Mancini will change the team for Liverpool

[Silva's Pure Gold]

Yaya looked completely fucked after he scored his goal against Sunderland and was almost limping as everyone went to congratulate him. I suspect he'll be rested and Barry will come in for him. I'd also like to say what a credit to the club Khaldoon is. The guy has obviously got a good business head on his shoulders, he talks sense every time i've heard him speak and he isn't an arrogant limelight stealing fuckwit unlike other 'representatives' who are associated with our club (although to be fair they seem to have learned their lesson recently).

[Original Dub]

Completely agree with Carl. The same team that played againt Sunderland should start against Liverpool and I mean the EXACT same team.

Exactly!

If your team wins five nil, then you play the exact same team barring injuries. You reward great displays with a starting berth in the next game. Nobody was shite, nobody is tired/injured, then nobody gets dropped.

If there's three or four changes purely for "rotational reasons" and we don't beat Liverpool because we play that horrible stagnant way then there will be criticism on this board and those who don't like it can blame the guy in charge, instead of the people pointing it out.

Play the same team and way against Liverpool and I think not only will we beat them, we'll all but secure top four in the process.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

[avoidconfusion]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Never change a winning Team.

[Im_Spartacus]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Never change a winning Team.

Boyata did nothing worthy of being dropped, and provided far more attacking flair than Zabba

[Arjan Van Schotte]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Never change a winning Team.

sez who? ridiculous really - what if you had tevez, de jong and kompany coming back from injury for the semi after we've just beaten liverpool 1-0?

if we're going with cliches - i'd say pick your best XI.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Never change a winning Team.

Boyata did nothing worthy of being dropped, and provided far more attacking flair than Zabba

right - so boyata is now a better choice at RB than zabs.

i know football fans can have short memories but fuck me....

[carl_feedthegoat]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

I think Boyata is way fitter than Zabba who has been at his fathers bedside for the last 2 weeks mate.

Boyata showed us skills that we have not seen before......I say keep him in as Zabba will be too rusty imo.....and a rusty Zabba is 2 yellow cards waiting.

[Original Dub]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Yes, if players never got tired or injured I pretty much would. Obviously, you have to watch the team you're going to play and ensure you exploit their weaknesses and try to smother their threat, but I think if you've got a top team and you impose YOUR play on the opposition, then they will find it damn hard to combat it... or at least most will.

Playing only to suit the opposition and not impose your own style causes problems, particularly in the development IMO. And so far, I think Mancini's City have been guilty of this on a number of occasions.

Lastly, no, I wouldn't have Zabba in ahead of Boyata on Monday. I think Boyata looked assured on the ball and more confident with every passing minute. I don't think there's anyone that will cause him major problems on the wing in this game. If that becomes evident, then bring on Zabs to plug it.

If that all sounds like Glenn Hoddle, then fine, but tinkering without just cause, particularly for the last few games after your biggest win of the entire season seems a little bit silly to me.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

[Im_Spartacus]

OD - so you play the same team every week if they're winning until you lose and then you change it? sounds like some kind of glenn hoddle tactic. You really wouldn't have a fit zabba in for boyata?

Never change a winning Team.

Boyata did nothing worthy of being dropped, and provided far more attacking flair than Zabba

right - so boyata is now a better choice at RB than zabs.

i know football fans can have short memories but fuck me....

Where did I say that?

I think Zabaleta has been one of our stand out players this season. I just don't see how you would drop someone who has done nothing wrong, done everything asked of him, for someone who hasn't played or most likely trained at match intensity in a few weeks.

If anything I would put Zabba in ahead of Kolarov if h absolutely has to play

[Moonchesteri]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

I'm with you mate. People seem to think it was just all "Super City" on Sunday but they were SHIT.

[Original Dub]

Hold on hold on. I've heard this a few times - Sunderland we so shit, that's why we scored 5 and conceded none??

Make no fucking mistake about it - 5 nils are few and far between in the premier league. It happens when one team are at the TOP of their game and the other are shit.

Fact remains, overall, we were excellent and none of that team deserve dropping. To say that McGivern coming on was due to a weakness is absurd. He came on because of our strengths... because we were in cruise control.

[colonel_muck]

not joking i do not care about the liverpool game one bit. what is most important is playing the same starting eleven that trounced sunderland in the semi final against united. i would swap every player.

[Im_Spartacus]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

I'm with you mate. People seem to think it was just all "Super City" on Sunday but they were SHIT.

They were, but you can only beat what is in front of you.

Typical City fan reaction though - not even a consideration that our approach to the game made them rush into losing posession and make mistakes.

We have proved often enough this season that the opposition being shit does not necessarily mean we even win the game, let alone score 5

[Original Dub]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

I'm with you mate. People seem to think it was just all "Super City" on Sunday but they were SHIT.

They were, but you can only beat what is in front of you.

Typical City fan reaction though - not even a consideration that our approach to the game made them rush into losing posession and make mistakes.

We have proved often enough this season that the opposition being shit does not necessarily mean we even win the game, let alone score 5

Exactly John.

We have played worse sides and drew or lost. To say we weren't on the top of our game and we won 5 nil is silly.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

I'm with you mate. People seem to think it was just all "Super City" on Sunday but they were SHIT.

They were, but you can only beat what is in front of you.

Typical City fan reaction though - not even a consideration that our approach to the game made them rush into losing posession and make mistakes.

We have proved often enough this season that the opposition being shit does not necessarily mean we even win the game, let alone score 5

oh ffs. "typical city reaction". you've contradicted yourself so much there it's unbelieveable.

read the context of the thread - and then tell me that sunderland were actually ace. they were shite and we won - am pleased about that. but this thread is about whether we should keep this team for waht is currently an infinitely (currently) a better team. jesus.

[Original Dub]

Chill out there pal - sunderland were shite and we were class. hence FIVE NIL.

Does not take away from how well we played. the team should NOT be changed unless totally neccessary.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

Chill out there pal - sunderland were shite and we were class. hence FIVE NIL.

Does not take away from how well we played. the team should NOT be changed unless totally neccessary.

and that's where we disagree mate - for me - you change your team to play the best available XI - something that imVho bobby manc has consistently failed to do.

[Moonchesteri]

fair do's mate - but let's not forget that sunderland were absolute shite and we really shouldn't base anything on that performance.

lets not forget that boyata faced sessegnon who looked like dogshit, and anton ferdinand who is shite. bobby was so concerned about the right side he brought on a player i've never heard of to make his debut.

I'm with you mate. People seem to think it was just all "Super City" on Sunday but they were SHIT.

They were, but you can only beat what is in front of you.

Typical City fan reaction though - not even a consideration that our approach to the game made them rush into losing posession and make mistakes.

We have proved often enough this season that the opposition being shit does not necessarily mean we even win the game, let alone score 5

Exactly John.

We have played worse sides and drew or lost. To say we weren't on the top of our game and we won 5 nil is silly.

We did play well, make no mistake of that. Of course we did, and I enjoyed the performance A LOT. Especially in the beginning of the match. Then we took our foot off the gas a bit but were comfortable, and even more so in the 2nd half as the result suggests.

However. We were not tested. Boyata was not tested. Last time Boyata played in Prem he made a sillyish foul which led to a red card and was probably the biggest reason why we lost that day meanwhile his competitor has been one of the best performers of the season.
Zabba is one of the best professionals in this squad I reckon and I am sure he has trained in Argentina on his own. Of course Zabba himself, Mancini & other staff members are the ones who really how fit he is but if he is fully fit it would be imo just silly to play Boyata ahead of him.
Just like if our striker on Sunday had been Bradley Wright-Phillips and he had scored a hat-trick in the absence of Tevez, would you keep BWP in the squad instead of Tevez? I know I'd pick the best available player.