Is NDJ the most complete DM in the world?

[TheGOAT]

For me it goes like this:
Essien,
Xabi Alonso,
Alex Song,
Busquets,
Mascherano,
Yaya,
Khedira,
Barry,
Nigel
So for me in Yaya and Barry we have two players that can do his job better and on the whole for me there are quite a few better.

lol

I'd have to say that has convinced me.
Like the OP said he is the most complete DM in the world.Best there ever has been,best there ever will be.
I was obviously wrong and mad to even for a minute think otherwise.
If my foolishness makes people lol I must be so of the mark I can only ask people to forgive me for my idocy.
How I could think our Nige was anything but best is laughable but hey ho people make mistakes.

It actually did make me lol

[Wonderwall]

It is not something that everyone can do, its actually something that few can do very well.
Nige does this very well and I would like to bet there is not 1 prem league or la liga manager that would turn their noses up at him. You RH just cannot see the actual job he does

Doing a job well and being the best in the world in a position are two very different propositions.

I don't think he is the best at what he does, but he is good. On the other hand what he does is, in my opinion, limited.

We dont want him to be a flying winger
We dont want him to be a leaping salmon winning everything in the air

What I do want him to do is break up the oppositions flow, I want him to mark people out of the game, I want him to win us the ball back when we lose it, I want him to sit in front of and protect our back 4...... then after all this I want him to give it simple and let the others in the team that are there for their attacking strengths take it up the pitch.

He is missing the goals in his game when we are pushing on and dominating teams, apart from that, he absolutely spot on for me. He does the job that Mancini wants him to do, brilliantly.

[bigblue]

It is not something that everyone can do, its actually something that few can do very well.
Nige does this very well and I would like to bet there is not 1 prem league or la liga manager that would turn their noses up at him. You RH just cannot see the actual job he does

Doing a job well and being the best in the world in a position are two very different propositions.

I don't think he is the best at what he does, but he is good. On the other hand what he does is, in my opinion, limited.

We dont want him to be a flying winger
We dont want him to be a leaping salmon winning everything in the air

What I do want him to do is break up the oppositions flow, I want him to mark people out of the game, I want him to win us the ball back when we lose it, I want him to sit in front of and protect our back 4...... then after all this I want him to give it simple and let the others in the team that are there for their attacking strengths take it up the pitch.

He is missing the goals in his game when we are pushing on and dominating teams, apart from that, he absolutely spot on for me. He does the job that Mancini wants him to do, brilliantly.

I don't know why people expect goals from every position. Get attacking players who are good enough to score on a consistent basis and let the defending players stick to what they do best. Looking at the attacking talent in out team, there is no reason why De Jong should ever need to score a goal.

That said, I predict he scores the winner against the rags next week

[Tokyo Blue]

It is not something that everyone can do, its actually something that few can do very well.
Nige does this very well and I would like to bet there is not 1 prem league or la liga manager that would turn their noses up at him. You RH just cannot see the actual job he does

Doing a job well and being the best in the world in a position are two very different propositions.

I don't think he is the best at what he does, but he is good. On the other hand what he does is, in my opinion, limited.

We dont want him to be a flying winger
We dont want him to be a leaping salmon winning everything in the air

What I do want him to do is break up the oppositions flow, I want him to mark people out of the game, I want him to win us the ball back when we lose it, I want him to sit in front of and protect our back 4...... then after all this I want him to give it simple and let the others in the team that are there for their attacking strengths take it up the pitch.

He is missing the goals in his game when we are pushing on and dominating teams, apart from that, he absolutely spot on for me. He does the job that Mancini wants him to do, brilliantly.

Who said they want him to be a flying winger?

Perhaps I am being unreasonable expecting a midfielder to be able to pick out and play more than just "simple" passes.

[Rag_hater]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

[Wonderwall]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

getting bullshit from http://www.arsenal.com/usa/sh/first-tea ... andre-song does not justify your argument ffs.

Your not worth debating with as your stupid

[bigblue]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

getting bullshit from http://www.arsenal.com/usa/sh/first-tea ... andre-song does not justify your argument ffs.

Your not worth debating with as your stupid

*you're

[Rag_hater]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

getting bullshit from http://www.arsenal.com/usa/sh/first-tea ... andre-song does not justify your argument ffs.

Your not worth debating with as your stupid

So to hear others peoples view outside this forum is stupid?
Makes you narrow minded.
Whats bullshit about it?

[Im_Spartacus]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

Roy Kunt?

I know many have long suspected it, but I think this post confirms you are a fucking idiot.

[Im_Spartacus]

What is thought about Song:

In the past two seasons Alex has carved himself a niche as Arsenal's No 1 defensive midfielder.

Strong in the tackle, positionally aware and a good distributor of the ball, Alex is becoming a master at protecting his back four, breaking up opposition forays and initiating attacks.

Arsène Wenger's 4-3-3 formation allowed Alex to flourish last season in his preferred position behind the more attack-minded midfielders but his understated work didn't go unnoticed - 12.7 per cent of voters picked Alex as their Player of the Season in our official poll.

As for Khedira I only saw him really in the WC and a few times for Real so maybe our Nigel is better than him but not from what I have seen.But if he is good enough for Jose on this I agree with his judgement.

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.
Who can tackle like Nigel? What with studs up and occaisionally braking legs.Not many I hope but tackling to play football.Many,many people

Roy Kunt?

I know many have long suspected it, but I think the point about Scholes/Bacon confirms you are a fucking idiot.

[Rag_hater]

And can you tell me what's the diffence between you linking people to a Dipper site and me saying what they say about someone on an Arse site?

[Im_Spartacus]

And can you tell me what's the diffence between you linking people to a Dipper site and me saying what they say about someone on an Arse site?

Fuck me, you are struggling tonight aren't you.

Liverpool fans were commenting on a city player (eg, not their player, eg, more likely to be impartial about Nige than city fans)

Arsenal fans were commenting on an Arsenal player

Simples

[bluej]

And bringing up Scholes I don't see what point that is trying to make.He is a player that is regarded to be not very good at tackling,yet the whiskey-nosed twat has picked him regarless of this flaw in his game.To me that says one (loathed to say it) of the best managers the prem has seen see tackling as a minor issue.

Yes and to allow Scholes to flourish you have had the likes of Keane, Carrick, Fletcher etc to do the other stuff.

To relate this back to us, replace Scholes with Silva and the others with Nige.

Jesus.

[TheGOAT]

If you think all NDJ does is tackle you are a fucking idiot!
He is so good at linking our back 4 to our midfield we simply dont function as a team when he isn't playing.
Most of our attacks are started by him collecting the ball from a defender, its what you need a good DM to do.

Basically if you dont rate this guy you are completly cluless when it comes to football. You can say all you want about opinions and what not, but its an actual fact...simple

[Green & Blue]

I really rate Nigel and really dont think i would swap him for any other defensive midfielder at present.
Along with Vinny he just seems to turn out performance after performance for us.We sorely missed him when he was out and you can see how much more controled our play is now hes back in the side.He just seems to provide a calming influence on the flow of play from our midfield.I'm not a massive Hughes fan but credit where credit is due he really camr up trumps when shopping in Hamburg.

[SWP 8]

Scouse fans are of the opinion he is up there

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=242455

I love NDJ and he is absolutely awesome but for me it is essien. If Nige can start to find the net with 4 or 5 a season then he will be top of the pile for me!

from a CDM you shouldnt expect 4 or 5 goals a season from him, fair enough evey city fan would love to see him score , but for me a CDM is all about sitting infront of the defence putting in the tackles, braking down the play and playing the simple balls aand if you crop up with a goal then even better.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If you think all NDJ does is tackle you are a fucking idiot!
He is so good at linking our back 4 to our midfield we simply dont function as a team when he isn't playing.
Most of our attacks are started by him collecting the ball from a defender, its what you need a good DM to do.

Basically if you dont rate this guy you are completly cluless when it comes to football. You can say all you want about opinions and what not, but its an actual fact...simple

Or the other option, YOU are completely clueless about football. See, there's always two sides to the coin.

[Slim]

If you think all NDJ does is tackle you are a fucking idiot!
He is so good at linking our back 4 to our midfield we simply dont function as a team when he isn't playing.
Most of our attacks are started by him collecting the ball from a defender, its what you need a good DM to do.

Basically if you dont rate this guy you are completly cluless when it comes to football. You can say all you want about opinions and what not, but its an actual fact...simple

Or the other option, YOU are completely clueless about football. See, there's always two sides to the coin.

Fair to say you aren't completely clueless about coins though, I for one am impressed.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

If you think all NDJ does is tackle you are a fucking idiot!
He is so good at linking our back 4 to our midfield we simply dont function as a team when he isn't playing.
Most of our attacks are started by him collecting the ball from a defender, its what you need a good DM to do.

Basically if you dont rate this guy you are completly cluless when it comes to football. You can say all you want about opinions and what not, but its an actual fact...simple

Or the other option, YOU are completely clueless about football. See, there's always two sides to the coin.

Fair to say you aren't completely clueless about coins though, I for one am impressed.

That's what shitty wages do to you. I'd much rather be familiar with pieces of paper money than coins.

[Bingo Lewis]

If you think all NDJ does is tackle you are a fucking idiot!
He is so good at linking our back 4 to our midfield we simply dont function as a team when he isn't playing.
Most of our attacks are started by him collecting the ball from a defender, its what you need a good DM to do.

Basically if you dont rate this guy you are completly cluless when it comes to football. You can say all you want about opinions and what not, but its an actual fact...simple

Or the other option, YOU are completely clueless about football. See, there's always two sides to the coin.

Fair to say you aren't completely clueless about coins though, I for one am impressed.

That's what shitty wages do to you. I'd much rather be familiar with pieces of paper money than coins.

Its not paper, its fabric.