Bellamy

[Tokyo Blue]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go ... anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

Christ!

I think you're fucking retarded or something.
Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

you do stand out to me as one of the more slower of the posters on here, so I am ashamed of myself for getting into a debate about football with you. I should have known better.

This is "debate about football", is it?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, if Bellamy comes back to City next year, I hope he does well for us. Until then he is no concern of mine. In fact I have no wish to see any foreign teams playing in the top flight of English football so I hope Cardiff and Swansea fail miserably.

[Slim]

Meanwhile, back in the real world, if Bellamy comes back to City next year, I hope he does well for us. Until then he is no concern of mine. In fact I have no wish to see any foreign teams playing in the top flight of English football so I hope Cardiff and Swansea fail miserably.

I just don't see it TBH. I think it was a huge mistake to let him go in the first place, but I think it may be too much for him to come back into the side now. Probably his last good season was this one and wasted at Cardiff, but he certainly could have added another option to City and even in a sub role, he's a player who could freshen up the attack late on.

And of course, there is always the example of Dickov who all but ruined his reputation among City fans when he came back.

[sandman]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go without a replacement and anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

I totally agree with this statement. The rest is just you having another pointless tantrum over a player who has gone, fair do's we own him, but he's not playing here for a reason, whether you agree with it or not, i'm bored of hearing you crying on about it like a child, he's gone and when he comes back (if at all) he'll be 32 and still have crap knees and be another year older.

Oh you're bored are you? Its probably because of all the exciting points you raise and debate on the board... then I come along with such a silly point and ruin it on you.

And then again you belt off about the fact that IF/WHEN he comes back IN THE FUTURE. Where in my post did am I taling about the fact I want him IN THE FUTURE??

I think you're fucking retarded or something. The point was how he is sorely missed NOW!!! NOW!!! NOW!!!

Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

Yes, bored of listening to you on here talking bullshit 24/7 then spitting your dummy out like a 14 year old girl every time anybody doesnt agree with you. Isnt it funny how the pricks with biggest opinions are the ones from miles away who hardly ever attend the stadium like those of us who have had Season Tickets for years and years?

And you call me retarded because I point out the fact that you cant have him NOW NOW NOW, when his loan runs out, he probably wont come back, even if he does it will barely be a short term fix because he's nearly 32, he's not been playing top level football and his knees are fucked.

And i'll let you get back to your incessant bullshit, running up your post count with fucking what ifs and confrontation in an attempt to convince yourself that you're as big a blue as the rest of us despite the fact that if it wasnt for the fact that you'd picked the right team you'd be no better than a Cockney Munich. The fact is since you spend most of your life on here shows what a sad little bastard you really are.

Sad Sad Inbred Spunk Guzzler...


P.S. Westlife are shit!!

Haha did I hit a sore spot there?? The old "you're not from England" argument that comes out everytime you realise you haven't got the mental capacity to win a football argument. Where in God's name you got the idea I think I'm a "bigger blue" than anyone is beyond me. Maybe you think I am because its only your mind that that thought has crossed?

But you say I'm a sad bastard for "spending most of my life on here"? You could be insulting quite a lot of people with that statement... in actual fact I don't have a particularly large post count considering how many years I've been on this site I don't think?

Anyway, back to the lecture at hand - you do stand out to me as one of the more slower of the posters on here, so I am ashamed of myself for getting into a debate about football with you. I should have known better.

We'll agree to disagree for the sake of the thread. I say we could have done with Bellamy RIGHT NOW - he was our second best player only last season and it was a silly mistake to let him go without replacing him. You disagree and call me boring, childish and a dreamer for these views. Fine.

And Bros deserved all the success they got.

Woah there Paddy, I didnt play the "you're not from England" argument, You're not from Manchester, I was hoping to offend Scousers and Cockneys too.

You get your back up and call people retards etc everytime you realise you haven't got the mental capacity to win a football argument. The fact is you seem to think your opinion is the be all and end all yet you only see half a story on TV, those of us who actually attend see all that the camera's dont show and sky+ sorts out the rest.

And I couldnt give a flying fuck who i'm offending, you are a sad bastard for spending your entire life on here (and thanks for proving it with such a swift reply) I like this board, its great for what it is, I love to come on and read posters such as WW, Grob, KK and NQDP etc but I couldnt spend my entire life reading bollocks from tools like you?

I am not arguing that he WAS our second best player, but HE'S GONE... FFS how can you call anyone slow when you're the one still crying over someone who hasnt played here for about 9 months. We had a thread back then, get a fucking grip, its all about here and now, Bellamy isnt here, isnt likely to come back and even if he does it will probably be as big a let down as the SWP return.

[dazby]

Dub has a mental capacity?

[Original Dub]

It was a stupid stupid mistake to let him go ... anyone who thinks it was a great idea needs to go sit on the fucking stupid step until they cop on.

Christ!

I think you're fucking retarded or something.
Now, my apologies, I'll let you get back to your exciting posts that illuminate the board on an almost hourly basis.

Arse clown.

you do stand out to me as one of the more slower of the posters on here, so I am ashamed of myself for getting into a debate about football with you. I should have known better.

This is "debate about football", is it?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, if Bellamy comes back to City next year, I hope he does well for us. Until then he is no concern of mine. In fact I have no wish to see any foreign teams playing in the top flight of English football so I hope Cardiff and Swansea fail miserably.

You do follow me around quite a bit don't you?

It went from a football debate into this, if you had followed the thread.

Anyway, follow someone else, you're boring me... again. Your posts reek of depression. Lighten the fuck up chief.

[Original Dub]

Sandman-

We'll agree to disagree for the sake of the thread. I say we could have done with Bellamy RIGHT NOW - he was our second best player only last season and it was a silly mistake to let him go without replacing him. You disagree and call me boring, childish and a dreamer for these views. Fine. Hmmm... quite sure I said that about three times... weird.

The rest of your shit is just boring. I get over as often as I can afford, but its always a few times a season. It certainly doesn't mean I don't understand football.

The fact that you go to every match and see it "in the flesh", yet can't seem to grasp even the easiest concepts says it all.

You haven't a fucking clue about football. I reckon that stands out to everyone though. So keep attending every game and slapping yourself on the back because geographically, you have one up on me...

But you have very little understanding of the game of football. Well, that's what I think based on the garbage you've posted on here for years.

[mcfc1632]

This thread is much ado about nothing......

Most seem to agree:

1/ That we should not have let Bellers go out on loan but kept him in the squad

2/ There must have been reasons why the manager wanted his presence (disruption) elsewhere - and the club backed him

3/ With hindsight this was a bad decision (if avoidable) or Bellers was at fault for not being able to act the great squad player he could have been

What most(ish) seem to recognise is that on the basis of we are where we are (i.e. it is now nearly the end of this season - next year is his last before we would have to give him a new contract etc etc) - then notwithstanding the fact we should not have let him go in the first place - it is too late now ....would we bring him back now and give him a place for the last few games??? (well apart from the fact his loan term does not allow) - if not then would we expect to bring him back as a key player for nexr season???? - if not - what is this debate all about?????

Fact is we fucked up not having the option this season - whether that is down to Mancini being stupid or Bellers being gobby or whatever - it is history and it seems time to move on - all the angst just seems to be people venting

Calm down guys - life is too short

[sandman]

Sandman-

We'll agree to disagree for the sake of the thread. I say we could have done with Bellamy RIGHT NOW - he was our second best player only last season and it was a silly mistake to let him go without replacing him. You disagree and call me boring, childish and a dreamer for these views. Fine. Hmmm... quite sure I said that about three times... weird.

The rest of your shit is just boring. I get over as often as I can afford, but its always a few times a season. It certainly doesn't mean I don't understand football.

The fact that you go to every match and see it "in the flesh", yet can't seem to grasp even the easiest concepts says it all.

You haven't a fucking clue about football. I reckon that stands out to everyone though. So keep attending every game and slapping yourself on the back because geographically, you have one up on me...

But you have very little understanding of the game of football. Well, that's what I think based on the garbage you've posted on here for years.

Dougal-

I agree that we will have to agree to disagree, I am glad we're agreed on this agreement.

You say I haven't got a fucking clue about football but you're one of VERY few people I disagree with over it, and more often than not I turn out to be right in the end with my views on players and the game in general. I am not a knee jerker like many of you, I rarely get on at players unless they make the same repeated errors, I do not follow like a sheep with popular opinion based on just one or two results, I am usually more willing to give players a chance to prove themselves rather than abuse straight away, I even completely changed my view of Bellamy from the day we signed him, but I refuse to be the type of poster who constantly looks at the mistakes that the manager and club have made when they cannot be changed, I look to the future and what City need now is players who are here for the long term.

The club has had enough changes of personel over the last two years, everybody seems to agree that we have a group of awesome players that need time to gel, so I would prefer to let it rather than bring back a player who will need replacing anyway within 12 months.

Oh, and for the record, it is quite apparent that socially, geographically, and intelligently I have more than one up on you...

[Original Dub]

I sent you a PM on this already.

I think we could have done with Bellamy now and it was a huge mistake in letting him go. I don't want him back in the summer...

Ah fuck it, no worries mate.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I sent you a PM on this already.

I think we could have done with Bellamy now and it was a huge mistake in letting him go. I don't want him back in the summer...

Ah fuck it, no worries mate.

You pussy.

[john68]

There seems to be one point about Bellamy that everyone is missing.
Almost all season, we have played at one pace. Playing at a slow pace is fine as long as you can insert a change of pace or tempo when necessary. Apart from Tevez, that doesn't often happen. Bellamy may be only fit enoughto play a few games and only for short spells but he has the ability explode at defenses.

[carl_feedthegoat]

There seems to be one point about Bellamy that everyone is missing.
Almost all season, we have played at one pace. Playing at a slow pace is fine as long as you can insert a change of pace or tempo when necessary. Apart from Tevez, that doesn't often happen. Bellamy may be only fit enoughto play a few games and only for short spells but he has the ability explode at defenses.

We were one of the best teams at attacking on the break..... Mancini s fucking tactics changed for some bizzare fucking reason to lightning attack to snail paced midfield pass the fucking ball sideways, backwards and then pass backwards and sideways once again.

[john@staustell]

It was a team spirit thing - end of. If I was the manager and he had high-fived people like Rednapp and Moyes after they fucked us over I'd have killed the cunt. Let alone whatever happened in training.

How hard to understand is that? How many times the same threads?

[kinkylola]

Bellamy was good for us last season, and he could have chipped in this season as well. I don't think he would have changed results all that much for us, but that's just the thing ... no one knows. If bellamy comes back next season and actually wants to play and shut up I would not object at all. I think it's just as likely that bellamy comes back and refuses to cooperate with mancini on any level. Mancini got a lot of criticism for not being able to work with bellamy ... but I don't think it's hard to imagine that if bellamy makes up his mind not to cooperate with someone, than nothing can be done about it. If bellamy really cared about the club ... he would have buried the hatchet with mancini because mancini is the boss. But i guess he was standing up for his principles? whatever they are ... does anyone even know? I have absolutely no trouble believing that bellamy forced mancini's hand on this issue, and I can at least say that mancini handled it in a definitive manner. Bellamy strikes me as someone who needs to be handled with kiddy gloves because the slightest perceived insult to him will blow up into a huge moral stance.

There are more important things than how fast a player can run, the unity of a team and the dressing room atmosphere for one ... and from my (admittedly obscured) view of things ... I don't like how bellamy affects both unity and atmosphere. If bellamy would make an effort to change his ways, and make a contribution to the team as a whole, I would welcome him back gladly. If the last official action bellamy has as a city player is to pump harry's hand with a big grin on his face, I probably wouldn't say that's out of character for him anyway, and thanks for the 1 1/2 years of good effort on the field.

[Hazy2]

From a rag, Bellamy did something only KAKA.Ronaldo did in his 30 yrs at ragsville, he scared them, he has pace he has balls and he ripped past us.Just how a rag mate of mine sees it. For me a major mistake, The same sort of mistake Wenger has made with Gallas and not buying Shwarzer, you know it will come back to burn you. I still maintain with Bellamy we would have 12 more goals this season and we would have smashed Kiev no problem.

[john68]

This issue about Bellamy glad handing our rivals is abject nonsense.
Football supporting is an emotional business. We fans get involved and wound up about shit like Moyes and Twitchy but that's where it ends.
Players are employees of a club. Most started off supporting other clubs, some grow an affinity with one club and others arrive and just do the job. The vast majority have little or no emotional link with the club they play for and arrived and played, they disappear over the horizon to another club...who's fans then expect that player to become a fan of theirs...rubbish.

[Beefymcfc]

Bellamy should have been playing in Blue this season, no question about it. If he'd have been here I'm certain that at least the games we are seeing would've had a bit of spark, rather than some of the dull lifeless crab football that we've been served up.

Bellamy because he disagreed with the manager, Adebayor because he had something to say, Bridge because he had a niggling injury - all weakened our squad by going out on loan in my opinion.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Bellamy should have been playing in Blue this season, no question about it. If he'd have been here I'm certain that at least the games we are seeing would've had a bit of spark, rather than some of the dull lifeless crab football that we've been served up.

Bellamy because he disagreed with the manager, Adebayor because he had something to say, Bridge because he had a niggling injury - all weakened our squad by going out on loan in my opinion.

That's a good point actually, I guess at least a bit of drama would have been added to a lifeless affair for the supporters when after taking his 5th shot from half way Kolarov copped a spray of everyones fav angry Welshman.

[john@staustell]

This issue about Bellamy glad handing our rivals is abject nonsense.Football supporting is an emotional business. We fans get involved and wound up about shit like Moyes and Twitchy but that's where it ends.
Players are employees of a club. Most started off supporting other clubs, some grow an affinity with one club and others arrive and just do the job. The vast majority have little or no emotional link with the club they play for and arrived and played, they disappear over the horizon to another club...who's fans then expect that player to become a fan of theirs...rubbish.

Really John? Can't think of any other examples of players doing that offhand. I'd rather he hit one of his team mates with a golf club.

[john68]

Sorry John, I usually agree with most of what you post but on this I think we are miles apart.

I can only reiterate that we fans usually see football very differently from those actually involved in the industry. We fans have a long term and emotionally led commitment to our clubs. We tend to be blue, rationally blind, emotional and tribal whenever their are issues at stake.
For players and those involved in the game, it is a job to be done. Often they have an emotional involvement during the game but professionalism is usually their byeword. They may become upset about certain games, results or incidents and they may emotionally celebrate their team's successes but essentially when the game is over, it becomes a job...well paid, but a job nevertheless.

The football industry is quite small and close. Many of those involved with it have friends and people they know well and respect who are involved with other clubs. Maybe a good example is the fact that during the 60s. we city fans hated the rags with a passion bordering on violence (often including it), 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year. The city and rag's players would be having a beer together after a derby match and were the best of mates...no matter what went on on the pitch only a few hours before....and there was plenty that usually went on.