The "Balanced" Thread

[KinkyKinkladze]

I'm glad somebody else has noticed Jarvis. He seems to constantly stay under the radar but he's been awesome this season. I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on him.

[gillie]

I'm glad somebody else has noticed Jarvis. He seems to constantly stay under the radar but he's been awesome this season. I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on him.

He is noticed coz he plays in a very bad team thats all.

[MaineRoadMemories]

Positive: I really do like our third strip!

Negative: It won't be played in next season :-(

[Dronny]

Adios chaps.

Don't be a soft cunt Manxy, don't take it personally, you know how emotions run on here after games.

[Ted Hughes]

I'm glad somebody else has noticed Jarvis. He seems to constantly stay under the radar but he's been awesome this season. I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on him.

He is noticed coz he plays in a very bad team thats all.

Not a world beater but delivers a better ball than anyone at our club imo. Dzeko would score more goals for Wolves than he currently does for us.

[halnone]

Back 3 played well,Lescott especiallylooks strong,commanding and vocal.
Nige,all action effort again.
Milner as above.
Dzeko tried his best but pissing in the wind with no support.
Silva tried but again had no support or an outlet.
Barry was Barry

Yaya,kolarov and Balo are shocking.

He barely played at all today! You can't criticise a player when he barely played 10 minutes.
Mancini should have started another striker. fuck it, even Jo would have been better than all of the defensive midfielders we have.

[Manx Blue]

Apologies for abusing people on here tonight. I just can't see sense in whinging whe we compare how our club is doing with Tsunamis and conflicts.

What's been has been... We have to look forward. Once again I apologse to this I took my frustrations out on...

Ps...Mancini stays. ;)

[Ted Hughes]

Back 3 played well,Lescott especiallylooks strong,commanding and vocal.
Nige,all action effort again.
Milner as above.
Dzeko tried his best but pissing in the wind with no support.
Silva tried but again had no support or an outlet.
Barry was Barry

Yaya,kolarov and Balo are shocking.

He barely played at all today! You can't criticise a player when he barely played 10 minutes.
Mancini should have started another striker. fuck it, even Jo would have been better than all of the defensive midfielders we have.

He looked decidedly lacking in 'beans' to me when he came on though & I was hoping he'd be full of them. As you say, not fair to criticise him but I was hoping for some 'up & at 'em' type body language from him, to give an indication of things to come & a new attitude. Didn't see it.

[The Original Special One]

lescott is really starting to blossom these last five or six games he's been great and today was no exception. if we are going to play 'cantenaccio' we need to work very hard on our counter attacking which is really lacking, imo because there are two many defensive minded midfielders who you need to bomb forward when the wingers have the ball.

although to be fair Lescott did get wrongfooted for their second goal.

But Micah Richards didn't need to make that challenge
against a central defender, ferChissakes!!!
and he didn't play well today

[Ted Hughes]

lescott is really starting to blossom these last five or six games he's been great and today was no exception. if we are going to play 'cantenaccio' we need to work very hard on our counter attacking which is really lacking, imo because there are two many defensive minded midfielders who you need to bomb forward when the wingers have the ball.

although to be fair Lescott did get wrongfooted for their second goal.

But Micah Richards didn't need to make that challenge
against a central defender, ferChissakes!!!
and he didn't play well today

Barely touched him though. As soon as Drogba came on, the plan was to chuck themselves over & bomb in free kicks.

[Im_Spartacus]

It's quite simple... Those cunts who don't want to get behind the manager and team, leave the fucking Wembley tickets to those who want to go, stay at home and watch the '99 playoff DVD.... Or better still fuck off and watch the '99 treble DVD you bunch of fucking lemmings.

Some of you make me sick, yes we lost. The aim of the season was to finish 4th. How many players have been missing at times? We were 15 minutes from saying that was a good away point gained.

Finally, how many clubs would love to be in our position? Plymouth argyle for one, who we played regularly 20 years or so ago. So the football might not be what you want... But just deal with it.

Dont be such a fucking prick

You can sit there and fucking happy clap whilst we yet again turn out a load of fucking shite for the umpteenth time this season, and you can say, "You should support them because they are City".

Well you know what, I fucking do support them, I just got back from there today, I was there last Sunday and I was there on Thursday, and that fucking cunt Mancini is taking the fucking piss out of me, and the people who take the time and expense to watch our club.

Bury, Rochdale, Macclesfield would love to be in our position, but they fucking arent because they dont have one of the best squads in the world. City of old would have loved to be in our position, but what the fuck are you thinking when you seem to suggest that we should accept this cunts fucking ridiculous tactics, just because we have been fortunate enough to be taken over. Fucking bollocks - its nothing to do with the money we have spent, it is everything to do with the quality of our squad. We have arguably the 3rd best squad for attacking football in the world, yet we play today and dont get a single shot.

You keep fucking sucking his dick, but I have had a fucking tit-ful week in week out.

Dont you fucking dare patronise me by telling me we were 15 minutes from a draw. We lost the game. 15 minutes from drawing is therefore completely irrelevant

GO NOW

[Manx Blue]

Spartacus we all support the club. I'm sure we all wanted Pearce, Sven, Hughes whoever to be the man to break the Cycle, to get us back to winning trophies and competing at the highest level.

Calling for mancini's head now is going to solve fuck all. Who is immediately available to take over... Or do you want David Platt in charge for the remainder of the season?

[The Man In Blue]

Or do you want David Platt in charge for the remainder of the season?

Imagine the reactions on here to that, fuck me. The site would crash.

[Manx Blue]

Or do you want David Platt in charge for the remainder of the season?

Imagine the reactions on here to that, fuck me. The site would crash.

My point exactly....who else is available? Oh yes....'Martin O'Neill. It's alright shouting Mancini out, but who is his replacement?

Collectively we should be careful of what we wish for, because we might just see Mancini get the push before the end of the season, and miss CL and lose in the semi of the FA Cup.

We've got some time off, and im sure the coaching staff will have a chat with the club hierarchy, and be told we have to pull our fingers out.

[The Man In Blue]

I just thought it would be funny, imagine NQDP's posts.

[ronk]

...

Bury, Rochdale, Macclesfield would love to be in our position, but they fucking arent because they dont have one of the best squads in the world. City of old would have loved to be in our position...

And yet we're not happy.

We lost away to Chelsea, who themselves spent £50m on Torres, £18m on Ramires, £21m on Luiz to add to a squad that's been consistently challenging for the prem and CL. We're still building, yes our form hasn't been great this last few weeks and it's easy to be stressed about it, but we've also been playing some good football.

[john68]

Positives: I didn't expect us to win.

Negatives: We didn't win.

Reality: Both of the above.

[Fesan]

I think there is a few general misconceptions that needs to be cleared up, most people are not mad because we lost, they are mad because we could never have won. I think the majority of us would accept Mancini's style if it for one looked like he knew what he was doing and changed style based on players and/or opposition OR actually won most matches and esp. the important ones.

Secondly I think most of us agrees that sacking him now is no option, and if we did we would not get someone new in untill the summer. Kidd would prob. be in charge if he left now, which he won't. Most of the people wanting him to go are talking about a summer exit.

As it is now we are loosing, he looks like he has no idea what is going on and NEVER changes style nomatter the players or opposition. We played defensively and lost deservidely in Kiev then we played alittle more freely at times at home and looked like winning 4-0. Why oh why do we not play like that more often when we all know we can?

There is also the fact that I think most of us would accept these results and maybe also bad games here and there if it actually looked like we were getting better. But the fact of the matter is that since the start of the season we are looking worse and worse. We had the odd stalemate game early on but would then win 4-0 the next game. Without checking the fixtures tab how many on here can actually remember the last good game we had where we scored 3+? I for one cannot recall the last game we played well and won deservidely with more than one goal. Kiev at home was decent but as I said in that thread, that kind of performance should be our norm!

We looked so promising at the start of the season, solid and able to score. Albiet too dependent on Tevez and alittle rocky at the back at times but we were hungry, we scored and most of our games were well played. Now we look like a sick dog ready to be put down.

After tonights game I thought to myself that I cannot find one reason to watch the game anymore except the fact that City is my team. Like many others have said I am filled more by worry and fear than exitement and joy when we play, does not matter if it is Chelsea away or Wigan at home I feel like we are gonna loose it each time because that is the way we are set up... to MAYBE win it with some luck.

City should not need luck, we should be set up to win each and every time. We should have a balanced team, we should have a manager able to change setup and tactics based on the players available and the opposing team. We should have a balanced squad with both pace, experience, youthly hunger, strength and creativity. So we can play wingers and Dzeko when we need to, or Silva and Balotelli/Tevez when that is the right aproach. Even our BIGGEST advantage before the season started (big squad) is no longer, how the hell did that happen?! All we could talk about before the season started were how good and safe we were at each position, good backup for all spots yet we looked far more tired than Chelsea who arguably has the smallest and oldest squad of all top teams. For all his talk about trusting youth and having a big squad Mancini has played the same 12-13 players most of the season and especially the last month.

Man alive I wish Mancini could be our guy but I gotta say the doubt I started having when "crunchtime" kicked in has just grown and grown and the tougher things get (and things do get tough in England from christmas to june) the more he has crumbled IMO. I've said it before and I'll repeat it here, I see no joy for us in Champs League with him unless something drastically changes. I said that what seems ages ago but is prob. just a few weeks and I gotta say we look even worse now than back then.

In many other aspects of life you gotta ride out the bad and then suddenly things change for the better and they change fast but I cannot remember this ever happening in football. There have always been visible good play but bad luck and/or inconsistency and then suddenly a team gel's (or whatever you wanna call it) and then they play good most of the time. We saw many glimmers of good play early on but we have just regressed and look worse by the match.

Just look at the football other teams play, look at how they create chances and play like a team. Look at how Redknapp turned Spurs around after the disaster that was manager before him. They turned on a dime, we've had years and look worse off. Try to imagine what some of the great managers out there could do with the awesome players we got. I mean if we got Hiddink in now (like he took over after disastrous Scolari) how many games do you think he'd need to have us playing great and winning? I am not saying he is a solution long term, just imagining the posibilities that lie dormant in this unit of players.

Two strikes so far IMO, we cannot afford another bad miss. So where do we place our trust?

- Mourinho? I would LOVE to have him swoop in this summer and win the premiership for us. I think he would make this side a winning one without spending a dime, although if he does come he will spend on atleast 3 players. The question is how much does he want to take over utd? If he does not have his heart set on that and is just looking for a great opportunity in general I think we can convince him with as much funds as any place else and the fact that he can build his own legacy here, he does not have to take over someone else's. With him at the helm and a few good years we could easily overtake utd as the biggest team in England if they have a few bad years. I think he's been around Europe now and is looking to settle, if he gets to do as he wants which he has not yet because most big clubs allready have someone in charge be it owner or General Director but we have owners who knows that football business is better left for the manager and directors who would probably let him run the show for the most part. I see it as a possibility that he comes and builds his legacy here, but alot of pieces have to fall the right way first.

On the other hand if he DOES have his heart set on utd then there is no reason to have him come in for a season, maybe two just to fuck off to utd and have the papers go crazy over it. Not worth it at all. So if that is the case then whom?

- I never even thought of him before but now I'd even take Martin O'neill. Might not have the man-management of stars ability (atleast not yet) but man could he squeeze some great results out of a Villa side without alot of cash.

- Owen Coyle, good manager but like Hughes better suited for a mid table team. Don't have the ability to manage stars IMO.

- Wenger, in a heartbeat but has made way too much money for the owners of Arsenal to ever get the sack. Only chance is if the russian takes over, then Wenger has said he'll walk.

- Redknapp, he is a piece of work but would make us a premiership contender within 6months. Not gonna leave Tottenham though, maybe we can get him after he's been England manager but that is way too far in the future.

- Probably alot of options in now employed nationalside managers but I don't have a clear overview to give good candidates from that market.

To me the question is not sack him now or not it is sack him in the summer or not... Answer? If we can get in someone with a proven record in the premiership at top level, sack Mancini (or make him defensive coordinator or something). If there is noone out there, we got no choice but to give him more time.

Good: The squad is starting to look great.

Bad: There is no clear cut option to make us reach our potential.

[Slim]

I want to clear up a misconception for you Fesan, reality is 99% of the people here probably only read the first line or so.

Sadly I read the whole thing and wished I was one of the 99%.

[Fesan]

I want to clear up a misconception for you Fesan, reality is 99% of the people here probably only read the first line or so.

Sadly I read the whole thing and wished I was one of the 99%.

Sadly your post gave 0% constructive feedback and 0% to the ongoing debate about our team:-(
Sadly not all of us can contribute such glimmering stuff as "We didn't win just like I thought we would'nt";-)

I know most people don't bother reading long posts but that is not going to stop me posting my mind, I am also only interested in hearing feedback on my thoughts from people who do invest more than 30 secs and are geniuinely interested in talking about City on a deeper level than "we are shit" or "utd suck" so long posts have the double effect of acting like a filter.

You read the whole thing so you clearly fall into the category of people I'd be interested in hearing from, unfortunately when it comes to posting you seem to fall into the 30 sec category. If you have thoughts to share that go deeper than "we are shit", "you are shit" or "that post was shit" then I'd love to hear it.