john68 wrote:Carl,
There are 2 possibilities at Wembley, we win, we lose. That's it, no draws or shared trophies. I understand fully that either is a possibility but based on the evidence at hand, we are the favourites to win, we have better players and a better playing record than Stoke. Stoke will also be missing 3 crucially important players. it is therefore reasonable to consider that City could or should be victorious. I'm pretty comfortable with that....so should you be.
Why are you so bent on looking for the nightmare scenario? When projecting City's chances, why do you always look at only the negative possibilities? Why do you never comment about any of the positive possibiliies that may happen to City?
john68 wrote:This may suprise some of you who seem so bloody hard to please.
When assessing whether this season is currently a success or not, it might be enlightening to look at it in the context of our club's history. The table below shows City's top 10 League seasons, based on the points per game average that we achieved. This season is currently the 8th best ever in our illustrious history. It may be worth noting that in that list of successful seasons, we only appeared in the Cup Final once before.
1....1968....2........1
2....1905....1.94....3
3....1972....1.9......4
4....1937....1.88....1
5....1920....1.86....2
6....1904....1.85....2....FA CUP WINNERS
7....1977....1.83....2
8....2011....1.78....4....FA CUP FINAL
9....2010....1.76....5
10...1978....1.71....4
Considering we are still a developing side, I reckon this season should at least satisfy even the hardest to please.
john68 wrote:"ET TU PADDY?"
Health beneficial my arse...Since when did being frightened of the future or focussing on possible but improbable nightmare scenarios actually benefit anyone's health?
Consider this...Our inconsistancy has at present been good enough to get into our present position, relative to the inconsistancy of those teams around us. In what way is it rational to consider that, with a few games to go, all that will change and suddenly our form will dip, whilst those teams around us will suddenly improve.
...and what fucling disaster???
When you go out on the piss Mate...Do you order a fire engine to sit outside your house just in case, in the unlikely but possible event of the kitchen table spontaneously combusting whilst you are out? Do you fucl...You'd be a idiot if you did. So why the fucl do you find it necessary to do similar with your emotions in the unlikely but possible event of the World opening up and City sliding into some bottomless abyss?
Gerrraovit yer soft tart!!!!!!
Patrick wrote:john68 wrote:"ET TU PADDY?"
Health beneficial my arse...Since when did being frightened of the future or focussing on possible but improbable nightmare scenarios actually benefit anyone's health?
Consider this...Our inconsistancy has at present been good enough to get into our present position, relative to the inconsistancy of those teams around us. In what way is it rational to consider that, with a few games to go, all that will change and suddenly our form will dip, whilst those teams around us will suddenly improve.
...and what fucling disaster???
When you go out on the piss Mate...Do you order a fire engine to sit outside your house just in case, in the unlikely but possible event of the kitchen table spontaneously combusting whilst you are out? Do you fucl...You'd be a idiot if you did. So why the fucl do you find it necessary to do similar with your emotions in the unlikely but possible event of the World opening up and City sliding into some bottomless abyss?
Gerrraovit yer soft tart!!!!!!
My health? My fucling health? Since when have city been good for my health? Keeping a level Head, fearing the worst, yet hoping, neh praying for the best is prudence that city has taught me over the years.
john68 wrote:Blue Since76,1...What the fucl has money got to do with anything? You sound like those idiot sportswriters from the rag media who simplistically use that false equation as a tool to batter us with. I will tell you again....and again...Money is only a small factor in any success. there are far more factors in attaining success than the amount we have spent. Money simply buys buys a better class of player to work with and allow those other factors to come together. So fforget the comment about expensively assembled squad...it is nonsense.
Money isn't everything, but tell me the last 'cheap' squad to win the league? I can't remember one, so the reason we've done badly until recently, is we've been relatively poor. Pre-premier league, we were up there with the big spenders, but still did rubbish, which proves your point that isn't everything, however, you need money and a talented manager - something we've not had in a long time.2...Where did I suggest that 8th is th most enjoyable season ever? Your words not mine. I clearly posted that; at present, this was the 8th most successful season in the league, considering the nimber of seasons we had been in competition.
You didn't, but you were talking about enjoying the journey and I was merely pointing out that league position/points don't necessarily make for enjoyment, although enjoyment doesn't necessarily bring success either.3...Yet another one who can consider only a negative outcome...Anyone with an ounce of sense would realise that Blackpool with their poor resources and poor squad quality were punching well above their weight. It was entirely reasonable to think that at some point they may start to fail. So no shocks there then?
Blackpool were clearly doing better than expected till xmas, as Hull did previously and we did under Sven. It was an example regarding a snapshot of the season doesn't mean anything until the last game has been played. Therefore, at the moment, sitting clear in 4th and in an FA Cup final would look a pretty good season. Losing finalists and 5th would be a comparative disaster, especially 5th with the FFP rules coming.What has our semi against the rags last season got to with it and why do you find it necessary to only dig up a negative scenario? Is it not more reasonable to take the evidence from this season, over all ther games we have played and consider that we have competed successfully enough to gain enough points to currently sit in 4th, with a chance of challenging for 3rd.
Correct, we have enough points to be sitting clear 4th with only a handful of games to go, a position I'm sure most of us would have taken last July. My initial responses were really in relation to the original thread which seemed a bit premature.What are you lot so fuclin scared of?
City. Not really surprising is it, when, for most of us, every time we've seen the shoots of something positive, it goes wrong. Last season's carling cup semi was a prime example, or Everton this year, when win a home game and you're top for Xmas and we don't turn up till we're 2-0 down. I actually think spurs will lose this weekend and we'll then win, putting us 7 points and a better goal difference clear. We'll then lose to Everton whilst Spurs win (4 points), draw at home with Spurs (4 points, 6 left to play for) and they will then fail to beat Liverpool, meaning a point against Stoke or Bolton and we've definitely made it. So I'm quietly confident at the moment, but football's never predictable. Whether you look on the bright side or not is down to personality, but I think we're all in agreement that getting the Champions League Winners 2012 tattoo is perhaps premature.
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:John, our wisdom is almost beyond doubt and then you go and say summat bloody stupid,like that the money is only a small part of it.
Funny how successful sides all seem to have a ton of cash these days. Must be a coincidence.
john68 wrote:@ Doomie,
Life, as are most things in it, is a journey where the ultimate destination is death. Do you wait until the point of death until you judge whether you have enjoyed or are satisfied with your life? Or do sometimes take a little time out during that life to assess your satisfaction or enjoyment?
As with life, so with football. It is quite in order to look at the point we have reached, take a little time out and assess its progress. It would be rather silly not to enjoy our life as it happens...and so with football. Why should we need to wait until the season has died before saying "That was good?" Is is not better to look at the moment and say "This is good?" Enjoying the journey is important. Fearing the future and looking for carl's nightmare scenarios is friuitless.
This season so far is the 8th best ever in our history. Seeking to diminish your perception of it by saying it is only slightly better than last season, is ridiculous. Last season was the 9th best ever in our history and as such, was not as bad a season as many would have us think.
....and Carl, I'm not jumping up and down with delight mate. I am merely pointing out that as it stands, we are doing ok and there is no real reason why we should be looking for nightmare scenarios or a collapse of form or any other fuclin tragedy that might beset us. It is quite reasonable to suppose that the season will continue in a similar vein and we shall probably lift the Cup, finish well clear of Spurs and hopefully challenge Arsenal for 3rd.
john68 wrote:Doomie
We have played 33 games of a 38 game season, (I understand that it is not yet over), we now sit in 4th with a possibility of a challenge for 3rd and we have beaten (eventually) those teams put in front of us to get to the FA Cup Final. In the League, we have earned and won the right to mix it with the big boys at the top and on the way to the final, we beat the team currently sat at the top and likely to be competing for the title of European champions...We have earned that Mate.
But...God Bless yer Doomie...despite what we have already achieved...yerv gone and done it again. Yes, we could still shit the bed at the 1th hour and you are right to note this...but...it is NOT the only possibility is it? So why do you point out out the negative but exclude the positive possibility?
Despite what City seem to do, there is a group on here who constantly only accentuate the negative possibilities. they diminish their enjoyment of the moment by their fear of the future.
john68 wrote:So...if yer not being negative, it doesn't fuclin apply to you does it?...Daft Septic!!!
But if yer not being negative, why the fucl did you flag up that the "shit could still hit the fan"...whilst ignoring that we might go ion a wonderful end of season run and batter the living daylights our of everyone?...Just as possible....miserable git!!!
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