


Quoted a fourth time for posterity.


Excellent


I'd be very quiet if I were you, maybe GG got the info wrong, but I seem to recall someone outraged over interpreting the correct information wrong. He can claim to be in the dark, you don't even have the faintest shadow to hide in from your stupidity.


No, you're just too much of a stupid cunt to completely miss the whole point of that odds thread. I may have said that Chelsea were further out than us for top four, when in fact it was the other way round, but the main point was that Chelsea were 12/1 and City were 80/1 to win the title and we're ahead of them.

You didn't understand it either clearly, because all you did was pick out a smaller point that I got wrong.

Also, it was kind of important to note that in my OP I said I didn't understand betting all that well.

PS You think Silva is a bit shit.


Original Dub wrote:Its a funny old game, this betting lark....

Chelsea were waaay behind us before they played last night. Since their result, they have gone from an average of 25/1 for the title, down to less than half that, with an average of 12/1. And because of last night's result our odds have more than doubled from around 33/1 to as high as 80/1.

So Chelsea are 12/1 and City are 80/1 to win the title. And we're two points ahead. I'm not an expert on this and I know the run in comes into play, along with experience, but 12/1 v 80/1???

Your thoughts on that please?!

Also, in the race for top four:

City average 1/4
Chelsea average 1/7
Spurs average 11/10

Now I know that's tight betweent he three teams and rightly so, but how in God's name are we favourites for top four ahead of Chelsea, yet their odds of WINNING the league are almost 8 TIMES GREATER than us?


a) Where did you say you don't understand betting?(Apart from being self evident)
b) Niggling point, invoking god's name over a point you got backwards?
c) Stupid cunt? Yes, you are.(also self evident) Sadly if a stupid cunt has an opinion that I am a stupid cunt, how can you take his word for it, he's a stupid cunt.
d) Silva was a fishing expedition and if you had a longer attention span than a stupid cunt with ADD, you would have seen that.
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Re: Suarez

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:19 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Have you seen one we could sign though? I'm sure there'll be one out there somewhere but I haven't seen anyone that fits the description we're talking about.

Well there's always Xavi or Iniesta...but speaking of realistic targets I think Hamsik from Napoli could be a good shout. He can't be any worse of what we already have anyway. Pastore looked good last season and at the start of this one but has faded quite a bit lately.

Then there's Gourcouff but I doubt Lyon would sell him and he's mostly unproven out of France, although he didn't do bad in the CL. Can't think fo anyone else right now, tbh.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Dameerto » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:14 am

There's Eden Hazard too, people keep going nuts over him (though I haven't seen too much of him myself) - plus he's a young Belgian which would fit in with our secret master plan to turn Belgium into the world's best team within five years.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Original Dub » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:52 pm

Good man Slim - "Silva was a fishing expedition" was he?

Well maybe you're not the only fisherman on the lake.

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Re: Suarez

Postby Slim » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:54 pm

Original Dub wrote:Good man Slim - "Silva was a fishing expedition" was he?

Well maybe you're not the only fisherman on the lake.

CHOMP.


Nice hindsight claim stupid cunt.
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Re: Suarez

Postby mr_nool » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:56 pm

Slim, have you been having a House M.D. marathon again?
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Re: Suarez

Postby Original Dub » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:57 pm

Slim wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Good man Slim - "Silva was a fishing expedition" was he?

Well maybe you're not the only fisherman on the lake.

CHOMP.


Nice hindsight claim stupid cunt.


Tut tut, silly tart.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Slim » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:03 pm

mr_nool wrote:Slim, have you been having a House M.D. marathon again?


I love that show, fuck off.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Avalon » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:18 pm

Instead of Suarez, we could look at Neymar, Witsel, Hazard, Alexis Sanchez, Aguero. So many other players who have the same talent, if not more than Suarez and aren't a prick. Seriously. For years we have complained about Ronaldo's theatrics and here we are saying we should sign a player who has the same foul, selfish, rotten mind as Ronaldo? He scored 1 lucky goal and his swindle past three players might not have been a goal, considering Kuyt had players in his back.

As for a creative midfield, maybe Ganso is an idea. He's a highly rated Brazilian midfielder. Yeah yeah, we know how well Brazilians do in the EPL, but he's at least worth a look. A creative attacking midfielder and a great passer.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:48 pm

Dzeko better than suarez? Yeah fucking right.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Original Dub » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:06 pm

Oh lord this is still going on???

Suarez looks a very good player, but not as good as Silva or Tevez, which is who he would have been replacing. Dzeko needs a fast strike partner (who enjoys playing football), a left winger that plays on the LEFT FUCKING WING and a right winger that plays on the RIGHT FUCKING WING and he will score just like he did in Germany and for his country.

Writing him off is fucking laughable when he's been told to play up front on his own and we play a fantastic left winger on the right so that he can't cross a ball in because he's on his bad foot... and we play with no right winger at all.

Its quite simple really - if you play a striker whose main weakness is speed, then you need to compliment him with great delivery in key areas.

Liverpool helped Andy Carrol with crosses today and I have little doubt had the ball gone to Dzeko the same way it did to Carroll, he'd have finished both just as well. The two goals he scored in the cup were quality finishes not unlike Carroll's first and that is because he was given the ball in the box. Also, no Silva means you have a slower forward dropping deep which basically takes him completely out of the game.

Dzeko will only come good when we play to his strengths, but he is a class striker, I have no doubt about that.
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Re: Suarez

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:34 pm

What would be wrong with playing Tevez,Silva and Suarez then? Farbetter than Tevez Silva Dzeko
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