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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:54 am

Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby BadKompany » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:07 am

Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


Dzeko is an excellent player,i've seen enough to recognise he can be a real asset for us.

Silva aside,Mancini's other signings don't instill similar faith or confidence.Generally he has spent unwisely.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:57 am

BadKompany wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


Dzeko is an excellent player,i've seen enough to recognise he can be a real asset for us.

Silva aside,Mancini's other signings don't instill similar faith or confidence.Generally he has spent unwisely.


I have seen some of him on espn in european competitions, but bundesliga here is non-existant even though I have every damn channel. I am not quick to pull the trigger on him and think we won't see the best of him till next season, but it's the basics that are bothering me. Just because you are in the process of adjusting/gelling/etc doesn't mean your first touch becomes that of a hippo, I am also concerned that his decisions, while can be put down to lack of experience with his current team, the fact he doesn't recognise the shortfall and adjust accordingly make me think he isn't the brightest bulb in the shed.

Not enough to think he is a disaster, but enough to be concerned. And to think Antii was the one telling me he was worth it completely and then some before we bought him and I raised my concerns, you would think he would be on here backing up his opinion now.(However, I agree with him on van gaal...sadly)
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby zeljeznicar » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:01 am

Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


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If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:04 am

zeljeznicar wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


the best player in Wolfsburg history (with 24yr he is legend for this team)
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second top scorer - last qualification for World Cup
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If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!


I have add a fact to your list and only one of these stats means a damn thing to me, guess which one.

And Torres wasn't worth £50M and Carroll wasn't worth £35M. So by your logic, this also means Dzeko wasn't worth £27M. Thank you for backing up my point.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:13 am

So many people on here claimed Dzeko was a brilliant player before we signed him. How many of you had seen him play? I guess not nearly as many as made out.
He's done nothign to suggest he's worth 27 million yet and until he really puts in a top class performance against a big team, it will remain that way,
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Spurge » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:40 am

The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:42 am

Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?

We need him now though, we can't afford to wait a couple of years. Drogba despite taking time always showed promise.
Won't be long before we loan Dzeko out to a German club and end up selling him for half the price.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:06 am

Slim wrote:
zeljeznicar wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


the best player in Wolfsburg history (with 24yr he is legend for this team)
2 seasons top scorer in German bundesliga
brought title to Wolfsburg
played in Championleague
second top scorer - last qualification for World Cup
0 goals in 8 league appearances for City

If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!


I have add a fact to your list and only one of these stats means a damn thing to me, guess which one.

And Torres wasn't worth £50M and Carroll wasn't worth £35M. So by your logic, this also means Dzeko wasn't worth £27M. Thank you for backing up my point.


I think you're being too harsh on Eden mate. If you go by the prices shown above then he is a bargain as at least he's already scored a few goals for us whereas the other 2 much more expensive players have not scored at all yet.
And why do you care how much City paid for him ? Its not from yr pocket is it. These price tags mean nothing and I will only judge Eden after he's played a full season for us.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:11 am

Dubaimancityfan wrote:
Slim wrote:
zeljeznicar wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


the best player in Wolfsburg history (with 24yr he is legend for this team)
2 seasons top scorer in German bundesliga
brought title to Wolfsburg
played in Championleague
second top scorer - last qualification for World Cup
0 goals in 8 league appearances for City

If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!


I have add a fact to your list and only one of these stats means a damn thing to me, guess which one.

And Torres wasn't worth £50M and Carroll wasn't worth £35M. So by your logic, this also means Dzeko wasn't worth £27M. Thank you for backing up my point.


I think you're being too harsh on Eden mate. If you go by the prices shown above then he is a bargain as at least he's already scored a few goals for us whereas the other 2 much more expensive players have not scored at all yet.
And why do you care how much City paid for him ? Its not from yr pocket is it. These price tags mean nothing and I will only judge Eden after he's played a full season for us.

You seriously can't use the fact he scored against a relagtion threatened league 1 side and a Cypriot pub team to prove a point.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Spurge » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:14 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?

We need him now though, we can't afford to wait a couple of years. Drogba despite takign time always showed promise.
Won't be long before we loan Dzeko out to a German club and end up selling him for half the price.


If he's shit then lets get rid of him now then and minimise our striking options - yep sounds like a plan.

It doesn't matter if he cost £270k, £2.7m, £27m or £270m he's still the same person. These huge price tags we are paying don't guarantee anything in terms of the success of an individual or the success oftheteam.

We are not playing exciting football, so therefore we shoud all be very depressed. We are 4th in the prem and in a cup semi final so yes we should be pissed off and impatient.

When we were a struggling team there seemed to be a much more tolerant fan base, accepting, knowledgable etc. I'm not having a go at you personally Bridgey, perhaps it's following the many seasons of accepting City's situation as a team struggling to succeed that as we now begin to sniff success the desire to get over the finishing line is making us a little impatient. Thats what I'll put it down to for now at least.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:24 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?

We need him now though, we can't afford to wait a couple of years. Drogba despite taking time always showed promise.
Won't be long before we loan Dzeko out to a German club and end up selling him for half the price.

That's because we are impatient, and don't bother giving a lad a chance. He's been here what, two months? And already people is writing him off, FFS.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:29 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?

We need him now though, we can't afford to wait a couple of years. Drogba despite taking time always showed promise.
Won't be long before we loan Dzeko out to a German club and end up selling him for half the price.

That's because we are impatient, and don't bother giving a lad a chance. He's been here what, two months? And already people is writing him off, FFS.

I'm not writing him off. I'm saying he's been very poor so far. Which is true
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby bluej » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:34 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
CityFanFromRome wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?

We need him now though, we can't afford to wait a couple of years. Drogba despite taking time always showed promise.
Won't be long before we loan Dzeko out to a German club and end up selling him for half the price.

That's because we are impatient, and don't bother giving a lad a chance. He's been here what, two months? And already people is writing him off, FFS.

I'm not writing him off. I'm saying he's been very poor so far. Which is true


We've been poor as an entire team though, tbf.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:34 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Dubaimancityfan wrote:
Slim wrote:
zeljeznicar wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


the best player in Wolfsburg history (with 24yr he is legend for this team)
2 seasons top scorer in German bundesliga
brought title to Wolfsburg
played in Championleague
second top scorer - last qualification for World Cup
0 goals in 8 league appearances for City

If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!


I have add a fact to your list and only one of these stats means a damn thing to me, guess which one.

And Torres wasn't worth £50M and Carroll wasn't worth £35M. So by your logic, this also means Dzeko wasn't worth £27M. Thank you for backing up my point.


I think you're being too harsh on Eden mate. If you go by the prices shown above then he is a bargain as at least he's already scored a few goals for us whereas the other 2 much more expensive players have not scored at all yet.
And why do you care how much City paid for him ? Its not from yr pocket is it. These price tags mean nothing and I will only judge Eden after he's played a full season for us.

You seriously can't use the fact he scored against a relagtion threatened league 1 side and a Cypriot pub team to prove a point.


Yes, seriously ! A goal is a goal whether its against a top 4 team or a so called pub side (Greek not Cypriot !!). Tevez couldn't score against Aris although he played 100 minutes, so what does that make him !

And don't forget that it was Eden's goal at Notts County that earned us the draw and the replay. Otherwise we would not be now looking forward to the semi final at Wembley ! For that alone he has paid back some of the money spent on him.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby zeljeznicar » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:00 am

Slim wrote:
zeljeznicar wrote:
Slim wrote:Dzeko has done nothing to suggest he is worth £27M yet, he has however done plenty to suggest he isn't worth £27M.


the best player in Wolfsburg history (with 24yr he is legend for this team)
2 seasons top scorer in German bundesliga
brought title to Wolfsburg
played in Championleague
second top scorer - last qualification for World Cup
0 goals in 8 league appearances for City

If Torres worth £50M, Carrol £35M...Dzeko definitly worth £27M!

Try to find answers for players from the midfield!


I have add a fact to your list and only one of these stats means a damn thing to me, guess which one.

And Torres wasn't worth £50M and Carroll wasn't worth £35M. So by your logic, this also means Dzeko wasn't worth £27M. Thank you for backing up my point.


Calculate how much was paid midfielders whose primary target is to pass the ball to Dzeko.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:12 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:So many people on here claimed Dzeko was a brilliant player before we signed him. How many of you had seen him play? I guess not nearly as many as made out.
He's done nothign to suggest he's worth 27 million yet and until he really puts in a top class performance against a big team, it will remain that way,

He's the type of forward you need to feed though, and he's not had the biggest assistance from his teammates so far, has he? I think he's had the misfortune to arrive in our team when our form started to drop lower and lower.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:33 am

Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?


So many replies, let's start at the top. Did you see where I mentioned it was early days and we wouldn't see the best of him till next season? Or are you just more interested in outlandish comments that have no basis in reality? Reign it in and I will refrain from my usual vernacular, deal?

bluej wrote:We've been poor as an entire team though, tbf.


This is a fair point.

Dubaimancityfan wrote:I think you're being too harsh on Eden mate. If you go by the prices shown above then he is a bargain as at least he's already scored a few goals for us whereas the other 2 much more expensive players have not scored at all yet.
And why do you care how much City paid for him ? Its not from yr pocket is it. These price tags mean nothing and I will only judge Eden after he's played a full season for us.


No, but comparing him to other failures means that somewhere in the back of your mind, you are also leaning to the side of failure. Like I said to Spurge, not a writeoff, but not a lot yet to back up his pricetag. I am not going into how much I spend on City a season, but if it's not my money and therefore not your money, your comments in support of the player have as much weight as mine that aren't and both have an equal and valid place on a mcfc forum.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:34 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:So many people on here claimed Dzeko was a brilliant player before we signed him. How many of you had seen him play? I guess not nearly as many as made out.
He's done nothign to suggest he's worth 27 million yet and until he really puts in a top class performance against a big team, it will remain that way,

He's the type of forward you need to feed though, and he's not had the biggest assistance from his teammates so far, has he? I think he's had the misfortune to arrive in our team when our form started to drop lower and lower.


Or maybe it's not a coincidence....just sayin.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:04 am

Slim wrote:
Spurge wrote:The thing is it's still early days for him but sadly that seems to count for fook all nowadays. So on this basis we need a complete overhaul of the squad including management over the summer - lets rip the team up and take the club 2 huge steps backwards - yep thats the way to do it!

Drogba is all I can say - wasn't exactly an overnight success now was he - but became probably the best striker in the prem and pivotal to Chelseas success. Not saying Dzeko will make the same impact for us, but perhaps we should find out first beforee writing him off?


So many replies, let's start at the top. Did you see where I mentioned it was early days and we wouldn't see the best of him till next season? Or are you just more interested in outlandish comments that have no basis in reality? Reign it in and I will refrain from my usual vernacular, deal?

bluej wrote:We've been poor as an entire team though, tbf.


This is a fair point.

Dubaimancityfan wrote:I think you're being too harsh on Eden mate. If you go by the prices shown above then he is a bargain as at least he's already scored a few goals for us whereas the other 2 much more expensive players have not scored at all yet.
And why do you care how much City paid for him ? Its not from yr pocket is it. These price tags mean nothing and I will only judge Eden after he's played a full season for us.


No, but comparing him to other failures means that somewhere in the back of your mind, you are also leaning to the side of failure. Like I said to Spurge, not a writeoff, but not a lot yet to back up his pricetag. I am not going into how much I spend on City a season, but if it's not my money and therefore not your money, your comments in support of the player have as much weight as mine that aren't and both have an equal and valid place on a mcfc forum.


Calling Torres and Caroll failures is a bit far fetched. Like Dzeko, they are just settling in into a new team, although they have the advantage of PL experience. In the end, I think they will produce the goods they were bought for even though we all agree that they were overpriced.
My point about Dzeko and his price tag, is that its not fair that whenever he is mentioned, his price is also mentioned. What City paid for him is not his fault !
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