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Re: Dzeko

Postby Nickyboy » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:26 pm

He took a few down brilliantly on his chest, and tried hard closing down etc. We need to get to the by-line and whip crosses in and he will score.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:32 pm

Beeks wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can only judge him off what we've seen and he's been beyond shit.
I'm sorry but so many people harped on about what a wonderful player he was.
I'll believe it when I see him do something, just something which shows he isn't another Samaras.


I'm sorry but you're talking bollocks..some players just need more time to settle in

To compare him to Samaras is quite frankly laughable

True mate, at least Samaras started well.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Blood » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:08 am

Kladze wrote:Watched him at Wolfsburg a fair few times on ESPN and he looked more than the part.

Type of striker who actually requires the good service of others though. He isn't getting that at City.


That.

Dzeko needs service. I'm sure the next manager will sort that for him soon though ;D
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Re: Dzeko

Postby freshie » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:26 am

A few days after telling the press that Dzeko needs wingers to get the best out of him what does Mancini do? He starts Dzeko against Liverpool and plays Adam Johnson on the wrong side where he doesn't manage to get a single cross into the box. Even that moron Ray Wilkins could see that it would have been worth swapping Johnson to the left wing where, against a debutant right back, he may have offered some service to Dzeko
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:34 am

Nigels Tackle wrote:he's got the touch of a fucking rapist and stephen would give him a decent foot race. apart from that, he's brilliant.


Lol. Btw, Stephen who? Ireland? Hawking?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:31 am

I am sick to death of reading what Dzeko needs, quite frankly I would like to know what this team needs that he can provide.

I am not saying he is a bad player, but if he cannot offer anything to the rest of the team without requiring a major overhaul to accommodate him, then he is a waste of money, doesn't deserve a spot in the starting 11 and shows incredibly bad judgment from Mancini in signing him in the first place.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby freshie » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:52 am

We can argue all day as to whether Dzeko is a waste of money but the fact of the matter is Tevez will be out for at least a couple of weeks which means that Dzeko and/or Balotelli are going to be our main strike options. Judging by Mancini's decision to replace Balotelli after bringing him on it looks like Dzeko is going to be the main man and so we need to get him scoring so that our season doesn't collapse. All strikers are different - some, like Tevez, will create goals for themseves whilst others rely more on the service provided to them. Dzeko, from what I have seen of him, falls into the latter category and so far in most of the games that he has played the service to him has been shit. We have wide players like Adam Johnson playing on the right wing cutting in on his left foot which is fine when playing with Tevez but surely you can see that a different approach is required when Dzeko is the main striker. Would it have been so difficult for Mancini to switch Johnson to the left wing where he would find it easier to whip balls into the box from his stronger foot and at least create chances for Dzeko? The longer Dzeko's premiership duck continues the more it will sap his confidence and as you know strikers thrive on confidence - we need to get him scoring asap
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Re: Dzeko

Postby freshie » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:53 am

Slim wrote:quite frankly I would like to know what this team needs that he can provide.


Goals and assists
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:32 am

freshie wrote:
Slim wrote:quite frankly I would like to know what this team needs that he can provide.


Goals and assists


Must have blinked and missed them.

9 league games, 0 goals, 2 assists.

18 shots at an accuracy of 16.7%, that's a total of THREE shots on target in 9 games, the fucker is immense, thank god he has got the double excuse of "gelling" and "what he needs" to escape any proper evaluation.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby s1ty m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:09 am

What he did in a 2nd rate league is not relevant.

He is slow, has no first touch and is totally out of his depth in this league. If you can't see it, fine.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby s1ty m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:11 am

Slim wrote:
freshie wrote:
Slim wrote:quite frankly I would like to know what this team needs that he can provide.


Goals and assists


Must have blinked and missed them.

9 league games, 0 goals, 2 assists.

18 shots at an accuracy of 16.7%, that's a total of THREE shots on target in 9 games, the fucker is immense, thank god he has got the double excuse of "gelling" and "what he needs" to escape any proper evaluation.


These facts confirm everything about the man. Just another total waste of money. Add in Boateng, Milner and Kolarov and we start to talk about 100 million of crap. It is truly unbelievable. Nice work Roberto. Wow, amazing incompetence.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Beeks » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:25 am

I've never heard such a load of total shite in my entire life...the guy hasn't even had fucking half a season

Fuck off you utter cunts...because quite frankly you know fuck all about football
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Re: Dzeko

Postby avoidconfusion » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:28 am

Not worried about Dzeko at all, I am convinced he will come good.

Worried about Mancini and his inability to use him properly.
so now as every enemy circles our city
sour and sore, we swear war
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:47 am

Beeks wrote:He's not shit

He came in January and has had to adapt to the PL which so far he hasn't done



Fair point, it takes months for players to settle in a foreign league, just look at Suarez. OK, bad example. How about Hernandez then?

Before we bought Dzeko there were concerns over his lack of pace and that's why other teams hadn't gone after him. It seems to have been a race between us and Juve for him and seeing the current standard of the Italian league, he appears to have made the wrong choice for all concerned. He'll NEVER score more than 20 goals a season in the premier league, even if he plays here till he retires. You can store that one with the 'you'll never win anything with kids', however, I doubt it'll be back to bite me.

If we're reliant on him to score the goals, and frankly, we are, then we'll be lucky to get a Europa spot, let alone a Champions League one.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby CityFanFromRome » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:56 am

Slim wrote:18 shots at an accuracy of 16.7%, that's a total of THREE shots on target in 9 games, the fucker is immense, thank god he has got the double excuse of "gelling" and "what he needs" to escape any proper evaluation.

FFS his strength is his aerial power, he's not going to dribble all the opposition backline a la Messi; if we can't provide decent crosses to him, he's not going to score buckloads. As for the shots he took...most were pto shots from a long range because we just can't assist him a decent ball into the box; the times we did, in the FA Cup and the EL, he scored.

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These facts confirm everything about the man. Just another total waste of money. Add in Boateng, Milner and Kolarov and we start to talk about 100 million of crap. It is truly unbelievable. Nice work Roberto. Wow, amazing incompetence.

You're so ready to slag off our players, good job. Boateng is a CB and he did well when he was played there; he's not the right back we need, so he's not shit, he's just played out of position; that, of course, is Mancini's fault but the player himself is not shit. Kolarov...well maybe that was a bad buy; again, he's not a bad player but defending has never been his strength so we shouldn't have bought him mainly to do that; I believe, though, that he could be really useful if played as a winger on the left flank; he would have more chances to whip in decent crosses and try his shot.

Milner, how can you say he's shit? Again, it was shown at Villa that his best position is in central midfield, how many times has he played there for us this season?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Dameerto » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:59 am

The only thing that Dzeko needs is Jarvis - two wingers (with AJ) and the goals should come. Marwood, make us another inspired purchase in the summer please. (I'm almost hoping Wolves get relegated just to make things a little easier)
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:12 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
Slim wrote:18 shots at an accuracy of 16.7%, that's a total of THREE shots on target in 9 games, the fucker is immense, thank god he has got the double excuse of "gelling" and "what he needs" to escape any proper evaluation.

FFS his strength is his aerial power, he's not going to dribble all the opposition backline a la Messi; if we can't provide decent crosses to him, he's not going to score buckloads. As for the shots he took...most were pto shots from a long range because we just can't assist him a decent ball into the box; the times we did, in the FA Cup and the EL, he scored.


I said I am sick of excuses, sick of gelling and sick of 'what he needs' and asked what he could offer THIS team, the answer came from freshie "goals and assists", this is where the my point comes from, he has been shit to THIS team.

Of course, you decided the answer to this was 'what he needs', which tells me you need to read the fucking thread through before jumping in with your 2 pennies worth of [strike]wisd[/strike] fucktardery.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:17 am

CityFanFromRome wrote:
s1ty m wrote:
These facts confirm everything about the man. Just another total waste of money. Add in Boateng, Milner and Kolarov and we start to talk about 100 million of crap. It is truly unbelievable. Nice work Roberto. Wow, amazing incompetence.

You're so ready to slag off our players, good job. Boateng is a CB and he did well when he was played there; he's not the right back we need, so he's not shit, he's just played out of position; that, of course, is Mancini's fault but the player himself is not shit. Kolarov...well maybe that was a bad buy; again, he's not a bad player but defending has never been his strength so we shouldn't have bought him mainly to do that; I believe, though, that he could be really useful if played as a winger on the left flank; he would have more chances to whip in decent crosses and try his shot.

Milner, how can you say he's shit? Again, it was shown at Villa that his best position is in central midfield, how many times has he played there for us this season?


Having seen Boateng pull out of a tackle against a full-back against Fulham, he's no centre half, at least not in this league. If you're scared of a bloke smaller than you, what would the likes of Drogba, Jones, Carroll do to him?

Kolarov has been played as a winger and was rubbish. He's got no pace and no tricks, which doesn't help. So we play him as a wing back, where he has no pace, can't tackle and has no obvious positional sense.

Milner is definitely not a winger, as again, he has no pace or tricks. Playing him there is just ruining his confidence. However, his lack of pace in central midfield won't help and you have to wonder why he was worth £24m. That said, he'd play every game instead of Barry for me.

Back to Dzeko - maybe he doesn't fit into our system, which is making him look like the stinking pile of dog droppings he currently does. However, if that's the case, why buy him?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Mike J » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:18 am

he will come good im sure of it. some players need longer to adapt than others. Once he gets some decent service he will be fine.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:09 am

Dzeko is a quality player but there was always a chance he would struggle initially in the Prem, especially in a team like City who are terrible at feeding strikers.

He's not just an aerial threat, he has a great shot, a quick brain & two great feet but not much pace. I was delighted with his early contribution & hoped he'd get past the 1st hurdle; finding his feet & getting a first PL goal. Unfortunately it didn't happen & now his deficiencies are showing more than his attributes. a lot of his fuck ups are down to nerves, nothing more. That doesn't guarantee he'll make it in the Prem but it's stupid to write him off.

It was also fucking stupid to sign him as our main striker & let Ade go when the only similar alternatives are a 20 year old nutcase & Jo. We should have signed a balls out dynamic striker; either a great big beast like Carroll or another pocket dynamo like Tevez/Bellamy. Dzeko was definitely not the player we needed as a priority & having signed him, a winger should have been an essential purchase. Piss poor planning & it's been the same since July. Pathetic mismanagement.
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