What a load of flowery apologist bullshit.
john68 wrote:It is not about the rights or wrongs of using the terms "Munich" or "Mune"
That is exactly what this discussion is about, only you chose to sidetrack it repeatedly.
but whether those who do so, having giving it consideration and thought, have the right to make their own minds up regarding their opinions and actions.
They do. Just as much as those critisicing their choice have the right to critisice their choice.
City fans like KK and many others are thinking, intelligent people who use the the terms "Munich" and "Mune" for the rags. They are fully aware of why they do it and they are fully aware of the implications of their actions. When they use the terms "Munich" and "Mune", they do so mindfully. I am not opining whether their choice is morally right or wrong but I am asserting that; because it is mindful, they have the right to that opinion....Whether you, I or the club like it or agree with it or not.
I understand that you have no control, nor can answer for the media, the rags or any other group of fans, again I have no problem with that...but as these City fans are thinking, mindful beings, you cannot answer nor control them either. Which is what you seek to do.
They might have the right to that opinion, but that doesn't necessarily give them the right to voice that opinion in a certain fashion at certain events in certain venues. The club has every right to 'control' that particular behaviour & any individual has the right to advocate said control by the club.
That said, I haven't seen anyone seeking to 'control' other 'thinking, mindful beings' on this site. I have seen disagreement & reasoning (in the broad sense of the word).
My next point was simply regarding the balance of your targetting. You chose to defend you principles (quite right to do so) but only chose to attack City fans, whilst not (until pushed) attack either the rags' fans and club and the media. Your belief being that you can't account for the latter but can for the former...(see above).
I don't expect you to agree with KK, (never did) but you should acknowledge his right (and others) to hold his (their) opinion and be responsible for his (their) own actions.
Regarding the (wrong) assumption and your accusation of "if they're allowed to do it, then we are" I can and do blame you for that. It is you that chose to take my words and twist them. despite being asked previously not to do so. If I didn't say it, consider that I didn't mean it.
My mention of other teams' morals was simply to ensure that the picture was complete. Until i did so, your argument only targetted city fans. it also added balance, showing that the reasoning behind fans' opinions wasn't as mindless as you were suggesting.
It is also fucking typical that people only point their fingers in a singualr direction, failing to point their finger at others actions that a the essence of the issue.
This particular matter is regarding MCFC & it's supporters. There is no need to point any fingers in any other direction until this particular matter is resolved by MCFC & it's supporters.