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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 06, 2011 5:45 am

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


Sorry mate, but thats bollocks....we already have the players who can put the ball in the net, we just need the delivery. At the moment we have a team who dont have a fucking clue how to get the ball in the right positions, we seem to score by accident

If we have a player (x2) who can cross the ball in and score the odd goal (10), we have 3 forwards who can score maybe 15-17 each. Add in a good haul from the midfield, and that is looking like 60/70 goals a season, which would put us where we need to be.


Three strikers who score 15 each??? How many players in WHOLE LEAGUE scored more than 15 last season? Was it seven? And that was exceptional year as year before only three players got past 15 goal mark. And you are suggesting we'd have no less than three strikers who all get 15-17 each.

Fantasy world.

p.s "on me head son" still is no tactic to win league titles.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Fri May 06, 2011 7:01 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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Blue Toy wrote:Rooney for me I'm afraid.

Agree with earlier comments about Carroll, I think we really missed out there.



I was told Carroll was a shit overrated piss head.

I would have signed him over Dzeko all day long.


What's this crap about Carroll? He has scored TWO goals in SEVEN games for Liverpool. Oh we missed there, we missed there bad.

People were saying that Carroll's not worth that sort of money at this stage because he is unproven this level and is no guarantee for goals. Which is still true.

Some people here are moaning for moaning's sake.


who's moaning? thought we were suggesting replacements for tevez?

i said all along that i thought carroll would/will become a great player. of course he's not worth £35M, but i'd say liverpool came away with a good bit of business to swap a broken torres for a player with huge potential and make a very tidy profit.

anyway - lots of names mentioned here, quite a few decent players. but for me, the fact is there isn't a single striker in the world (ok, probably messi - and we aint gonna sign him) that can do what CT does when he's on form. there are probably better overall strikers out there, but we'd need to change our style of play beyond "work it sideways to the edge of the box and then give it to carlos"
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Avalon » Fri May 06, 2011 7:24 am

I don't think there's a player that can replace Tevez, considering the work rate he puts in. I don't think we should look for a replacement, but rather a new player, probably on a different position, now that we have Dzeko and Balotelli.

I have been advocating Alexis Sanchez for a while, I think he'll be a good player in the EPL. He's physically strong on the ball, he's fast and nimble and overall he looks pretty good.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 06, 2011 7:33 am

May I just throw the name out - Vassell?
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby dazby » Fri May 06, 2011 7:40 am

Beefymcfc wrote:May I just throw the name out - Vassell?



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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby avoidconfusion » Fri May 06, 2011 9:32 am

Beefymcfc wrote:May I just throw the name out - Vassell?


This.

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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Mike J » Fri May 06, 2011 9:54 am

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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Hazy2 » Fri May 06, 2011 10:06 am

Rossi, very good forward, Gyan from Sunderland is a player. just at a crap club, Drogba-- short term fix, with proven record. We could opt for a midfielder to get us 10/12 or so a season and unleash a pre-season and match fit Mario.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby gaudy » Fri May 06, 2011 10:17 am

Viva vassel!
the "vassell roll" is one of the funniest things ive seen!
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 06, 2011 10:52 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.

Dzeko would get on the end of quite a few but we could do with someone else as well. If we actually start to 'do' crosses as well as rags/Chelsea etc do, both in the air & along the ground, we could easily pick up an extra 25/30 goals per season with a half decent goal poacher, preferably someone who often gets accross the front of defenders (like Shitarito/Solskjaer have done for the rags) rather than always waiting at the far post/middle. We do all the hard work, getting ourselves into deadly positions, then just waste the ball. Our approach play is 2nd to none, our final ball/cross is 2nd to West Brom/Wolves etc.

Although I've mostly seen him on highlights programmes, I agree with those who've mentioned Falcao. I don't know what his outfield play is like over 90 mins but right now, he looks like the best goal poacher in the business. Whether it's a flukey streak I don't know but he's on fire right now & his record is very good. He seems to have a good finish, a fantastic leap on him (like Shitarito but better) & is one of those rarities in modern football; someone with great skill at heading the ball rather than just pointing is head in the general direction & hoping it bounces off. Some of his headed finishes have been breathtaking.

I'd leave Hulk where he is though. Great ability, great physique, pace, but has the brain of the actual Hulk.

If Drogba comes on the market we have to bid though, even though he makes my flesh crawl. He has everything we lack.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri May 06, 2011 11:01 am

As it goes i'd have liked for us to get that Hernandez he looked fantastic in the WC and i thought he would do well in the Prem.He would have been the perfect replacement.

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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 06, 2011 11:19 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.



That is absolutely nothing like the system Mourinho uses and rags have loads of dimensions to their game as well. Mourinho is all about wingers and attacking central midfielders cutting and/or arriving late to box. He DOES have centerforward but it's all about goals coming all over the park.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 06, 2011 11:28 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.



That is absolutely nothing like the system Mourinho uses and rags have loads of dimensions to their game as well. Mourinho is all about wingers and attacking central midfielders cutting and/or arriving late to box. He DOES have centerforward but it's all about goals coming all over the park.


We also have lots of dimensions to our game but we lack crosses of any kind & aerial power. If other sides are of a similar standard to us in creating from general play, but ALSO score loads from crosses/headers/set pieces as well as from 2nd ball from those things, they will ALWAYS finish above us. We either have to be a whole world better than rags, Chelsea etc in all other areas of the pitch or we have to become as good as them at crossing & finishing. It's a simple equation.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby OliverHardy » Fri May 06, 2011 11:37 am

At the moment there is nobody else other than Drogba for us. We cant afford to take a chance on a player who is unproven in the Prem, no matter how good or expensive he is. There are a handful of players worldwide who could potentially fit the bill but non that play in england or are available. Drogba would be ideal for a season or 2 while we seek out a long term replacement.
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Avalon » Fri May 06, 2011 11:40 am

Who can forget this then? :p

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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 06, 2011 11:42 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.



That is absolutely nothing like the system Mourinho uses and rags have loads of dimensions to their game as well. Mourinho is all about wingers and attacking central midfielders cutting and/or arriving late to box. He DOES have centerforward but it's all about goals coming all over the park.


We also have lots of dimensions to our game but we lack crosses of any kind & aerial power. If other sides are of a similar standard to us in creating from general play, but ALSO score loads from crosses/headers/set pieces as well as from 2nd ball from those things, they will ALWAYS finish above us. We either have to be a whole world better than rags, Chelsea etc in all other areas of the pitch or we have to become as good as them at crossing & finishing. It's a simple equation.


Well we do agree after all!
I agree that we need to add more crosses and some headed goals. However, Tevez dilemma doesn't really have much to do with that.

The biggest concern with Tevez (apart from goals of course) is that he is the only one (apart from Silva recently..... what a player!) who can vacate that space behind main striker. Our three deep lying central midfielders don't really add enough.

Personally I'd "replace" Tevez with world class attacking central midfielder who can arrive late in to box and score few. Also he should be able to spread the ball. Someone with similar role to Gerrard/Lampard. Any ideas?
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 06, 2011 11:52 am

After thinking this for a while, how about going heavy for combo of Benzema and trying some sort of swap deal for Snejder?
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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Dubciteh » Fri May 06, 2011 11:54 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.



That is absolutely nothing like the system Mourinho uses and rags have loads of dimensions to their game as well. Mourinho is all about wingers and attacking central midfielders cutting and/or arriving late to box. He DOES have centerforward but it's all about goals coming all over the park.


We also have lots of dimensions to our game but we lack crosses of any kind & aerial power. If other sides are of a similar standard to us in creating from general play, but ALSO score loads from crosses/headers/set pieces as well as from 2nd ball from those things, they will ALWAYS finish above us. We either have to be a whole world better than rags, Chelsea etc in all other areas of the pitch or we have to become as good as them at crossing & finishing. It's a simple equation.


Well we do agree after all!
I agree that we need to add more crosses and some headed goals. However, Tevez dilemma doesn't really have much to do with that.

The biggest concern with Tevez (apart from goals of course) is that he is the only one (apart from Silva recently..... what a player!) who can vacate that space behind main striker. Our three deep lying central midfielders don't really add enough.

Personally I'd "replace" Tevez with world class attacking central midfielder who can arrive late in to box and score few. Also he should be able to spread the ball. Someone with similar role to Gerrard/Lampard. Any ideas?


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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri May 06, 2011 11:58 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Like for like or new system - regardless we will need WORLD CLASS replacement. And no, having another winger crossing the ball and hoping centerforward to head them in will not A) give us 25-30 goals a year B) impress anyone in Champion's League.


It's worked ok for the rags recently. 3 finals for a team who's main weapon is firing in crosses. It's not done bad for Mourinho either.



That is absolutely nothing like the system Mourinho uses and rags have loads of dimensions to their game as well. Mourinho is all about wingers and attacking central midfielders cutting and/or arriving late to box. He DOES have centerforward but it's all about goals coming all over the park.


We also have lots of dimensions to our game but we lack crosses of any kind & aerial power. If other sides are of a similar standard to us in creating from general play, but ALSO score loads from crosses/headers/set pieces as well as from 2nd ball from those things, they will ALWAYS finish above us. We either have to be a whole world better than rags, Chelsea etc in all other areas of the pitch or we have to become as good as them at crossing & finishing. It's a simple equation.


Well we do agree after all!
I agree that we need to add more crosses and some headed goals. However, Tevez dilemma doesn't really have much to do with that.

The biggest concern with Tevez (apart from goals of course) is that he is the only one (apart from Silva recently..... what a player!) who can vacate that space behind main striker. Our three deep lying central midfielders don't really add enough.

Personally I'd "replace" Tevez with world class attacking central midfielder who can arrive late in to box and score few. Also he should be able to spread the ball. Someone with similar role to Gerrard/Lampard. Any ideas?


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Re: If/When Tevez Leaves..

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 06, 2011 12:24 pm

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