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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:46 am

ant london wrote:
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ant london wrote:I honestly cannot remember the last time we strung together decent, convincing back to back wins

Aren't you glad we lost last night then? Now we have got more chance of winning on Saturday!



Blimey.....that's a very extreme form of glass half full. I salute the optimism!



Well he did get it badly wrong last night so he needs to get it right on saturday.I am struggling to see it but live in hope.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby dick dastardley » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:56 am

hes a dead man walking, he fucked up big time he doesnt do his homework against teams scousers beat the rags and then he shoves out a weakened team, then telling us before the game this is a must win game for the 4th spot!!!
we have players in this club that basically have come just for the money i.e ballotelli (fuckin lazy lunatic) yaya (just fuckin lazy) dzeko shite, boateng just aint good enough, boyata not ready yet for the prem, the list is endless. Barry has the odd good game but has the speed and turning circle of the titanic!!
This club cannot carry passengers and at the moment we carrying quite a few. lose on sun and the writing will well and truly be on the wall for mancini, im expecting him to do the usual parking of the bus at our end and have no will to attack the shite, which is the only way to beat the fuckers.
For me mancini can fuck right off with his shite tactics and negativity. we aint won away from home this year!!!
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby s1ty m » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:57 am

london blue 2 wrote:Have faith, he will deliver.

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Absolutely wrong. He is a useless, clueless man and should go straightaway. Any manager that pays more than pence for players like Dzeko and Kolarov should not be allowed in football. As for his cowardly approach to the game, well, whatever Roberto. He's gone and not soon enough.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:06 am

I'm fully willing to put my faith in Mancini & want to but what I want first is for Mancini to give me one indication of something that he brings to Manchester City, that is better than any run of the mill, average manager. I can't see it in any aspect, from tactics, to team selection, man management, transfers; what has he done, that I'm supposed to be impressed with?

He is supposed to be a master of tactics but he's been here almost a full season & a half & we haven't seen any evidence of it. I saw much more of that from Ranieri at Chelsea. He was slaughtered, rightly, for his tinkering but you could see the Chelsea players were learning to play the different systems he was using & they were getting better & better. Where is the evidence of that with Bob?

Should that not have read 'master of tactic' as he seems to be able to organise one thing; everybody behind the ball, block everything, hope for a draw or a lucky break & that the oppo are no good at corners. We managed to beat Chelsea & draw with Utd at home & get an away draw at Arsenal by doing that. Pearce & Warnock can do that; they've proved it. What evidence is there to suggest Bob can do anything else? Sunderland? Was that Bob's tactics or just our £100m forwards doing what they can do v an utter shite team? Can we assume that if Pearce or Warnock put those players out v Sunderland, they would be unable to play the same game? Why?

Even when the team plays well, he usually changes it for the next match (yesterday wasn't the 1st time) & it gives the impression that either he doesn't know why it worked in the 1st place, or doesn't care because he thinks it's all down to his genius. He seems to think that he can put out almost any 11 in any shape & it will perform, even though it's failing time & again & to the layman, it seems to break up the rhythm of the team. Where is the brilliant tactical change for us to discuss after a game?

How many threads have been started on Bob's brilliant tactics or substitutions? I bet Bellamy was playing most times the Bob appreciation society had a real session; playing the fast counter attacking game which Hughes was building & Bob has almost totally destroyed.

Other than David Silva, have any of his signings drastically improved the team? Whether they're good players or not; could he have chosen better or more suitable players for the same positions? Are his signings more useful to MCFC at this moment in time than the players he has kicked out? Are we certain they will become the answer to our problems next season or will they all need replacing?

If Kenny Dalglish had taken over from Hughes, would our personnel, tactics, team spirit, workrate & entertainment value be better or worse? What if it had been Moyes or Redknapp?

We are trying to build something special & we need a top man to put that together. Whatever happens in the cup & wherever we finish; what does Bob offer us, that makes us trust in him? Something that says he's the right man for this fantastic opportunity?
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Slim » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:20 am

Dalglish, Moyes, Redknapp.

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Name three men who will win the Premier League before Mancini.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Avalon » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:21 am

As usual we're chastising a man that's giving us the best season we have ever had. I still fail to see why he is disliked so much when we're friggin fourth, on course with a Champions League spot and still a chance of winning the FA Cup. Have we become that spoiled that he should win the quadriple if we are supposed to like them?

Yeah, he got his tactics wrong, yeah, he has an ego and yeah, there's rumours that players are disgruntled with them. However, we are still fourth and that was his target. Everybody agreed with this at the start of the season, fans included and, so far, he's still in the race for that.

As for Liverpool, I am still confused why he took off Balotelli, to play de Jong. I mean, if you're down 3-0, why take a player of, that regardless whether he is liked, or not, whether he plays well, or not, has infinitely more chance of scoring a goal than de Jong has. Mancini should try to play de Jong and Milner in midfield once and let Yaya get some rest. Yaya has been running non stop since early season, he could use a rest. Also, play Johnson on the left side of the field and for the love of god, cross the ball into the box. We have length in there. Why the fuck are we not using that? People moan about Dzeko, yet he hardly gets a good ball. Every ball he gets is just over the half way line in a counter attack and he does great at flicking the ball on, chesting it down, holding it, whatever, yet in the box he gets the ball passed to his feet when he has 4 men around him. He's not a miracle worker. He can do so much more, if only he gets the service he needs.

In the end though, we need to act less spoiled and really look at who we are. This is our second season with Mancini, our first, where he started halfway through the season, we ended up 5th, our best season yet. Now we're fourth and if we keep this position, again our best season yet. He's doing a good job. Yeah, his tactics sometimes are too negative. Sure, he made a mistake against Liverpool, but in the end, all managers do and have done. Mourinho was defensive against Barcelona with Inter. Taggart has been defensive and was actually defensive against us earlier this season, Redknapp has been defensive, even Wenger. So who are we kidding here? It might not be the most attractive football, but we're still on course and I'd like to think he'll pull it off.

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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Dameerto » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:25 am

The only chance we've got at the weekend is if the chairman flies in again and gets them inspired.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:30 am

Avalon wrote:As usual we're chastising a man that's giving us the best season we have ever had. I still fail to see why he is disliked so much when we're friggin fourth, on course with a Champions League spot and still a chance of winning the FA Cup. Have we become that spoiled that he should win the quadriple if we are supposed to like them?

Yeah, he got his tactics wrong, yeah, he has an ego and yeah, there's rumours that players are disgruntled with them. However, we are still fourth and that was his target. Everybody agreed with this at the start of the season, fans included and, so far, he's still in the race for that.

As for Liverpool, I am still confused why he took off Balotelli, to play de Jong. I mean, if you're down 3-0, why take a player of, that regardless whether he is liked, or not, whether he plays well, or not, has infinitely more chance of scoring a goal than de Jong has. Mancini should try to play de Jong and Milner in midfield once and let Yaya get some rest. Yaya has been running non stop since early season, he could use a rest. Also, play Johnson on the left side of the field and for the love of god, cross the ball into the box. We have length in there. Why the fuck are we not using that? People moan about Dzeko, yet he hardly gets a good ball. Every ball he gets is just over the half way line in a counter attack and he does great at flicking the ball on, chesting it down, holding it, whatever, yet in the box he gets the ball passed to his feet when he has 4 men around him. He's not a miracle worker. He can do so much more, if only he gets the service he needs.

In the end though, we need to act less spoiled and really look at who we are. This is our second season with Mancini, our first, where he started halfway through the season, we ended up 5th, our best season yet. Now we're fourth and if we keep this position, again our best season yet. He's doing a good job. Yeah, his tactics sometimes are too negative. Sure, he made a mistake against Liverpool, but in the end, all managers do and have done. Mourinho was defensive against Barcelona with Inter. Taggart has been defensive and was actually defensive against us earlier this season, Redknapp has been defensive, even Wenger. So who are we kidding here? It might not be the most attractive football, but we're still on course and I'd like to think he'll pull it off.

/rant over

TLTR: stop moaning, bitches!


So if Alan Ball was in charge & we finished 4th after spending half a billion quid; in spite of his tactics, signings, man management & potential future suitability for the job, we should all remember we're just fuck all & settle for it. No worries then.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby avoidconfusion » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:31 am

halnone wrote:ffs the scum lost at Anfield also. I wouldn't call this a disaster. I still have faith in Mancini,


It is not the fact THAT we lost it is HOW we lost... and the fact that he made THREE FUCKING CHANGES to a team that had absolutely battered Sunderland 5:0 and really worked well... the fact that he leaves two of our best and most important players on the BENCH for 53 and 83 minutes and waits until we are 3:0 down to change something.

The fact that our midfield got destroyed throughout the entire game and when he had a chance to make a change and bring a midfielder on when Tevez was injured he brought on Balofuckingtelli, another striker who would receive no service because there was no creativity in midfield.

The guy is fucking clueless and ruining our season.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Bluez » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:49 am

I am still open to be convinced, but right now I am not. I see us in 4th in spite of, not because of Mancini. His record at City so far would suggest when things get tough he bottles it and I can easily see us losing 4th.

For those with faith please tell me why because I really need some happy thoughts right now.

I don't want this to break down to some crazy slagging match because ultimately everyone wants City to do well so we are all on the same side, I just do not see what Mancini brings.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Avalon » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:59 am

Ted Hughes wrote:So if Alan Ball was in charge & we finished 4th after spending half a billion quid; in spite of his tactics, signings, man management & potential future suitability for the job, we should all remember we're just fuck all & settle for it. No worries then.


I know it is fun to see City win the quadriple in dreamworld, but this is, unfortunately, the real world. We lose, it happens. No, we're not "fuck all", but we're no Barcelona either. Heck, Mourinho ain't winning the Liga BBVA, ain't he? The reason he's second is only because there's only two teams that matter in the league. In the CL they have had an easy route as well with Lyon being the only difficult team they faced thus far.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:12 am

Mancini will deliver champs league final next year, Ballotelli will get the golden boot and Kolorov will discover 2nd gear. Have faith!
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Slim » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:16 am

london blue 2 wrote:Mancini will deliver champs league final next year, Ballotelli will get the golden boot and Kolorov will discover 2nd gear. Have faith!


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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:18 am

london blue 2 wrote:Mancini will deliver champs league final next year, Ballotelli will get the golden boot and Kolorov will discover 2nd gear. Have faith!


Roberto, is that you?
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:23 am

I await with baited breath to look at this thread on Sunday morning,then after the Spurs game in a few weeks.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:24 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:Mancini will deliver champs league final next year, Ballotelli will get the golden boot and Kolorov will discover 2nd gear. Have faith!


Roberto, is that you?


You think Roberto is that positive?
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:29 am

Avalon wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:So if Alan Ball was in charge & we finished 4th after spending half a billion quid; in spite of his tactics, signings, man management & potential future suitability for the job, we should all remember we're just fuck all & settle for it. No worries then.


I know it is fun to see City win the quadriple in dreamworld, but this is, unfortunately, the real world. We lose, it happens. No, we're not "fuck all", but we're no Barcelona either. Heck, Mourinho ain't winning the Liga BBVA, ain't he? The reason he's second is only because there's only two teams that matter in the league. In the CL they have had an easy route as well with Lyon being the only difficult team they faced thus far.


You don't neeed to be fucking Barca to turn in a decent performance against an injury ravaged Liverpool team. Just being as good as Wolves or West Brom will do. We have been shite in most games we've played against even half decent teams all season. Our only convincing performances have been against the weakest teams or teams in the middle of an injury crisis or slump.

Look at our recent away performances (the rags defeat was a triumph performance wise compared top the others) Liverpool a: shite, Chelsea a: shite, Kiev a: shite, Aris a: shite, Utd a: ok Birmingham a: shite, Notts County a: shite Villa a: ok but shite up front, Leicester a: shite, Arsenal away: desperate backs to the wall point.

Manyt of these dreadful performances are since Bob has tried to put his 'strongest' team out; Dzeko or Balotelli into formations that don't suit them or that weaken the team. He's made an absolute fucking arse of the job & has been blundering from one mistake to another whilst using every excuse in the book. Luckily for him, he has some of the best players on the planet enabling him to get away with it just enough.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:38 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
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london blue 2 wrote:Mancini will deliver champs league final next year, Ballotelli will get the golden boot and Kolorov will discover 2nd gear. Have faith!


Roberto, is that you?


You think Roberto is that positive?


Well Doug, he issued his annual "guarantee" last night on finishing 4th and threw in the FA Cup final too.

Thing is, Roberto's "guarantees" are as reliable as David Icke's.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:02 am

lets all have a disco wrote:I await with baited breath to look at this thread on Sunday morning,then after the Spurs game in a few weeks.

I can't belive people actually think i'm serious.
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Re: Mancini is the man

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:07 am

london blue 2 wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:I await with baited breath to look at this thread on Sunday morning,then after the Spurs game in a few weeks.

I can't belive people actually think i'm serious.



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