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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:28 pm

PoC wrote:Couldnt be arsed reading anything after the first sentence but i take it from your kneejerk reaction that you'll be going to wembley though?


To be honest if we hadn't of played Leicester City (twice) Notts County (twice) Aston Villa (reserves) and Reading none of us would be going to Wembley either this season :-p
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Kladze » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:36 pm

PoC wrote:Couldnt be arsed reading anything after the first sentence but i take it from your kneejerk reaction that you'll be going to wembley though?


Why is it always seen as "a knee jerk reaction"?

Some of us have been banging this drum for quite some time.

And enjoy your day at Wembley ......... I doubt you'll enjoy the actual game.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Dronny » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:42 pm

Kladze wrote:
PoC wrote:Couldnt be arsed reading anything after the first sentence but i take it from your kneejerk reaction that you'll be going to wembley though?


Why is it always seen as "a knee jerk reaction"?

Some of us have been banging this drum for quite some time.

And enjoy your day at Wembley ......... I doubt you'll enjoy the actual game.


Soz Kladze mate, that's the thing about City, by the semi we'll be fuclin unbeatable again and you know it mate
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:58 pm

Mark Hughes got 18 months,that was enough time for people to start the biggest manager witch hunt at our club.
Mancini has had 18 months and we are no better,this is the time Mancini should be proving shit not making people ready their pitch forks.
We have the players,we should be doing more.
Im not taking all the blue tinted,you'll still be at Wembley though huh? bollocks it's starting to really piss me off now.
Bolton and Stoke are also in the FA Cup SEMI final and have spent peanuts to get there.
Mancini has achieved fuck all and should be doing a lot better.
Poor poor poor,Mancini is on VERY thin ice. IMHO.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby guv111 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:02 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:Mark Hughes got 18 months,that was enough time for people to start the biggest manager witch hunt at our club.
Mancini has had 18 months and we are no better,this is the time Mancini should be proving shit not making people ready their pitch forks.
We have the players,we should be doing more.

Poor poor poor,Mancini is on VERY thin ice. IMHO.


I'm ashamed of wanting Hughes out. I got my wish, and we are now officially shit. We've had one really good manager in the last 20 years (since Peter Reid was shamefully shown the door), and that arse Shinawatra sacked him.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Crossie » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:03 pm

When the performances dont match the quality of the players, its the manager to blame.

If the players dont like him, then its the manager that has to go.

Its not the fact that we are still 4th, semi final of FA cup, its the fact that we all know exactly what will happen. We were in virtually the exact same position last season, and Spurs started beating Arsenal at home and Chelsea away and also beat scum I think.

Small prayer of hope might be their distractions of Champs League this time round.

Mancini fucked it all some point just after xmas. It matches the time Balo came back and Dzeko came in. We had learnt to play with Tevez up on his own, Ade, even Jo on the left.

Dzeko and Balo upset the balance of the team, and looks to have maybe even upset some of the players. Balo is obviously a cunt, but seems ot have Mancini wiping his arse.

We don't think things the Italian/Mancini way here at Manchester City. We play to win, we bomb forward, we break, we play out on the wings, we go for it.

We do not play 3 defensive midfielders hoping for a 0-0
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby bernabias_right_boot » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:17 pm

I love this club.
I've stood or sat through some dross in my time - 10 home goals in a season was bad. Losing 1-0 to Middlesborough at home when their only shot on goal was from Richard Dunne (og)! Trevor Christie?????? Robert Hopkins!!!!!!
Now though, we have a huge opportunity of qualifyng for CL, getting to a Cup Final, maybe winning the PL soon. Unfortunately though, I can't see us doing it under Mancini.
I really cannot see the powers that be at eastlands suffering this shite for much longer.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby city72 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:26 pm

Again i feel sorry for the lads who have travelled to cockneyland to watch that shit, it was inevatable what was going to happen defend and hope to sneak a point, all the pundits have cottoned on to it & they all hate watching city play. With the big money signings we have made we should be the entertainers of the league.
Its so predictable we will lose the semi to a injury time goal & finish 5th in the league another season wasted.
Mancini will get sacked in the summer, Mourinhio will come in & ship out all mancinis shite (boateng/kolarov/yawn yawn/balloteli/djeko) and then spend £200 million on his own players.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Spurge » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:37 pm

guv111 wrote:
Patrick wrote:We just lost away from home at Chelsea, and had as much chance to win the game as they did for the majority of the game. My view, today was not bad at all. I'm not disrespecting your view, but mine is that we need to stick with a manager for a season or two and see if that works better than changing every time we have a poor run.


Seriously, I'm getting too old and knackered to wait and see if he gets any better. Sven's football was better, and so were his signings for far less money, and in those days we were happy to just finish in the top half of the table. Yes, Sven made mistakes, but not as huge as Mancini's. Any other club than City, Mancini would have bankrupted. He's been like a particularly stupid kid in a sweet shop. Sacking SGE was one of City's biggest mistakes of modern times, and Shinawatra's worst move. Our second worst mistake was hiring Mancini.


Some points....

1.Sven is now managing Leicester City via Mexico, Notts County and the Ivory Coast - a most unlikely quartet and has brought nothing to any of them in the short time spent at each. Hardly a record which suggests he is capable of taking any club of city's current stature to the next level

2. Mancini wouldn't have bankrupted another club as the funds wouldn't have been available to him unless the club wasn't managed correctly by it's chariman and board members - in which case they would be culpable not the manager (e.g. Portsmouth/Redknapp)

3. I think (as is often the case) many people were happy with those Mancini signed in the summer and Jan transfer windows - it's easy to call into question after the event on the back of a poor run of results.

In football nowadays time is too short, everyone wants to see success yesterday and modern day football is no longer living in a real world. It's big business of course and therefore perfect fodder for the media who like to magnify everything to the empth degree, particulalry TV and radio broadcasters such as Sky (breaking news used to be restricted to a world crisis but is now about the starting 11 for a sunday afternoon match aparrently), talkSPORT (a truly awful station) and five live/motd (BBC portay their reporting and coverage as squeaky clean and unbiassed hoping that most people are as stupid as they would like to think). Not to mention the newspaper journo's.

I for one never thought we would be nailed on for champs league, we are up against Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs - all are champs league quality, most (with the exception of Spurs) are consistent performers in this competition, all 3 have been recent finalists, so why should we come from nowwhere and displace them?

Spurs we can, more realistically benchmark ourselves against, not only in success, but equally and perhaps more importantly style of play. The difference? As much as I'm loath to admit it, Twitcher is the real difference and it probably comes down to his experience within the premier league which is vast when compared to Mancini. Redknapp is a good man manager and tactician and knows the English premier league at so many different levels that he is better placed to know how to win by playing good attacking football.

Mancini by contrast is still learning about the premier league, in what is little over a year at City, he is achieving in terms of league position and cups, about what I would expect of him at this stage. He brings a typically Italian approach to the premier league - what else can he do, as mentioned he has no premier league experience! Our owners and their advisors at City had to be aware of this surely!!

I'd rather see us win and play a more attack minded game, at tempo, but Rome really wasn't built in a day and Mancini will need time if he is to adapt his style and gain experience of what the premier league is all about and ultimately enjoy success at City. But time is something in short supply in the modern game, the vultures are likley to swoop in the summer and we could go two MORE steps backward as a club as we strive to take another huge step forwards.

That said Mancini will be a hero if we beat the rags in the semi final before becoming villlan and then sacked in May, after we've lost to Stoke or Bolton in the final. Those who have supported City long enough will know this is something we are all too capable of, irrespective of whoever is lucky enough to lead us out at Wembley on cup final day!
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby david yearsley » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:41 pm

Just don´t see any hope for this squad under Bob - getting rid now not an option but looking at the fixtures I think we´ll be lucky to get 13 points - 66 total - less than last season and probably not enough. Then he has to go. 5 wins and a draw should do it but where are 5 wins coming from in all seriousness atm? Poor purchases and lack of strike power and decent supply is deeply troubling and I just can´t understand how Mancini and his staff don´t seem able to identify these shortcomings. Most of our rivals have four good strikers to choose from while we have 2 and a half (if Balo is considered a striker). To rely on full backs to give us width and ammunition in the PL is frankly naive to put it mildly
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:41 pm

I think the face that he was about to bring on Boyata in a game where we hadn't managed a meaningful attack says it all about our Bobby.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:42 pm

he's got to go, but I'm not sure we could get rid now. For a start, we'd need to find someone to step in, which is easier said than done and there's the whole problem of getting everything to gel.

I said after the kiev game that at a couple of points the team seemed annoyed and forget their orders. When they did, they looked dangerous. If only Mancini would change his orders...
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:47 pm

I agree with all those points Spurge made & I admit to using hindsight to criticise some of Bob's signings (I for one was delighted when we signed Yaya, expecting him to be an 'up & down the pitch player with a great engine ..guffaw. I also thought Kolarov had pace hahahahahahahhaha eeh)

However, I'm not on several million quid a year & I've predicted quite a few of Bob's problems before they happened. That's not because I'm smart, it's because it was fucking obvious.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:48 pm

I am a 'stability merchant'. Always have been. But something about Mancini isn't right.
I discussed it with John68 at length and he presented a thoroughly sensible case for sticking with Bob. In return the best I could offer was 'a gut feeling'. Not forgetting the shameful CL place costing episode at Arsenal last season. That showed just how logic defying Mancni's mentality is. It hasn't changed and every time I think he might finally bring us out of our shell, he goes and pulls a master stroke like he did today.
As others have mentioned, I don't look forward to the game anymore. Last season I went to fifteen away games, this year, I've only ventured to Sunderland. I've missed more home games than any other season probably since my first season ticket in 1976. I didn't miss one in over ten years prior to Feb last year.
I've felt slightly strange about it, with the fact this is potentially going to be our most successful season in years, but there is little joy in it. I'm struggling to think of a game I've been to this year when I've thought, "that was great today". Top Four and FA Cup semi, I know I should be thrilled. But I'm simply not. And yes, it does feel like a chore to go on some days. It shouldn't be like this.
Not sure whether now is the right time to bin him, or whether that should be the end of the season, but if I woke up tomorrow to the news he'd been booted, I wouldn't be arsed.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:52 pm

Sacking him now would be utterly ridiculous & probably ensure we miss a cup final. Just as ridiculous as giving him the job in the 1st place with a semi final approaching. Now, as it should have been then, any decisions should be made after the season finishes.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Sacking him now would be utterly ridiculous & probably ensure we miss a cup final. Just as ridiculous as giving him the job in the 1st place with a semi final approaching. Now, as it should have been then, any decisions should be made after the season finishes.



What about the mystery 'new manager boost' teams often get for no apparent reason? That could be just enough to get us to limp over the line. Imagine a manager who let these team off the leash, how good could they be?
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Craig B » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:01 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Sacking him now would be utterly ridiculous & probably ensure we miss a cup final. Just as ridiculous as giving him the job in the 1st place with a semi final approaching. Now, as it should have been then, any decisions should be made after the season finishes.


Possibly but there's always a chance of us experiencing a touch of 'new manager syndrome' if we were to sack him now. In view of our results since Xmas, which are virtually relegation form, perhaps the added impetus of a new manager with new ideas might give these players the kick up the arse they need. As for who we'd get, well that's another story.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby 9secondlegend » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:06 pm

Spurge wrote:
guv111 wrote:
Patrick wrote:We just lost away from home at Chelsea, and had as much chance to win the game as they did for the majority of the game. My view, today was not bad at all. I'm not disrespecting your view, but mine is that we need to stick with a manager for a season or two and see if that works better than changing every time we have a poor run.


Seriously, I'm getting too old and knackered to wait and see if he gets any better. Sven's football was better, and so were his signings for far less money, and in those days we were happy to just finish in the top half of the table. Yes, Sven made mistakes, but not as huge as Mancini's. Any other club than City, Mancini would have bankrupted. He's been like a particularly stupid kid in a sweet shop. Sacking SGE was one of City's biggest mistakes of modern times, and Shinawatra's worst move. Our second worst mistake was hiring Mancini.


Some points....

1.Sven is now managing Leicester City via Mexico, Notts County and the Ivory Coast - a most unlikely quartet and has brought nothing to any of them in the short time spent at each. Hardly a record which suggests he is capable of taking any club of city's current stature to the next level

2. Mancini wouldn't have bankrupted another club as the funds wouldn't have been available to him unless the club wasn't managed correctly by it's chariman and board members - in which case they would be culpable not the manager (e.g. Portsmouth/Redknapp)

3. I think (as is often the case) many people were happy with those Mancini signed in the summer and Jan transfer windows - it's easy to call into question after the event on the back of a poor run of results.

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I for one never thought we would be nailed on for champs league, we are up against Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs - all are champs league quality, most (with the exception of Spurs) are consistent performers in this competition, all 3 have been recent finalists, so why should we come from nowwhere and displace them?

Spurs we can, more realistically benchmark ourselves against, not only in success, but equally and perhaps more importantly style of play. The difference? As much as I'm loath to admit it, Twitcher is the real difference and it probably comes down to his experience within the premier league which is vast when compared to Mancini. Redknapp is a good man manager and tactician and knows the English premier league at so many different levels that he is better placed to know how to win by playing good attacking football.

Mancini by contrast is still learning about the premier league, in what is little over a year at City, he is achieving in terms of league position and cups, about what I would expect of him at this stage. He brings a typically Italian approach to the premier league - what else can he do, as mentioned he has no premier league experience! Our owners and their advisors at City had to be aware of this surely!!

I'd rather see us win and play a more attack minded game, at tempo, but Rome really wasn't built in a day and Mancini will need time if he is to adapt his style and gain experience of what the premier league is all about and ultimately enjoy success at City. But time is something in short supply in the modern game, the vultures are likley to swoop in the summer and we could go two MORE steps backward as a club as we strive to take another huge step forwards.

That said Mancini will be a hero if we beat the rags in the semi final before becoming villlan and then sacked in May, after we've lost to Stoke or Bolton in the final. Those who have supported City long enough will know this is something we are all too capable of, irrespective of whoever is lucky enough to lead us out at Wembley on cup final day!

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we have a shit hot squad and a manager who is new to this country and is trying to get established.

for me i just dont fucking know wether this is accepatble ot not. the money spent says , no , we shpould be better but in reality it takes times....fuck me im pissed off today...........do we aceppct mediocracy or shouls we be world beaters...i just dont fucking know.......


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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:08 pm

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Sacking him now would be utterly ridiculous & probably ensure we miss a cup final. Just as ridiculous as giving him the job in the 1st place with a semi final approaching. Now, as it should have been then, any decisions should be made after the season finishes.



What about the mystery 'new manager boost' teams often get for no apparent reason? That could be just enough to get us to limp over the line. Imagine a manager who let these team off the leash, how good could they be?


We don't have anyone to let off the leash apart from Johnson & Tevez. Silva is already off it. The rest are all centre forwards & centre midfielders. Bob's built this & he's the best one to operate it. A new manager needs pace & width to work with imo.

Plus the future is more important; if Bob is to go, the next bloke has to be given a full contract, shit or bust imo not be under threat like Bob & Hughes. We have to decide whether Bob will learn from his mistakes or whether he's not up to it & it shouldn't just be a quick fix decision.
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Re: I actually want rid now

Postby Crossie » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:10 pm

Something I just thought of was if this squad of players can make it to 4th, and a FA cup final or semi atleast, then what would they be capable of if they were managed by someone they all liked, and someone who was attack minded?

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