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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:28 pm

bigblue wrote:You can see why he's been at 9 different clubs in his career. Just collect your wages and shut it


And when I realised we had signed him I thought No, when I see us as bad as we were on Sunday against a team with no pace a the back I now no how good he was and how we miss the pace.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:49 pm

Bellamy loved being at City & almost all of the City fans loved him, in spite of what you unrepresentative cunts on here say. He didn't want to go to fucking Cardiff, he chose Cardiff because he was being kicked out of City & we wouldn't let him go to a decent Premier League team, so he chose his boyhood club as the best available option.

He's basically had the last years of his career ruined by that Machiavellian cunt winding him up in order to give him an excuse to get rid of him. He chose the confrontation with Bellamy rather than the other way around, by changing his training methods; which were working. He wanted to show who was boss. Then this season he kisses Tevez' fucking arse when he asks for a transfer & pats Balotelli on the fucking arse for ruining our Euro challenge.

If I was Bellamy & had been forced out of a job I loved at that stage of my career, I'd never fucking shut up about it & I'd dance on the cunt's grave if he was sacked. Every fucking time City fucked up, I'd be in the press telling everyone what a wanker Mancini was. You lot said the only reason he didn't was because he's got a gagging order, didn't you? Remember? Well that's fucking bullshit isn't it? Clearly? So it was all lies wasn't it? He's chosen to keep quiet & not 'rock the boat' all season.

Anyone on here who says they'd just swallow it if they were in his position & say anything less critical of the manager than Bellamy has said is a total fucking liar imo. You'd never shut me up. I'd still be on his fucking case after I'd retired.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Dubciteh » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:57 pm

I read the article before coming on here and thought it was a great piece! he praises the club throughout and the fans!

He says hes manicni doesnt fancy him and thats his right as a manager, i took positivity out of it as opposed to him twisting the knife, id welcome him back in a flash...

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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby aaron bond » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:23 pm

Dubciteh wrote:I read the article before coming on here and thought it was a great piece! he praises the club throughout and the fans!

He says hes manicni doesnt fancy him and thats his right as a manager, i took positivity out of it as opposed to him twisting the knife, id welcome him back in a flash...

full article

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ma ... 16219.html


That's where I first read the article. I don't think he's said anything wrong at all. Pretty much all compliments about the club.

He's been a cunt for most of his career and is outspoken, but he generally was well-behaved at City, always came across well in the media and worked his socks off for the cause.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Chinners » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:37 pm

I read it while preparing today's B*ll*x ... he clearly loves City still and selective quotes only have been used in this thread ... I suggest a job in the media actually!!! Bellamy does very few interviews with the press which is why when he does, the full interview should be read/quoted imo
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:43 pm

He is honest, would have 10 of his interviews bitching about shit that pisses him off than one "izz normal" "izz difficult" bullshit interviews from Mancini.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:30 pm

I'd recall the twat and make him rot in the EDS.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Chinners » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:35 pm

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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby aaron bond » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:28 pm

the_georgian_genius wrote:I'd recall the twat and make him rot in the EDS.


Why? Because he gave an interview and praised City throughout the whole thing???

Bit unfair isn't it???
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:53 pm

aaron bond wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:I'd recall the twat and make him rot in the EDS.


Why? Because he gave an interview and praised City throughout the whole thing???

Bit unfair isn't it???


It is when he is disrespecting the manager whilst still getting paid by the club. What kind of a person praises two rival managers and at the same time disrespects the manager who was spot on to get rid.

Let him fuck off to Spurs where he can continue to suck twitchers dick, who cares? he is nearly 32, inconsistent and has dodgy knees and that is all before all this bullshit that alot of city fans continue to beleive.

"oh i am craig bellamy, i have never had a bad game for city, i am a hugely succesful footballer, so what if i have won one scottish cup in my entire career, it wasn't my fault, the dozen clubs i have been at didn't have the right managers at the time, i give my all and i show passion and desire, i shout at players make them feel like little kids because i have heart, desire, passion blah blah blah fucking blah"

He doesn't give a fuck about Manchester City or City fans so why do you all continue to be so naive and stupid to think that he does.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:11 pm

i love bellamy. i wish he was at the club.

Slim has a point about Pearce coming in and making a difference when he did.

Pearce in. Craig in. Let's have a go at the rest of the season and do something!

honestly, and i'm not fucking joking, Pearce would be having as much success with this side as Mancini is right now. Paul Jewell as well. Neil Warnock. Curbs. Pick any number of classically underachieving, allegedly, managers and we'd be where we are in the table.

MON? Moyes? who knows...maybe with one of them we'd actually be doing even better.

Starting to feel like sticking with Hughes as part of our growth plan would have done us wonders, and that fact is pissing me off a lot. Bellamy is just the millstone around Mancini's neck which best shows how he's unequipped to craft the roster. it's ridiculous as Ted and others have pointed out eloquently. And don't even get me started on Adebayor either.

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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby The Man In Blue » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:25 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Bellamy loved being at City & almost all of the City fans loved him, in spite of what you unrepresentative cunts on here say. He didn't want to go to fucking Cardiff, he chose Cardiff because he was being kicked out of City & we wouldn't let him go to a decent Premier League team, so he chose his boyhood club as the best available option.

He's basically had the last years of his career ruined by that Machiavellian cunt winding him up in order to give him an excuse to get rid of him. He chose the confrontation with Bellamy rather than the other way around, by changing his training methods; which were working. He wanted to show who was boss. Then this season he kisses Tevez' fucking arse when he asks for a transfer & pats Balotelli on the fucking arse for ruining our Euro challenge.

If I was Bellamy & had been forced out of a job I loved at that stage of my career, I'd never fucking shut up about it & I'd dance on the cunt's grave if he was sacked. Every fucking time City fucked up, I'd be in the press telling everyone what a wanker Mancini was. You lot said the only reason he didn't was because he's got a gagging order, didn't you? Remember? Well that's fucking bullshit isn't it? Clearly? So it was all lies wasn't it? He's chosen to keep quiet & not 'rock the boat' all season.

Anyone on here who says they'd just swallow it if they were in his position & say anything less critical of the manager than Bellamy has said is a total fucking liar imo. You'd never shut me up. I'd still be on his fucking case after I'd retired.


Brilliant post. Fucking spot on.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:49 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:i love bellamy. i wish he was at the club.

Slim has a point about Pearce coming in and making a difference when he did.

Pearce in. Craig in. Let's have a go at the rest of the season and do something!

honestly, and i'm not fucking joking, Pearce would be having as much success with this side as Mancini is right now. Paul Jewell as well. Neil Warnock. Curbs. Pick any number of classically underachieving, allegedly, managers and we'd be where we are in the table.

MON? Moyes? who knows...maybe with one of them we'd actually be doing even better.

Starting to feel like sticking with Hughes as part of our growth plan would have done us wonders, and that fact is pissing me off a lot. Bellamy is just the millstone around Mancini's neck which best shows how he's unequipped to craft the roster. it's ridiculous as Ted and others have pointed out eloquently. And don't even get me started on Adebayor either.

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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby ant london » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:06 pm

Serious question for you Georgian Genius

What is your appraisal of how Mancini currently has us playing

What do you think are the positives

And the negatives and....

How do you predict that our season will end?
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:23 pm

ant london wrote:Serious question for you Georgian Genius

What is your appraisal of how Mancini currently has us playing

What do you think are the positives

And the negatives and....

How do you predict that our season will end?


I think he is very very cautious with us, based on the fact that Champions League football is so vital to us. I think he would rather win scrappy slow games than play pretty fast flowing attacking football and lose a couple, but only this season.

I used to watch Inter Milan when he was in charged because they are my favourite non english team and i have been to see them a couple of times over the last decade so i have a bit of a soft spot for them and whenever i watched them i never saw them play boring football, they were an exciting pretty team to watch and he too was a creative flair player who played beautiful football.

It is because of the above that i don't think this is the kind of football we will be seeing under him if he is to stay for a while, i think if we were to get in the champions league he would release the shackles on his side and we would then see the team play this fast tempo game we all love to see and with the players we have i know it will be good to watch, we have seen potentially this season how good we can be.

Could we play fast flowing up tempo football with this side and get in the champions league? Without a doubt but that's his decision and if we get champions league football next year does anyone really care how we did it this season? Next season we should care but this season? Nah, lets get passed that hurdle first.

The positives, for one i like the players he has bought. Silva is different class, Yaya no matter what anyone says is a top player, Balotelli is unreal when he wants to be, Boateng has looked fantastic at Centre half even if he hasn't shown that form that often, Milner is a player every team in this league would love to have, the only one i have doubts about is Kolarov who at the minute looks a poor buy but as always i will give him time, next season is the best time to judge him properly and secondly, all top sides are built from the back and we look brilliant at the back, 2nd best defence in the league? Impressive that and more so when you take into account most of them are Hughes's boys who looked so clueless when he was in charge not to mention we could of had David Luiz if the board had not acted so slow and lost him to Chelsea.

The negatives, like i said above he is very cautious but in my mind that is temporary.

As for the rest of the season, i think we will finish 3rd, the FA Cup is a lottery, if we beat United i think we will win that which would mean this season we would of qualified for the champions league and won our first trophy in 35 years which would be fan fucking tastic. If we don't finish in the top four then i would have to have a long hard think if he should go or not and at the moment in my mind he probably would have to go.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby ant london » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:35 pm

Thanks for that....I actually don't fundamentally disagree with the vast majority of that.

I agree as to the why he's being so cautious but what I cannot understand is that his very risk aversion and cautious approach is in itself bloody risky. Taking the shackles off at some (appropriate) points this season would have, arguably, seen us not now looking nervously over our shoulders.

The issues I have with Mancini are his questionable judgement in not having the chutzpah to go for it and to have claimed those instances of 3 points in certain matches where we drew or let slip a lead. The fact that he can't see that by imposing his unwavering will on players (who then become disenfranchised when they could have been valuable) or us as fans (who equally become pissed off and on his back due to the "entertainment" and adventure and results) is actually counterproductive and puts him and his position at yet greater risk.

Those issues I just don't get

Thoughts?
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:45 pm

ant london wrote:Thanks for that....I actually don't fundamentally disagree with the vast majority of that.

I agree as to the why he's being so cautious but what I cannot understand is that his very risk aversion and cautious approach is in itself bloody risky. Taking the shackles off at some (appropriate) points this season would have, arguably, seen us not now looking nervously over our shoulders.

The issues I have with Mancini are his questionable judgement in not having the chutzpah to go for it and to have claimed those instances of 3 points in certain matches where we drew or let slip a lead. The fact that he can't see that by imposing his unwavering will on players (who then become disenfranchised when they could have been valuable) or us as fans (who equally become pissed off and on his back due to the "entertainment" and adventure and results) is actually counterproductive and puts him and his position at yet greater risk.

Those issues I just don't get

Thoughts?


History tells you that fortune favours the brave. How many times have United got last minute winners over the years or last minute goals to rescue a point? It would be interesting to see if they hadn't of got those goals would they have won as much as they have? They win the league more often than not under Fergie because they take risks when they need to and it pays off most of the time.

If Mancini will continue to take the route he is currently taking then he won't be successful here or anywhere else for that matter. You simply cannot win a 38 game competition playing like we are as you get left behind, the cups are different, we have seen teams over the years stumble their way to cups or put in fantastic defensive displays as the underdogs and take their chances when they come. You only have to look to everyones prefered Manchester City manager Jose Mourinho to see that this kind of approach can get you success in the cups if you are fortunate.

Put it this way, if we play like we have done this season - next season, then i won't be happy but i am prepared to see how that happens, it's not as if this is last chance saloon is it?
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Original Dub » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:16 pm

the_georgian_genius wrote:I'd recall the twat and make him rot in the EDS.


You'd recall one of the best players we've had in recent years and you'd put him in the reserves???

Its starting to make sense why you suck that fuckwit's cock so much, even though he's clearly boring the shite out of a huge amount of city fans by turning us into the slowest team in the league.

I really don't know why you love him so much, but its bound to have something to do with all your "I'll remind you how wrong you are about Mancini in the not too distant future" posts. Its hurting now because its all unravelling before everyone's eyes as it stands and you're known as the biggest supporter he has... besides his wife... I think??

I hope he gets us top four because not qualifying would not only be a massive blow in progress, it would push our better players towards the door... most of which I'm quite sure would have some kind of clause should we continue to fail to reach the top competition.

I want him to succeed, but all my early fears about the chap are coming true.

I suppose you could always bring this post up again when we win the treble and leave the world breathless with our play.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:27 pm

the_georgian_genius wrote:
ant london wrote:Thanks for that....I actually don't fundamentally disagree with the vast majority of that.

I agree as to the why he's being so cautious but what I cannot understand is that his very risk aversion and cautious approach is in itself bloody risky. Taking the shackles off at some (appropriate) points this season would have, arguably, seen us not now looking nervously over our shoulders.

The issues I have with Mancini are his questionable judgement in not having the chutzpah to go for it and to have claimed those instances of 3 points in certain matches where we drew or let slip a lead. The fact that he can't see that by imposing his unwavering will on players (who then become disenfranchised when they could have been valuable) or us as fans (who equally become pissed off and on his back due to the "entertainment" and adventure and results) is actually counterproductive and puts him and his position at yet greater risk.

Those issues I just don't get

Thoughts?


History tells you that fortune favours the brave. How many times have United got last minute winners over the years or last minute goals to rescue a point? It would be interesting to see if they hadn't of got those goals would they have won as much as they have? They win the league more often than not under Fergie because they take risks when they need to and it pays off most of the time.

If Mancini will continue to take the route he is currently taking then he won't be successful here or anywhere else for that matter. You simply cannot win a 38 game competition playing like we are as you get left behind, the cups are different, we have seen teams over the years stumble their way to cups or put in fantastic defensive displays as the underdogs and take their chances when they come. You only have to look to everyones prefered Manchester City manager Jose Mourinho to see that this kind of approach can get you success in the cups if you are fortunate.

Put it this way, if we play like we have done this season - next season, then i won't be happy but i am prepared to see how that happens, it's not as if this is last chance saloon is it?



Ignoring the rest but just thinking about the last sentence.If we play like we have done all season for the rest of THIS season we will not win a cup and will be very lucky to get 4th place ( on the back of Spurs failing more than us)

And maybe for Mancini the rest of this season ih his last chance saloon.
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Re: Craig's Says Mancio Doesn't Have The Gift

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:16 pm

Its in the mail so obviously its complete lies and bullshit.

You decide.

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