Robinho to Barca? [MERGED]

[john@staustell]

This rumour wont go away, in it's various forms.

Robson I suspect, despite his great play at times, will always be a bit of a pain in the arse team-wise. He will also not really have a true position, because he cant defend in the modern Premier game.

One day he will be over 30 and everyone will say - 'where did that career go?'

At the moment the ball is totally in his court I reckon. He either knuckles down after injury and really goes out to show everyone what a player he is, or he sulks about expecting an automatic place back just because he turns up.

You can bet your bottom dollar if City let him go in any fashion there will be a spectacular replacement.

[Rag_hater]

I dont go for this theory that some people have that Robson does no defending.
The Guardian chalkboards show how many tacles he puts in for the two prem games he has played this year and last year which indicate that he has mostly been as effective as all the other midfielders on top of having a better pass percentage.
He attempts as many tackles as the others and is as about as successful.And if he attempts it surely it can be regarded as closing down as it is with other players.
He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.
I've noticed him in our own half doing his bit plenty of times and for me he would walk straight back into the team probably at the expense of Tevez for me or Bellars if it had to be.

[Beeks]

He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.

Rag do you have to defend one player by (unjustly) slagging off another?

Plenty of Robbie lovers on here without your need for 'theatre'

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I dont go for this theory that some people have that Robson does no defending.
The Guardian chalkboards show how many tacles he puts in for the two prem games he has played this year and last year which indicate that he has mostly been as effective as all the other midfielders on top of having a better pass percentage.
He attempts as many tackles as the others and is as about as successful.And if he attempts it surely it can be regarded as closing down as it is with other players.
He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.
I've noticed him in our own half doing his bit plenty of times and for me he would walk straight back into the team probably at the expense of Tevez for me or Bellars if it had to be.

Agree for the most part, though for morale no one should walk back in, bring him on for a half hr cameo 1st. Against Blackburn and Wolves I thought he was doing his bit and putting in, once the stigma is attached though it's hard to lose.

[Rag_hater]

He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.

Rag do you have to defend one player by (unjustly) slagging off another?

Plenty of Robbie lovers on here without your need for 'theatre'

Not my fault your fickle and the slagging off of Robson that has gone on in this thread can be tolerated but somebody says a word against Saint Bellars and its unjust is it.
And calling him a headless chicken is not so bad considering some of the things he has been called on here.
Probably was a bit unkind to Bellars its probably all the swearing he does that contributes to his cannonization also.

[Beeks]

He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.

Rag do you have to defend one player by (unjustly) slagging off another?

Plenty of Robbie lovers on here without your need for 'theatre'

Not my fault your fickle and the slagging off of Robson that has gone on in this thread can be tolerated but somebody says a word against Saint Bellars and its unjust is it.
And calling him a headless chicken is not so bad considering some of the things he has been called on here.
Probably was a bit unkind to Bellars its probably all the swearing he does that contributes to his cannonization also.

A. If you bother to read the thread you will see I don't want Robbie to go

and

B. Bellers is playing out of his skin at the moment so why you think he deserves your vitreol on a thread that has nothing to do with him is completely beyond me

[Rag_hater]

He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.

Rag do you have to defend one player by (unjustly) slagging off another?

Plenty of Robbie lovers on here without your need for 'theatre'

Not my fault your fickle and the slagging off of Robson that has gone on in this thread can be tolerated but somebody says a word against Saint Bellars and its unjust is it.
And calling him a headless chicken is not so bad considering some of the things he has been called on here.
Probably was a bit unkind to Bellars its probably all the swearing he does that contributes to his cannonization also.

A. If you bother to read the thread you will see I don't want Robbie to go

and

B. Bellers is playing out of his skin at the moment so why you think he deserves your vitreol on a thread that has nothing to do with him is completely beyond me

What vitriol would that be?
And the reason why I've bought up Saint Bellamy is because him playing out of his skin deserves him keeping his place, according to some(maybe you).
However in the three games I have seen Robson play this year he in my opinion has played better than Bellamy, and so deserves his place back if it is at the expense of Bellamy.

[Original Dub]

Dropping Bellamy right now for anything other than a rest/injury would be stupid.

At the moment he is in the form of his life, scoring two against the premier league champions AWAY FROM HOME (very important part that), scoring against Villa AWAY FROM HOME, scoring for Wales AWAY FROM HOME and scoring against Arsenal as well as setting other goals up...

Again I'll say it - Dropping Bellamy right now now for ANYTHING other than a rest/injury would be stupid.

[crossan]

What about all of the Robinho 10 shirts that were sold should those fans get their dosh back?

[Dronny]

If Barca are after Robby and if we are serious about parting company with him (I hope not cos he will come back to haunt us in the Chumps League) then stuff Yaya, lets test their resolve with a cheeky bid for Xavi or Iniesta - or both?

How times have changed in such a short period of time, bloody Barca after a City player! We are not a selling club now and have no need to be, lets ruffle the Catalans and show them that we are not here at their beck and call.

[Rag_hater]

Dropping Bellamy right now for anything other than a rest/injury would be stupid.

At the moment he is in the form of his life, scoring two against the premier league champions AWAY FROM HOME (very important part that), scoring against Villa AWAY FROM HOME, scoring for Wales AWAY FROM HOME and scoring against Arsenal as well as setting other goals up...

Again I'll say it - Dropping Bellamy right now now for ANYTHING other than a rest/injury would be stupid.

Dropping him for somebody who is going to be better isnt so stupid.
Why hasnt there been any rumours about Barca wanting to swap Ya Ya for Bellars?

[razor400]

Maybe theseITKs should have thier very own user name colour maybe 'bullshit brown' or 'look at me, look at me day glo pink. Also change their tags to somethin like ' attention seeking twats'

[Sister of fu]

No one player is bigger than Manchester City Football Club and if he goes then we move on and get on with it. Im sure if City were willing to sell that Hughes will demand a replacment of high calibre and that Gary Cook and co would do evertthing in there power to do that. Im sure the wheels are already in motion if this is the case and Robson wants out.

[sky_blue_stew]

I don't want to see him leave. As was pointed out earlier in the thread, I think his presence in the squad could be crucial if we wish to lure more big names from the continent, rather than just Prem players who have a better understanding of where the club is going. As for whether Robinho is unhappy or not, or whether these are just rumours, who knows? I can easily imagine a Brazilian lad who's lived in Spain for so long could hate Manchester's climate. The other point is for any footballer Barcalona are an incredibly hard team to say no to once they've registered an interest. It's not the player' fault if his head is somewhat turned by the interest. But we could well expect his performances to dip if this is the case, and he could become a massively unsettled figure in the dresing room.

That leads us to a hypothetical dilemma - do we want to build up the Man City "brand", having world class footballers who may well not be playing at their best, in the hope that we can attract the biggest names and top quality players in the future, or do we want to build a settled team that can perform well but in a much less glamorous manner? It might take a little longer to conquer Europe that way, but would be a truer approach to football.

The second approach seems much more appealing. But all this rests on whether Robinho is genuinely unhappy.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

What about all of the Robinho 10 shirts that were sold should those fans get their dosh back?

I've got 2 myself. I said when he came every season a superstar of his calibre is willing to play at my club I'll wear his name.

[DoomMerchant]

He may not run aroound like a headless chicken which Bellars does a lot of the time and if thats what impresses the fans on here he has no chance.

Rag do you have to defend one player by (unjustly) slagging off another?

Plenty of Robbie lovers on here without your need for 'theatre'

Not my fault your fickle and the slagging off of Robson that has gone on in this thread can be tolerated but somebody says a word against Saint Bellars and its unjust is it.
And calling him a headless chicken is not so bad considering some of the things he has been called on here.
Probably was a bit unkind to Bellars its probably all the swearing he does that contributes to his cannonization also.

A. If you bother to read the thread you will see I don't want Robbie to go

and

B. Bellers is playing out of his skin at the moment so why you think he deserves your vitreol on a thread that has nothing to do with him is completely beyond me

What vitriol would that be?
And the reason why I've bought up Saint Bellamy is because him playing out of his skin deserves him keeping his place, according to some(maybe you).
However in the three games I have seen Robson play this year he in my opinion has played better than Bellamy, and so deserves his place back if it is at the expense of Bellamy.

playing him at the expense of Bellamy would be ridiculous. Honestly, Craig is one of the most in-form footballers in the world in the last month. I wouldn't fuck with that if i were a manager...Robson replaces someone else in the lineup surely before Bellamy...maybe even Tevez to be fair. I can't wait to find out tho. i'm like a kid at xmas.

cheers

[Rag_hater]

playing him at the expense of Bellamy would be ridiculous. Honestly, Craig is one of the most in-form footballers in the world in the last month. I wouldn't fuck with that if i were a manager...Robson replaces someone else in the lineup surely before Bellamy...maybe even Tevez to be fair. I can't wait to find out tho. i'm like a kid at xmas.

cheers[/quote]

If people think that loaning our Robson to Barca cos Bellamy is one of the most in form footballers in the world at the moment by his performances last month then people should wake up to some facts.
At the moment Craig is in about 7 or 8 place in the EPL with his goal scoring exploits.Not the most in form player at the moment, I think Torres is.A wankfest has begun about him cos he has a few goals.
Here in Spain, Tranny and Zlatan have scored 5 goals in La Liga and Villa has scored 6 so I think thats showing pretty good form.
Craig may well be in good form but I think Robson was in better form than him before he got injured and with Craig's history of injuries I think it would be a massive mistake to think we can let Robson go because Bellars is having a purple patch.
I have looked at Robson's tackling stats and they prove that he does as much as any other midfielder, so I dont think this accusation that is levelled at him that he has a poor work rate is accurate.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

IF we are considering letting Robi go , and I don't believe it for a minute , it would not be because Bellamy is having a great run of form.It would be because he wants to go and we can bring in replacements to be able to do without him.

I don't think he wants to go or that we want him to go. But it seems the norm to make up stories about a player who is out injured and somebody decides to make a thread of it for something to talk about.

[ronk]

IF we are considering letting Robi go , and I don't believe it for a minute , it would not be because Bellamy is having a great run of form.It would be because he wants to go and we can bring in replacements to be able to do without him.

I don't think he wants to go or that we want him to go. But it seems the norm to make up stories about a player who is out injured and somebody decides to make a thread of it for something to talk about.

Shows the difference in attitude from fans, doesn't it.

Barcelona send out a rumour about Fabregas and Robinho. Are Arsenal fans talking about how they don't really need Fabregas?

[Robinho_Is_GOD]

IF we are considering letting Robi go , and I don't believe it for a minute , it would not be because Bellamy is having a great run of form.It would be because he wants to go and we can bring in replacements to be able to do without him.

I don't think he wants to go or that we want him to go. But it seems the norm to make up stories about a player who is out injured and somebody decides to make a thread of it for something to talk about.

Shows the difference in attitude from fans, doesn't it.

Barcelona send out a rumour about Fabregas and Robinho. Are Arsenal fans talking about how they don't really need Fabregas?

Don't know are they