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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:14 am

Blue Blood wrote:I think even the most die hard scum fan would admit even they cannot have Nani, Valencia, Young and Sanchez on the books at the same time, even 3 of these would be a push.

Reasons;

Nani, the diving cheating twat, still was statistically the best player in the league last year, no chance in hell he'd accept being benched.

Young (pretty much certain to sign for the rags btw) also won't join with a view to bench warming given the number of other clubs lining up to have him start for them.

Even more so than Young, Sanchez will demand a starting place, 27-30 million players definitely aren't brought in to bench warm, especially those of his talent.

Valencia may be more open to a rotation role but realistically he'll soon tire of that, every player wants to start, the best even more so than the rest, no player will sit on the bench happy forever (Boateng being a good example)

Add to the conundrum that, Berba, Rooney still have to fit into the whole attacking ethos and a move for Sanchez just sounds ridiculous to me.

Conclusion;

Either Nani is being offloaded from the swamp, or it's total paper talk.


I don't quite buy your logic that a squad playing in four competitions can't accommodate four decent widemen.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:45 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Blue Blood wrote:I think even the most die hard scum fan would admit even they cannot have Nani, Valencia, Young and Sanchez on the books at the same time, even 3 of these would be a push.

Reasons;

Nani, the diving cheating twat, still was statistically the best player in the league last year, no chance in hell he'd accept being benched.

Young (pretty much certain to sign for the rags btw) also won't join with a view to bench warming given the number of other clubs lining up to have him start for them.

Even more so than Young, Sanchez will demand a starting place, 27-30 million players definitely aren't brought in to bench warm, especially those of his talent.

Valencia may be more open to a rotation role but realistically he'll soon tire of that, every player wants to start, the best even more so than the rest, no player will sit on the bench happy forever (Boateng being a good example)

Add to the conundrum that, Berba, Rooney still have to fit into the whole attacking ethos and a move for Sanchez just sounds ridiculous to me.

Conclusion;

Either Nani is being offloaded from the swamp, or it's total paper talk.


I don't quite buy your logic that a squad playing in four competitions can't accommodate four decent widemen.


Especially considering that wingers are probably the most substituted players in a football team. If they give 100% in both attack and defense, it's likely that by the 70 minute mark they are completely done.

Also, taggart has in recent years shown tendency to move wide players in to provide more pace inside so I'd assume he'd play Young more in central midfield.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Blue Blood » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:51 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Blue Blood wrote:I think even the most die hard scum fan would admit even they cannot have Nani, Valencia, Young and Sanchez on the books at the same time, even 3 of these would be a push.

Reasons;

Nani, the diving cheating twat, still was statistically the best player in the league last year, no chance in hell he'd accept being benched.

Young (pretty much certain to sign for the rags btw) also won't join with a view to bench warming given the number of other clubs lining up to have him start for them.

Even more so than Young, Sanchez will demand a starting place, 27-30 million players definitely aren't brought in to bench warm, especially those of his talent.

Valencia may be more open to a rotation role but realistically he'll soon tire of that, every player wants to start, the best even more so than the rest, no player will sit on the bench happy forever (Boateng being a good example)

Add to the conundrum that, Berba, Rooney still have to fit into the whole attacking ethos and a move for Sanchez just sounds ridiculous to me.

Conclusion;

Either Nani is being offloaded from the swamp, or it's total paper talk.


I don't quite buy your logic that a squad playing in four competitions can't accommodate four decent widemen.


Trouble is they are not 4 "decent" widemen, they are 4 widemen who would walk in starting spots at clubs at the pinnacles of their respective divisions across the world.

The scum would love this level of quality squad depth, my argument is can they realistically expect four players, some arguably hitting the peak years of their careers to be content in a rotation role, when there are offers which are potentially more beneficial to the players elsewhere.

This is what I am unsure of.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Chinners » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:07 am

I see no reason why they cannot have 4 wide men (not that I think it will be the 4 mentioned), we have 17 defensive midfield players and they all seem happy enough at the mo.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Slim » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:10 am

Is anyone concerned with the fact that all these moves are being made by our rivals and we appear to have done nine tenths of fuck all in the transfer market?
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby lets all have a disco » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:18 am

Slim wrote:Is anyone concerned with the fact that all these moves are being made by our rivals and we appear to have done nine tenths of fuck all in the transfer market?


I'm concerned about this fact,also about the fact that one of our main rivals seems to have stumbled on a chunk of cash from somewhere.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Wooders » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:24 am

considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Avalon » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:45 am

We should wrap this up quickly, as the longer this goes on, the more clubs are becoming interested. He's a wanted player and Udinese knows that, hence they're parading him around all these clubs.

For anybody who doesn't know him yet, or hasn't seen anything yet (shame on you):

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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:47 am

Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby JonnyAsh » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:28 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



I have faith that we are doing our business quietly in the background.That's the way it should be.


Either that, or everything is being 'cocked up'
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Scatman » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:31 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



I have faith that we are doing our business quietly in the background.That's the way it should be.


Either that, or everything is being 'cocked up'


All these stories about United buying all these players are coming from Garry Cook and he's just giving the wrong name by accident
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Avalon » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:37 pm

Scatman wrote:
JonnyAsh wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



I have faith that we are doing our business quietly in the background.That's the way it should be.


Either that, or everything is being 'cocked up'


All these stories about United buying all these players are coming from Garry Cook and he's just giving the wrong name by accident


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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Slim » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:11 pm

Scatman wrote:
JonnyAsh wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



I have faith that we are doing our business quietly in the background.That's the way it should be.


Either that, or everything is being 'cocked up'


All these stories about United buying all these players are coming from Garry Cook and he's just giving the wrong name by accident


Cook bottled it?
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby aaron bond » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:22 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Wooders wrote:considering we're all about getting business done early, this is a concern for me, however, past form suggests that signings come out of the woodwork suddenly and get done where we are concerned, whilst press conjecture goes on for months about certain players we seemed never to be in for in the first place
all I will say about sanchez is, the only thing I have heard from anyone actually associated with the club, is lombardi saying we're not interested as he seems more suited to playing in italy than the prem



I have faith that we are doing our business quietly in the background.That's the way it should be.


Either that, or everything is being 'cocked up'


Arsenal - bought no one
Chelsea - bought no one
Liverpool - Henderson £20m (absurd fee)
United - Jones £17m (absurd fee)
Spurs - Friedel

Why are people concerned we haven't bought anyone yet? I don't see anything to fear from our rivals' purchases so far, and they've hardly bought anyone.

We do our business quietly and so I don't expect to hear anything from the club until it's official. To be fair, the managers of our rival clubs haven't really said much about who they're buying either - it's just all media talk.

Do people honestly expect Khaldoon, Cook, Mancini and Marwood to be giving regular updates on how are transfers are going? I much prefer the way they're doing it.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby john@staustell » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Well said Meeeester Bond.

Can't believe people in panic yet again.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:39 pm

Agreed. Just checked and we definately dont play a meaningful game for nealy 8 weeks. Signings will happen, chill.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Slim » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:43 pm

john@staustell wrote:Well said Meeeester Bond.

Can't believe people in panic yet again.


Please point out who is in a "panic".

Or are you no better than gutter journo's blowing things out of proportion as well?
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby stevefromdonny » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:35 pm

im not in a panic, but didnt mancini say he wanted all his dealing in the transfer market done b4 they come back to pre season training, and that is about 19 days time, shouldnt we have at least 1-2 players in.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:26 pm

stevefromdonny wrote:im not in a panic, but didnt mancini say he wanted all his dealing in the transfer market done b4 they come back to pre season training, and that is about 19 days time, shouldnt we have at least 1-2 players in.


Isn't that what every manager always says.
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Re: ALEX SANCHEZ

Postby stevefromdonny » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:40 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
stevefromdonny wrote:im not in a panic, but didnt mancini say he wanted all his dealing in the transfer market done b4 they come back to pre season training, and that is about 19 days time, shouldnt we have at least 1-2 players in.


Isn't that what every manager always says.



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