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We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Tue May 24, 2011 7:51 pm

Lots of accusations that we bought the league and joint second....

how do you feel about that? has any team ever won the PL that didn't "buy" it?

what is the difference between what we've done and the wealthy local benefactor that ran practically every club in the 80's and before?

is it old money against nouveau riche?

does anyone remember which team was behind the rule changes in 1989 that ensured that the away team no longer got a cut of the gate?

is it wrong to slag off wigan when we "bought" our position too?

why is the alphabet in that order?

When two aeroplanes almost collide why do they call it a near miss??
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Re: We bought the league and joint second

Postby Beeks » Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote: we bought the league and joint second


I'm confused..do you need to replace league with cup?
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Re: We bought the league and joint second

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Tue May 24, 2011 8:11 pm

Beeks wrote:
Arjan Van Schotte wrote: we bought the league and joint second


I'm confused..do you need to replace league with cup?


no - you mental...

oh...
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Re: We bought the league and joint second

Postby Beeks » Tue May 24, 2011 8:19 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Beeks wrote:
Arjan Van Schotte wrote: we bought the league and joint second


I'm confused..do you need to replace league with cup?


no - you mental...

oh...


Been on the oranjeboom tonight have we Arjan? ;-)
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby lincoln blue » Tue May 24, 2011 8:29 pm

Just reading Mark Radcliffe's new book - won't bore you with details
He talks about the song Blue Moon by the Marcels from 1961, he then goes on to make references to the song and City, I qoute
"I assume the club has now bought the rights to the song. We appear to be in the process of buying pretty much everything else including, one hopes, the Premier League title. Hey don't blame us. We didn't put it up for sale"
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Tue May 24, 2011 8:32 pm

lincoln blue wrote:Hey don't blame us. We didn't put it up for sale"


exactly.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 24, 2011 9:24 pm

I hope we do better next season by buying the Prem and the CL...also the cc and the FA and¿ the egg cup and then lets buy another fucking club as well...just to play friendlies with in the summer.

Im loving the JEALOUSY.......LOVING IT.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby gillie » Tue May 24, 2011 9:31 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I hope we do better next season by buying the Prem and the CL...also the cc and the FA and¿ the egg cup and then lets buy another fucking club as well...just to play friendlies with in the summer.

Im loving the JEALOUSY.......LOVING IT.

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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Patrick » Tue May 24, 2011 9:34 pm

The best thing we bought was time, now we can actually keep a manager and build a real team spirit
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Twobob » Tue May 24, 2011 9:35 pm

Will they be able to claim the tax back on it? May be we could sell it to Real Madrid next year for a profit.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 24, 2011 11:07 pm

gillie wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:I hope we do better next season by buying the Prem and the CL...also the cc and the FA and¿ the egg cup and then lets buy another fucking club as well...just to play friendlies with in the summer.

Im loving the JEALOUSY.......LOVING IT.

I'm hearing you Brother Carl amen.Btw how is Bastard the cat doing?


Bastard Cat is a cunt........bites me leg in the morning when he wants me to get up..(doesn't bite me mrs leg...little cunt)..already smashed an expensive vase.....grabs my keys and hides them......and he basically does another million things that make you want to do a rain dance......however...hes a funny intelligent cunt (Like me) so I take him how he is.


My mrs has even given him his own facebook page and has more friends than me......CUNT.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby dario2739 » Wed May 25, 2011 12:21 am

But I thought money couldn't buy success?!?
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby john68 » Wed May 25, 2011 3:08 am

I'm with Carl and Gillie on this...except....I don't agree with buying the rights to Blue moon. We should simply buy the real moon and then buy a firm of decorators to paint it for blue us...except for away games when it could be done out in red and black stripes.
Maybe in a few years when we are totally dominating football at all levels, we could buy a whole galaxy and paint it blue.

The problem with the rags is that they have spent the last 20 odd years taking the piss, being arrogant and believing that they have some divine right to do whatever they wanted. The sad bastards actually do think that this is all wrong and shouldn't be happening. They can't get their tiny heads round the fact that City are chasing at their arses and biting chunks ut of it. They are at a loss when they have to handle the fact that not only did we win the Cup but took them out on the way, fucking up the treble they thought they had a right to win.

Fuck em
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 25, 2011 6:33 am

It's kind of point of professional football that players are bought and sold and Clubs are run like businesses.

Also all the talk of us having a sugar daddy makes me laugh. There were rich benefactors already in 19th century.

If people want to blame someone for the way things are then blame Blackburn Olympic and Preston North End. Since Blackburn Olympic stuffed Old Etonians the game has been mostly about the money.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby john@staustell » Wed May 25, 2011 8:08 am

This is the list of champions since I can remember stuff. I challenge anyone to tell me one of these who hasn't 'bought'success, or a key element of it. Just off the top of my head where did Alex Stepney come from again? And Lee/Bell/Summerbee/Book? And Sniffer Clarke? And Alan Ball? And any number of big signings for Liverpool, Notts Forest, Villa, Everton and Arsenal? And as for the holier-than-though Arsenal, look at all their big signings in the 90s before Wenger went completely potty. And the biggest buyers of them all of course, until all the transfer money went to the Glazers - Scum!

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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby ashton287 » Wed May 25, 2011 8:23 am

john68 wrote:We should simply buy the real moon


The americans wont sell it us.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby only rags are bitters » Wed May 25, 2011 8:43 am

john@staustell wrote:This is the list of champions since I can remember stuff. I challenge anyone to tell me one of these who hasn't 'bought'success, or a key element of it. Just off the top of my head where did Alex Stepney come from again? And Lee/Bell/Summerbee/Book? And Sniffer Clarke? And Alan Ball? And any number of big signings for Liverpool, Notts Forest, Villa, Everton and Arsenal? And as for the holier-than-though Arsenal, look at all their big signings in the 90s before Wenger went completely potty. And the biggest buyers of them all of course, until all the transfer money went to the Glazers - Scum!

1966–67 Manchester United
1967–68 Manchester City
1968–69 Leeds United
1969–70 Everton
1970–71 Arsenal
1971–72 Derby County
1972–73 Liverpool
1973–74 Leeds United
1974–75 Derby County
1975–76 Liverpool
1976–77 Liverpool
1977–78 Nottingham Forest
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from that list there are only really 2 clubs who did not spend enormous amounts of money to win the league - they are city in 68 & villa in 81 . all the others regularly broke british transfer records to achieve their aims (including brian clough who despite his "charisma" could not have done it without spending huge amounts on players ) . i am struggling to think of anyone who has won the FA cup in recent times without spending big (even portsmouth spent millions before harry jumped ship ) a lot of experts predicted city would win nothing with mancini and are now looking like the complete twunts that they are - and there only defence is that we have spent millions to do it .
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Chinners » Wed May 25, 2011 9:32 am

Wimbledon didn't buy their cup win ... well not foe very much anyway
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby Sister of fu » Wed May 25, 2011 10:03 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:I hope we do better next season by buying the Prem and the CL...also the cc and the FA and¿ the egg cup and then lets buy another fucking club as well...just to play friendlies with in the summer.

Im loving the JEALOUSY.......LOVING IT.



Carl you incompetent cunt your forgot about La Liga, Seria A and the World Cup........they will look belting at Albert Square next year.
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Re: We bought the cup and joint second

Postby john@staustell » Wed May 25, 2011 10:50 am

only rags are bitters wrote:
john@staustell wrote:This is the list of champions since I can remember stuff. I challenge anyone to tell me one of these who hasn't 'bought'success, or a key element of it. Just off the top of my head where did Alex Stepney come from again? And Lee/Bell/Summerbee/Book? And Sniffer Clarke? And Alan Ball? And any number of big signings for Liverpool, Notts Forest, Villa, Everton and Arsenal? And as for the holier-than-though Arsenal, look at all their big signings in the 90s before Wenger went completely potty. And the biggest buyers of them all of course, until all the transfer money went to the Glazers - Scum!

1966–67 Manchester United
1967–68 Manchester City
1968–69 Leeds United
1969–70 Everton
1970–71 Arsenal
1971–72 Derby County
1972–73 Liverpool
1973–74 Leeds United
1974–75 Derby County
1975–76 Liverpool
1976–77 Liverpool
1977–78 Nottingham Forest
1978–79 Liverpool
1979–80 Liverpool
1980–81 Aston Villa
1981–82 Liverpool
1982–83 Liverpool
1983–84 Liverpool
1984–85 Everton
1985–86 Liverpool
1986–87 Everton
1987–88 Liverpool
1988–89 Arsenal
1989–90 Liverpool
1990–91 Arsenal
1991–92 Leeds United
1992–93 Manchester United
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Manchester United
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Manchester United
2000–01 Manchester United
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Manchester United
2003–04 Arsenal
2004–05 Chelsea
2005–06 Chelsea
2006–07 Manchester United
2007–08 Manchester United
2008–09 Manchester United
2009–10 Chelsea
2010–11 Manchester United




from that list there are only really 2 clubs who did not spend enormous amounts of money to win the league - they are city in 68 & villa in 81 . all the others regularly broke british transfer records to achieve their aims (including brian clough who despite his "charisma" could not have done it without spending huge amounts on players ) . i am struggling to think of anyone who has won the FA cup in recent times without spending big (even portsmouth spent millions before harry jumped ship ) a lot of experts predicted city would win nothing with mancini and are now looking like the complete twunts that they are - and there only defence is that we have spent millions to do it .


I would've put City in the spending category tbh. At the time we laid out a few quid, peanuts though it was a few years later. And it's fair to say we wouldn't have won it without the players we bought - Bell, Lee. Summerbee, Coleman.

Villa in 81, off the top of my head bought Mortimer and Withe at least, pretty key players.
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