Great shout for Felipe Caicedo

[Original Dub]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

He is never top Premier League striker and never will be. You can quote me on that.

[Original Dub]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

He is never top Premier League striker and never will be. You can quote me on that.

Neither was/is Diego Forlan. That doesn't mean an awful lot.

[CityGer]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

He is never top Premier League striker and never will be. You can quote me on that.

In the same manner is 'we could quote you' on David Silva not being a playmaker, being an out and out winger and him taking "at least a year" to settle in the Premiership?

I should add that the jury is still out on big Phil for me, but seeing as you're the biggest 'I told you so' merchant on here, it's only right that someone points out your past shockers.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

He is never top Premier League striker and never will be. You can quote me on that.

In the same manner is 'we could quote you' on David Silva not being a playmaker, being an out and out winger and him taking "at least a year" to settle in the Premiership?

Sure, although what I said exactly was that David Silva is most efective on the left. He did play some playmaker in Valencia but was more efective on the left. Which is a fact. I also said that I feel it would take him time to get used to Premier League and credit to the lad, he has taken the league by a storm.

You also failed to mention that Silva was my absolute favourite signing of last summer as I really really liked the lad in Spain.

[Rag_hater]

First touch looks alright here IMO,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gRw0VlMAFQ

Got to second goal and already he was making mess of it. Of course he scored in the end, it's a bloody highlight video but there's not many centerbacks in Premierleague that wouldn't have dealt with that.

Edit. FOURTH GOAL! He can't trap the ball but another LEvante player deals with it!

You say you have seen Felipe tap ins on highlights.When his quite good first touch is shown on a highlights compilation you make it sound as if it is a sub standard form of viewing and assessing.
The goal you mention is it the one where Felipe takes it with his left quite deftly not touching it to hard or soft but enough to maintain his sprinting speed and then fools the goalie and scores.Which bit of it was bad could you analyse it a bit more for me and let me know.
Players in the premier league would have dealt with it?
Did Carrick deal with it when Yaya scored?
Has there never been a mistake in the Prem?
All goals are because of a mistake by someone somewhere in the process.
A goalscorer's job is to be able to capitalize on the mistakes.

[stevefromdonny]

god, hes only 20 still, lets keep him for a few years

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

First touch looks alright here IMO,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gRw0VlMAFQ

Got to second goal and already he was making mess of it. Of course he scored in the end, it's a bloody highlight video but there's not many centerbacks in Premierleague that wouldn't have dealt with that.

Edit. FOURTH GOAL! He can't trap the ball but another LEvante player deals with it!

You say you have seen Felipe tap ins on highlights.When his quite good first touch is shown on a highlights compilation you make it sound as if it is a sub standard form of viewing and assessing.
The goal you mention is it the one where Felipe takes it with his left quite deftly not touching it to hard or soft but enough to maintain his sprinting speed and then fools the goalie and scores.Which bit of it was bad could you analyse it a bit more for me and let me know.
Players in the premier league would have dealt with it?
Did Carrick deal with it when Yaya scored?
Has there never been a mistake in the Prem?
All goals are because of a mistake by someone somewhere in the process.
A goalscorer's job is to be able to capitalize on the mistakes.

Where the hell did I say anything about tap ins? Although half of them were. I said "chances fall to him". Which they do.

And yes, there's not that sort of space behind centerbacks in Premier League and you have less time to do anything with the ball. That is a statistical fact.

I know full well that you are mad fan of La Liga living there and everything but quality of La Liga behind top two teams is poor. Quality of bottom ten is simply appalling. Top two though are better than just about anyone right now though.

[Original Dub]

Yep, at 20 years old, its safe to say he's definitely a footballer. And a VERY good one.

[The Man In Blue]

If he stays, he should go back out on loan to a good Championship club, a promoted team or an Old Firm side. Something competitive where we can keep a close eye on him and hike up his value a bit.

I don't agree with that man. The only way we will know whether he's got it is by giving him some first team minutes. From the limited time i've seen him he seems to have decent pace, really good strength and the ability to time his runs. I know it;s a bit of a cliche now but really, Jo is shite. Place on the bench for last few games.

[Esky]

Everyone's saying keep him - I thought Levante had an automatic buyout clause of around 850k? (which would've been ridiculous even before he had a great season).

If that's not true, I'd prefer to keep him over Roque and Jo. Adebayor, Bellamy, Tevez and Guidetti probably won't be here next year so we're going to need to keep someone.

[kinkylola]

yea ... jesus can we sell rsc before we think about getting rid of caicedo? Hasn't he scored more than rsc and jo combined in our team? Caicedo as 3rd/4th choice striker would not bother me a bit right now.

[Rag_hater]

First touch looks alright here IMO,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gRw0VlMAFQ

Got to second goal and already he was making mess of it. Of course he scored in the end, it's a bloody highlight video but there's not many centerbacks in Premierleague that wouldn't have dealt with that.

Edit. FOURTH GOAL! He can't trap the ball but another LEvante player deals with it!

You say you have seen Felipe tap ins on highlights.When his quite good first touch is shown on a highlights compilation you make it sound as if it is a sub standard form of viewing and assessing.
The goal you mention is it the one where Felipe takes it with his left quite deftly not touching it to hard or soft but enough to maintain his sprinting speed and then fools the goalie and scores.Which bit of it was bad could you analyse it a bit more for me and let me know.
Players in the premier league would have dealt with it?
Did Carrick deal with it when Yaya scored?
Has there never been a mistake in the Prem?
All goals are because of a mistake by someone somewhere in the process.
A goalscorer's job is to be able to capitalize on the mistakes.

Where the hell did I say anything about tap ins? Although half of them were. I said "chances fall to him". Which they do.

And yes, there's not that sort of space behind centerbacks in Premier League and you have less time to do anything with the ball. That is a statistical fact.

I know full well that you are mad fan of La Liga living there and everything but quality of La Liga behind top two teams is poor. Quality of bottom ten is simply appalling. Top two though are better than just about anyone right now though.

Really?
Is it.
Where did you find that stat cos I have not been able to.Maybe you could put a link to it to back up your findings.
The quality of La Liga is poor.
The way I see it is after the CL the Europa league is the next major Euro comp.In that comp Spanish teams since the one leg final have won it more than any other country so that suggests to me that Spanish teams in La Liga are ahead of the Prem and the rest of Europe.
And in your opinion the bottom 10 teams of La liga are worse than the bottom 10 teams in the Prem.In my opinion they are not,as this is never likely to be found out the argument just goes round in circles.

[Blue Since 76]

we need 4 strikers and at least two of them will spend a lot of time on the bench. I doubt Villa and Aguero will be up for that role, so we either have someone who isn't good enough to be here or a kid. If it's a kid, it needs to be someone who realises they're still learning and aren't quite good enough yet. Giudetti seems to think he should be up front for Barca or SturrideBendtner Syndrome, as it's known in medical circles.
Having tasted success abroad, I doubt big Phil would want to come back now.

[bluej]

The way I see it is after the CL the Europa league is the next major Euro comp.In that comp Spanish teams since the one leg final have won it more than any other country so that suggests to me that Spanish teams in La Liga are ahead of the Prem and the rest of Europe..

Probably because all the english sides are doing well in the main competition! Arsenal,Liverpool, Chelsea and United have all reached the final and/or won it in recent years, as well as english sides making the latter rounds consistently for consecutive seasons. Even Spurs, in their debut season, made the 1/4 finals.

[Rag_hater]

The way I see it is after the CL the Europa league is the next major Euro comp.In that comp Spanish teams since the one leg final have won it more than any other country so that suggests to me that Spanish teams in La Liga are ahead of the Prem and the rest of Europe..

Probably because all the english sides are doing well in the main competition! Arsenal,Liverpool, Chelsea and United have all reached the final and/or won it in recent years, as well as english sides making the latter rounds consistently for consecutive seasons. Even Spurs, in their debut season, made the 1/4 finals.

The same could be said of Real,Barça,Deportivo,Valencia,Sevilla,Villareal.
And the for me the fact that Atletico won the Europa last year says that the stuff being said that La Liga is an uncompetative league doesn't really seem true.
Since the CL began I think La Liga has had 12 different teams in it whereas the prem has had 8.
You might be right and the English teams at the top maybe slightly ahead its the stuff people are saying that the rest of the league is crap that I find a bit lacking in thought.

[Paco Gento]

Caicedo is number one in europe for goals to chances converted, Hernandez is third. He knows where the onion sack is ill give him that but still havent forgotten the chances he missed against hamburg in the uefa cup quarters!

Was gonna post the same thing. There's no doubt now that he is fast becoming a success story. Little bit of fine tuning and he'll go to a top club in couple of years.

Some folk tried telling us he wasn't even a footballer and never would be.

D'oh!

He is never top Premier League striker and never will be. You can quote me on that.

In the same manner is 'we could quote you' on David Silva not being a playmaker, being an out and out winger and him taking "at least a year" to settle in the Premiership?

Sure, although what I said exactly was that David Silva is most efective on the left. He did play some playmaker in Valencia but was more efective on the left. Which is a fact. I also said that I feel it would take him time to get used to Premier League and credit to the lad, he has taken the league by a storm.

You also failed to mention that Silva was my absolute favourite signing of last summer as I really really liked the lad in Spain.

Silva has always been an attacking central midfielder and always struggled on the wing. I seen him in the youth formations and always followed his development, he never really coped as a winger. We had him in Madrid when he was 11 but sent him back home because he was too small. Iniesta was turned down for his size aswell.

Caicedo is a good player who's going to get better. I will not be surprised if he end up at a big club in couple of years time. There are rumours Levante will buy him for €1 million and sell him straight away to a Russian team for €10mil. I hope he doesn't get carried away by the money and stays for at least 1 more year in Spain so he can improve his technique and work rate. If he go to Russia he won't develop his potential.

[Alioune DVToure]

Silva has always been an attacking central midfielder and always struggled on the wing. I seen him in the youth formations and always followed his development, he never really coped as a winger. We had him in Madrid when he was 11 but sent him back home because he was too small. Iniesta was turned down for his size aswell.

Caicedo is a good player who's going to get better. I will not be surprised if he end up at a big club in couple of years time. There are rumours Levante will buy him for €1 million and sell him straight away to a Russian team for €10mil. I hope he doesn't get carried away by the money and stays for at least 1 more year in Spain so he can improve his technique and work rate. If he go to Russia he won't develop his potential.

PG - Why don't you do an occasional Anglo-Spanish football piece on here? (i.e. progress of English loanees in Spain, some info on Spain-based transfer targets of English clubs, which Spanish clubs are interested in England-based players, young LFP players to look out for etc.)

I for one would love that. I regularly read Spanish newspapers and Spanish sports newspapers but they're even worse (and even more filled with bullshit) than ours. I'd love to read stuff written by a normal, knowledgeable fan.

[Crossie]

Caceido is 22.

A squad of 4 strikers is the minimum, you only need one to be injured and one out of form, to be left with 2 (im clever). Then if your losing with 15 mins left and need to bring another striker on, your abit fooked.

Would Bellers be an option off the bench? Probably under any other manager than Bobby yea.

Dzeko
Balotelli
Adebayor
Caceido

IMO that is the minimum we should have for next season. Ideally we'd ship out Adebayor and bring in 2 more, I don't know who, but we'd have 5 good solid strikers/forwards, that would see us through the season. A season that might involve up to 60 games.

[Alioune DVToure]

Caceido is 22.

A squad of 4 strikers is the minimum, you only need one to be injured and one out of form, to be left with 2 (im clever). Then if your losing with 15 mins left and need to bring another striker on, your abit fooked.

Would Bellers be an option off the bench? Probably under any other manager than Bobby yea.

Dzeko
Balotelli
Adebayor
Caceido

IMO that is the minimum we should have for next season. Ideally we'd ship out Adebayor and bring in 2 more, I don't know who, but we'd have 5 good solid strikers/forwards, that would see us through the season. A season that might involve up to 60 games.

I think 4 quality strikers will be fine, especially as we'll often be playing one up with two off, e.g.

Johnson Silva

Balotelli



Silva Balotelli

Dzeko

But I can see Tevez leaving and Adebayor not returning. So I'd bring Caicedo back as a squad player and go for Agüero or Benzema.