Mourinho at City

[Ted Hughes]

Mancini winning the FA Cup would not having me wanting him to stay. Sure, I want a cup, but so did Spurs when Ramos got them the Carling Cup.

Top four is a minimum, regardless of the FA Cup. Silverware is fantastic for fans who haven't won jack shit for years, but top four is THE minimum requirement for the owners and the future of this project.

Also, people seem to toss the entertainment factor to one side far too easily IMO. Fair enough, you all know at this stage that I'm for entertainment first and foremost - its why I got into football - but more importantly, our owners took the club over and want to turn it into the most successful club on the planet because they want to promote the fact that there's a lot to come from the middle east besides war and oil... whatever the actual reason is, they want City to be represented in the best possible light and us turning out sheer dross most of the time will not wash with them for very long.

They are not stupid and know that success takes time, as do most of us, but there is no hard rule that you must first play dross football to achieve this.

That's how I've always felt about it. I know I'm in a small minority but just the fact of winning trophies won't be enough for me in the long term. I want to enjoy watching City & I rarely do. I don't think it will suffice for the owner either, as you say. If we continue to be dull, it will actually breed more Utd fans than City fans around the world as they will become the swashbuckling heroes to battle our functional machine.

I can see a situation thouigh, where Mourinho will be offered the job (again) as much for his image as for his success record; a face to front the 'project'. I don't like that thought. In his latest interview he sounds as if he wants to put down roots in England but he certainly doesn't sound to me as if he's going to chuck in Real now, so by the time he's available Bob's contract may be coming to an end anyway & everything may be in place for him to choose between us & the rags.

I think, tbf though, Bob will try to play decent football next season, he has succeeded sometimes this season imo but my big question is whether he's capable of sustaining it. I'm 50/50 on that.

Interestingly Keys & Gray are just talking about Pep Guardiola likely coming to England. If it was up to me, I'd kick out Bob or Mourinho for him & leave him in charge, even if he won fuck all for his 1st five years. I don't give a fuck about the rest of it.

[Kladze]

Mourinho is Mancini with a better track record.

I want to see great football and with top notch players providing it the trophies can take care of themselves - Mourinho wouldn't give us that.

[Nigels Tackle]

pep guardiola please

[Rag_hater]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

[Renato_CTID]

He'll never accept to work at Eastlands because he knows very well how a big part of media dislike City!

[ant london]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

I actually agree with that.

His Chelsea side were clinical, they were efficient but they weren't boring IMO. Yes you had Makalele and then Essien breaking up and disrupting play but then you had electric counterattacks via the likes of Robben feeding Drogba.

Yes the fact that regular as clockwork Lampard would break into the box and drill the ball home was kind of predictable but if I was a Chelsea fan I think I would have found it anything but boring.

Boring for the rest of the PL as they won so often but I find United tedious in that sense. Doesn't mean they play boring football.

Mourinho's team have not, when I have seen them, churn out the kind of toothless one paced tedium I have seen us rock out way too often this season.

As others have said previously, stroking the ball about and controlling possession does not have to equate to dull anti-football (see Arsenal/Barcelona who do do this but then inject some change in pace from which come most chances) but under Mancini this season it often has.

Again I'm not saying that I want him out, I want stability but fuck me he has to up his game. If we just about squeak 4th serving up this dross I honestly think he might be a gonna. He needs to deliver the FA Cup and finish in style....or at least put down a marker at some point for what "his City" will actually look like for me.

[1950]

IIdeally I'd like to find a young, inspirational manager who grows with the club but for may own personal preference, that wouldn't have been Bob or any other Italian manager. I'd like City to be a cavallier attacking club & I would have happily sacrificed 5 years to build that.

André Villas Boas?

* ridiculously young
* beat Mourinho's unbeaten run at Porto
* plays attacking football
* his great-grandmother is from Stockport or sth

[OliverHardy]

Don`t want him. If watching Bobbys negative play riles people on here what will his do? Plus he`ll want to be bigger than the club.

I personally think that this is the EXACT thing we need in a manager, a real big head (but a big head with a bite to match his bark, someone who can DO great things), a manager who is bigger than EVERY SINGLE PLAYER at the club, a manager who actually wins things!

Besides, the below stats say EVERYTHING, how anyone cannot want this guy is beyond me

Porto (2002–2004)
• 2003 Primeira Liga
• 2003 Taça de Portugal
• 2003 UEFA Cup
• 2003 Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira
• 2004 Primeira Liga
• 2004 UEFA Champions League

Chelsea (2004–2007)
• 2005 FA Premier League
• 2005 League Cup
• 2005 FA Community Shield
• 2006 Premier League
• 2007 League Cup
• 2007 FA Cup

Internazionale (2008–2010)
• 2008 Supercoppa Italiana
• 2009 Serie A
• 2010 Serie A
• 2010 Coppa Italia
• 2010 UEFA Champions League

The Treble (League, Cup and European trophy)
• 2002–03 with Porto: League, Cup and UEFA Cup
• 2009–10 with Internazionale: League, Cup and UEFA Champions League

Individual
• Primeira Liga Manager of the Year (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
• Premier League Manager of the Year (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
• Premier League Manager of the Month (3): November 2004, January 2005, March 2007
• Serie A Manager of the Year (2): 2009, 2010
• Albo Panchina d'Oro Coach of the Year (1): 2010–2011
• UEFA Manager of the Year (2): 2002–03, 2003–04
• UEFA Team of the Year Coach of the Year (4): 2003, 2004, 2005, 2010
• BBC Sports Personality of the Year Coach Award (1): 2005
• La Gazzetta dello Sport Man of the Year (1): 2010 [76]
• Onze d'Or Best Coach (1): 2005
• FIFA Ballon d'Or Best Coach (1): 2010
• IFFHS World's Best Club Coach of the Year (3): 2004, 2005, 2010
• World Soccer Magazine World Manager of the Year (3): 2004, 2005, 2010
• International Sports Press Association Best Manager in the World (1): 2010 [77]
• CNID Best Portuguese Manager in Foreign Countries (2): 2008–09, 2009–10

As of 12 March 2011, Mourinho is on a run of 150 home league matches unbeaten: 38 (W36–D2) with Porto, 60 (W46–D14) with Chelsea, 38 (W29–D9) with Internazionale and 14 (W14-D0) with Real Madrid.
His last and only home league defeat came when Porto were defeated 3–2 by Beira-Mar on 23 February 2002.

[john68]

Sorry but I should have looked more closely...Is there an "I'm beyond fucking caring who comes in because as soon as he walks through the door, some fucker will find a reason to want him out." option?

[Tokyo Blue]

Interestingly what is missing from the report above is what else he said, i.e. this:

"I didn't want Chelsea-Inter, because last season it was difficult to play against Chelsea," he told BBC Radio 5. "I did it, and I did everything I could to help my team, but I was not comfortable. I don't like to play against my friends.

He's going back to Chelsea.

[Esky]

As of 12 March 2011, Mourinho is on a run of 150 home league matches unbeaten: 38 (W36–D2) with Porto, 60 (W46–D14) with Chelsea, 38 (W29–D9) with Internazionale and 14 (W14-D0) with Real Madrid.
His last and only home league defeat came when Porto were defeated 3–2 by Beira-Mar on 23 February 2002.

If he did come to us. I'm sure we'd manage to lose 0-2 to Stoke in his first game.

[Dameerto]

I certainly don't think that Mourinho has ruled City out as a destination, we're one of the few clubs in the world that could afford to buy out his Real contract in the summer AND give him what he wanted in a new contract. He knows he'd have the financial backing to do what he has done successfully at every other club he's been at: identify the backbone of the current squad and import the talent to build on it and flesh out a squad capable of moulding into a successful team. I also think that his next move to the UK will be to settle down, he has one major ambition in England, which is to win a quadruple (including a Champion's League title which he wasn't able to manage at Chelsea) after that, what is there left to achieve other than a lasting dynasty to rival that of the booze-sozzled red faced old git from Stretford? And what better place to do it than at a club capable of rewarding him for continued success without the club being priced out of keeping hold of him?

[Dubciteh]

id get him in at all costs, worse case scenario he only stays two years after winning a shitload of trophies? i can live with that, we need someone to put a rocket up our overpaid overhyped players....

[carl_feedthegoat]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

I actually agree with that.

His Chelsea side were clinical, they were efficient but they weren't boring IMO. Yes you had Makalele and then Essien breaking up and disrupting play but then you had electric counterattacks via the likes of Robben feeding Drogba.

Yes the fact that regular as clockwork Lampard would break into the box and drill the ball home was kind of predictable but if I was a Chelsea fan I think I would have found it anything but boring.

Boring for the rest of the PL as they won so often but I find United tedious in that sense. Doesn't mean they play boring football.

Mourinho's team have not, when I have seen them, churn out the kind of toothless one paced tedium I have seen us rock out way too often this season.

As others have said previously, stroking the ball about and controlling possession does not have to equate to dull anti-football (see Arsenal/Barcelona who do do this but then inject some change in pace from which come most chances) but under Mancini this season it often has.

Again I'm not saying that I want him out, I want stability but fuck me he has to up his game. If we just about squeak 4th serving up this dross I honestly think he might be a gonna. He needs to deliver the FA Cup and finish in style....or at least put down a marker at some point for what "his City" will actually look like for me.

The FA cup will not save him......its 4th or nothing and the way we are going we will only make it by a gnats bollock.

If Mourinho is boring(Do not agree ) then fuck me..what does that make Mancini..a fucking train spotter????
Anyone that doesn't want Mourinho managing us is blinkered beyond belief.

[Wooders]

amen to that carl old chum - couldn't have put it better myself

[Alioune DVToure]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

I actually agree with that.

His Chelsea side were clinical, they were efficient but they weren't boring IMO. Yes you had Makalele and then Essien breaking up and disrupting play but then you had electric counterattacks via the likes of Robben feeding Drogba.

Yes the fact that regular as clockwork Lampard would break into the box and drill the ball home was kind of predictable but if I was a Chelsea fan I think I would have found it anything but boring.

Boring for the rest of the PL as they won so often but I find United tedious in that sense. Doesn't mean they play boring football.

Mourinho's team have not, when I have seen them, churn out the kind of toothless one paced tedium I have seen us rock out way too often this season.

As others have said previously, stroking the ball about and controlling possession does not have to equate to dull anti-football (see Arsenal/Barcelona who do do this but then inject some change in pace from which come most chances) but under Mancini this season it often has.

Again I'm not saying that I want him out, I want stability but fuck me he has to up his game. If we just about squeak 4th serving up this dross I honestly think he might be a gonna. He needs to deliver the FA Cup and finish in style....or at least put down a marker at some point for what "his City" will actually look like for me.

The FA cup will not save him......its 4th or nothing and the way we are going we will only make it by a gnats bollock.

If Mourinho is boring(Do not agree ) then fuck me..what does that make Mancini..a fucking train spotter????
[highlight]Anyone that doesn't want Mourinho managing us is blinkered beyond belief.[/highlight]

I don't dispute that he's a good manager, but I don't want him because I don't want us to change managers AGAIN without good reason.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

I actually agree with that.

His Chelsea side were clinical, they were efficient but they weren't boring IMO. Yes you had Makalele and then Essien breaking up and disrupting play but then you had electric counterattacks via the likes of Robben feeding Drogba.

Yes the fact that regular as clockwork Lampard would break into the box and drill the ball home was kind of predictable but if I was a Chelsea fan I think I would have found it anything but boring.

Boring for the rest of the PL as they won so often but I find United tedious in that sense. Doesn't mean they play boring football.

Mourinho's team have not, when I have seen them, churn out the kind of toothless one paced tedium I have seen us rock out way too often this season.

As others have said previously, stroking the ball about and controlling possession does not have to equate to dull anti-football (see Arsenal/Barcelona who do do this but then inject some change in pace from which come most chances) but under Mancini this season it often has.

Again I'm not saying that I want him out, I want stability but fuck me he has to up his game. If we just about squeak 4th serving up this dross I honestly think he might be a gonna. He needs to deliver the FA Cup and finish in style....or at least put down a marker at some point for what "his City" will actually look like for me.

The FA cup will not save him......its 4th or nothing and the way we are going we will only make it by a gnats bollock.

If Mourinho is boring(Do not agree ) then fuck me..what does that make Mancini..a fucking train spotter????
[highlight]Anyone that doesn't want Mourinho managing us is blinkered beyond belief.[/highlight]

I don't dispute that he's a good manager, but I don't want him because I don't want us to change managers AGAIN without good reason.

Good manager ??? hes actually a great manager whose record is beyond dispute.

Here is what I think with regards Mancini managing City next year in the CL (If we get there and If he is still with us)...he will play the same shit against CL sides...scared to lose and will stay with the same tactics....I really am convinced that he will and for that belief I want him gone.

[Alioune DVToure]

I've seen Real about 6 or 7 times since Mourinho took over.Not every game but the ones I have seen have been far from boring.And the majority of Real fans haven't been bored by him either.I don't think this boring tag is fair meself.

I actually agree with that.

His Chelsea side were clinical, they were efficient but they weren't boring IMO. Yes you had Makalele and then Essien breaking up and disrupting play but then you had electric counterattacks via the likes of Robben feeding Drogba.

Yes the fact that regular as clockwork Lampard would break into the box and drill the ball home was kind of predictable but if I was a Chelsea fan I think I would have found it anything but boring.

Boring for the rest of the PL as they won so often but I find United tedious in that sense. Doesn't mean they play boring football.

Mourinho's team have not, when I have seen them, churn out the kind of toothless one paced tedium I have seen us rock out way too often this season.

As others have said previously, stroking the ball about and controlling possession does not have to equate to dull anti-football (see Arsenal/Barcelona who do do this but then inject some change in pace from which come most chances) but under Mancini this season it often has.

Again I'm not saying that I want him out, I want stability but fuck me he has to up his game. If we just about squeak 4th serving up this dross I honestly think he might be a gonna. He needs to deliver the FA Cup and finish in style....or at least put down a marker at some point for what "his City" will actually look like for me.

The FA cup will not save him......its 4th or nothing and the way we are going we will only make it by a gnats bollock.

If Mourinho is boring(Do not agree ) then fuck me..what does that make Mancini..a fucking train spotter????
[highlight]Anyone that doesn't want Mourinho managing us is blinkered beyond belief.[/highlight]

I don't dispute that he's a good manager, but I don't want him because I don't want us to change managers AGAIN without good reason.

Good manager ??? hes actually a great manager whose record is beyond dispute.

Here is what I think with regards Mancini managing City next year in the CL (If we get there and If he is still with us)...he will play the same shit against CL sides...scared to lose and will stay with the same tactics....I really am convinced that he will and for that belief I want him gone.

Yes a great manager. Mourinho, Bacon and (arguably) Guardiola are the best managers in the world. But so what?

I just want us to have a plan and stick to it. We've played a bit shit for the past month and a half but, all-in-all, we continue to make progress year-on-year.

I'm sick of the turnover of coaching, management and playing staff. We've got good players and all we need to do is give one manager the authority to sort them out by not imposing arbitrary targets and threatening him with the chop if he doesn't hit them.

[CityFanFromRome]

He'll never accept to work at Eastlands because he knows very well how a big part of media dislike City!

Doesn't matter, the media love him so they would not say a word against City if he were to become the manager. My biggest worry is how long he would stay, but if he wants to settle in England for good when he leaves Madrid, then by all means let's get him. At worst we will have a winning mentality installed into the club if he decides to leave and who comes after him will have an easier job of carrying on his work.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Plans get changed.......its a fact of life.

Are you that convinced that IF we make the CL (It will have to be the qualifying round if we do) Mancini will somehow change his tactics to how we play?
I personally would not like to gamble on that......Mourinho would not be a gamble....in fact the 2 cannot be compared..Mourinho is a million times better at managing and a million times better at Man managing than Mancini ever will.

Back to the original question..are you convinced and if so on what basis?