Official ** U21s ** Euros ** Thread

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I think there's quite a difference. Obviously, the major spectacles, Le Mans over the weekend for instance, are shown everywhere, but Eurosport France & Germany covered the full England game, whereas the others didn't. And there's loads of Champions League football on Romanian Eurosport, but none in the UK/France/Germany/etc, where the exclusive rights are much more expensive.

http://tv.eurosport.fr/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.eurosport.de/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.eurosport.com/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.eurosport.se/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.eurosport.pl/tvschedule.shtml
http://tv.it.eurosport.com/tvschedule.shtml

Fair enough. I didn't know that.

What I do know though is that all the yuouth competitions, including U21 Euros, have always been shown on Eurosport here. Extremely pissed off actually as competitions like this is the reason why I actually pay money for it. Apart from football, there's precious few sports I watch regularily (snooker, NBA, american football, sailing) and they only offer snooker.

[Dameerto]

Sky were showing the U21's this time and they're bitches for exclusivity.

[Nigels Tackle]

a pretty poor display again tonight. starting midfield 3 of henderson, rodwell and mancienne were awful. rodwell replace by lansbury at h/t and rose in attack by sinclair led to slightly better second 45 but not much. henderson and mancienne are terrible - liverpool and hamburg have bought a couple of chumps..... sturridge looked decent, almost scored a cracking goal....

smalling and jones brilliant at the back. according to tyler...

0-0 by the way

[Blue2]

Poor perforamnce, noy much said when fatty Jones made Dunne style cock up which nearly cost us the game. If we had signed him it would have been " new mega bucks Manchester City signing very luckly with that one" Best player for me was Bertrand ( Chelsea)

[Nigels Tackle]

Poor perforamnce, noy much said when fatty Jones made Dunne style cock up which nearly cost us the game. If we had signed him it would have been " new mega bucks Manchester City signing very luckly with that one" Best player for me was Bertrand ( Chelsea)

bertrand looked decent. england have a fairly decent crop of full backs coming through.... micah, walker, gibbs, bertrand etc... and blue specs off, smalling looks like he could mature into a decent centre half... not many others in this squad look the 'business' though...

would have been interesting to see how we'd have performed with micah, gibbs, carroll and wilshere in the team....

[PeterParker]

Bertrand is still at Chelski? I thought he was co-owned with Forest.

[Blue2]

Poor perforamnce, noy much said when fatty Jones made Dunne style cock up which nearly cost us the game. If we had signed him it would have been " new mega bucks Manchester City signing very luckly with that one" Best player for me was Bertrand ( Chelsea)

bertrand looked decent. england have a fairly decent crop of full backs coming through.... micah, walker, gibbs, bertrand etc... and blue specs off, smalling looks like he could mature into a decent centre half... not many others in this squad look the 'business' though...

would have been interesting to see how we'd have performed with micah, gibbs, carroll and wilshere in the team....

I reckon that with them we would have won it, but not looking so good now.

[Alioune DVToure]

Welbeck was a bit off tonight but still looked dangerous. Sturridge had another good game. But I agree that we're lacking quality in midfield. Reminds me of our (City's) midfields c.2004-2007.

[Ted Hughes]

Sturridge looks head & shoulders better than all the attack/midfield put together imo.

Oh, and England under Pearce look EXACTLY like City under Pearce. The fucking social services should be brought in to stop people like him influencing young lads.

[Nigels Tackle]

Sturridge looks head & shoulders better than all the attack/midfield put together imo.

Oh, and England under Pearce look EXACTLY like City under Pearce. The fucking social services should be brought in to stop people like him influencing young lads.

agree 100%

pearce needs to be kept away from young boys

[Blueonblue]

Settle down boys, SP is doing the best job he can with what he has, not unlike he did with us for the same reason by the way*.

He has no midfield players worth a w*nk, neither Rodwell or mancienne will ever be anything but average ploders (Imo) and Henderson has only looked good in patches, not unusual in young players so the jury is still out on him

Look at the team he could have put out but for injuries or soft c*nts pleading their too f*cking tired, he can never win because as soon as players start to look good they are drafted up to the full England squad where they sit on the bench or get thrown to the wolves ( The same bunch of media c*nts that fill the pages with cry`s to give young players a chance).

The Germans and Spanish had the right idea, leave the youngsters together for a bit and let them settle as a team, not constantly have to change to pamper the media`s latest bandwaggon, it pays off in the long run because when they get their chance they are ready.



*SP took a lot of stick for the brilliant job he did at ours from some fans, but never gets credit off them for bringing in the curent England goalkepper for buttons, keeping Danny Sturidge when chelski were offering £3 million and a big jump in wages (Tossed away by that c*nt hughes ), bringing thro SWP and Richards, sort out a young Richard Dunne who went on to be our captain and player of the year four times, and all while the board was selling players and giving him no money to replace them.

He had started to build the correct way, from the back (Who says.......Brian Clough, Bill Shankley,and Big Mal to name but three) and yes it was dire at times, but the base was there to be built on and given the time I believe he would have turned out a very decent team

[Ted Hughes]

Settle down boys, SP is doing the best job he can with what he has, not unlike he did with us for the same reason by the way*.

He has no midfield players worth a w*nk, neither Rodwell or mancienne will ever be anything but average ploders (Imo) and Henderson has only looked good in patches, not unusual in young players so the jury is still out on him

Look at the team he could have put out but for injuries or soft c*nts pleading their too f*cking tired, he can never win because as soon as players start to look good they are drafted up to the full England squad where they sit on the bench or get thrown to the wolves ( The same bunch of media c*nts that fill the pages with cry`s to give young players a chance).

The Germans and Spanish had the right idea, leave the youngsters together for a bit and let them settle as a team, not constantly have to change to pamper the media`s latest bandwaggon, it pays off in the long run because when they get their chance they are ready.



*SP took a lot of stick for the brilliant job he did at ours from some fans, but never gets credit off them for bringing in the curent England goalkepper for buttons, keeping Danny Sturidge when chelski were offering £3 million and a big jump in wages (Tossed away by that c*nt hughes ), bringing thro SWP and Richards, sort out a young Richard Dunne who went on to be our captain and player of the year four times, and all while the board was selling players and giving him no money to replace them.

He had started to build the correct way, from the back (Who says.......Brian Clough, Bill Shankley,and Big Mal to name but three) and yes it was dire at times, but the base was there to be built on and given the time I believe he would have turned out a very decent team

What a load of absolute shite. He didn't fucking build anything, the players were already there before he got the job! He just bought Samaras to put the fucking tin hat on it. Do you actually watch City? It was Keegan who sorted Dunne out, not Pearce. If you put Pearce in charge of fucking Barcelona they would play exactly the same way, just as Forest did when he fucked them up forever. He is a fucking troglodyte, who should only be employed, as he was under Keegan; as a defensive coach. NEVER as anything else.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

*SP took a lot of stick for the brilliant job he did at ours from some fans, but never gets credit off them for bringing in the curent England goalkepper for buttons, keeping Danny Sturidge when chelski were offering £3 million and a big jump in wages (Tossed away by that c*nt hughes ), bringing thro SWP and Richards, sort out a young Richard Dunne who went on to be our captain and player of the year four times, and all while the board was selling players and giving him no money to replace them.

He had started to build the correct way, from the back (Who says.......Brian Clough, Bill Shankley,and Big Mal to name but three) and yes it was dire at times, but the base was there to be built on and given the time I believe he would have turned out a very decent team

This is biggest load of steaming shite I've seen here in a good while.

SWP, Richards and Dunne were all in the club well before Pearce and especially in SWP's and Dunne's case it's Keegan you need to thank. Joe Hart was signed when Tim Flowers came in as goalkeeping coach as a project for him. Flowers had asked them to bring Hart in. Lot of good Sturridge did for us.

Pearce wasn't building shit. He just put 9 players behind the ball unorganized and hoped for the best. Tactically absolutely fucking horrible. To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth.

Edit. Just noticed Ted's post. Agree with all of that. If he'd be manager of Barcelona, he'd still have 9 players behind the ball. That is a FACT. Being shit and playing tactically fucking awfull football doesn't have to go hand in hand.

Oh, and I went through trouble of watching the season video of Pearce's last season in charge while back. Now everyone here knows I love nothing more than to sit on my couch and watch football in every shape and form. And watching anything to do with City is like cherry on top of that sweet ice cream. Watching that season vid made me want to go to kitchen and dig my eyes out with a spoon. That's how bad it was.

[Blueonblue]

As I said, some of "Our" fans will never give him any credit, even while Keagan was manager it was SP who was the influence on the training sesions.

"To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth".

All three were advocates and influences of how SP went about building the team, all three did exactly the same thing, and faced the same abuse for doing it in the early stages of the teams they built............they all have books out, read them and see ;0)

[Alioune DVToure]

As I said, some of "Our" fans will never give him any credit, even while Keagan was manager it was SP who was the influence on the training sesions.

"To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth".

[highlight]All three were advocates and influences of how SP went about building the team[/highlight], all three did exactly the same thing, and faced the same abuse for doing it in the early stages of the teams they built............they all have books out, read them and see ;0)

Are you a séance? I'd love to know how you've ascertained that Bill Shankly and Brian Clough were giving Pearce a posthumous thumbs up for his work.

[Ted Hughes]

As I said, some of "Our" fans will never give him any credit, even while Keagan was manager it was SP who was the influence on the training sesions.

"To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth".

All three were advocates and influences of how SP went about building the team, all three did exactly the same thing, and faced the same abuse for doing it in the early stages of the teams they built............they all have books out, read them and see ;0)

Pearce helped SWP & Dunne, that is undeniable, but he did it as A COACH, under instruction of Keegan, who was the manager. Keegan himself often ran the training sessions & shouted out many of the instructions personally, even in some of the warm up stuff. Pearce was mainly a water carrier & used put out cones. No doubt his experience as a defender came in handy when used to coach in that capacity but in other things he was way below the standard of the people Bob has now.

Pearce is a disaster as a manager & should not be allowed to do the job.

[Scatman]

As I said, some of "Our" fans will never give him any credit, even while Keagan was manager it was SP who was the influence on the training sesions.

"To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth".

All three were advocates and influences of how SP went about building the team, all three did exactly the same thing, and faced the same abuse for doing it in the early stages of the teams they built............they all have books out, read them and see ;0)

Pearce helped SWP & Dunne, that is undeniable, but he did it as A COACH, under instruction of Keegan, who was the manager. Keegan himself often ran the training sessions & shouted out many of the instructions personally, even in some of the warm up stuff. Pearce was mainly a water carrier & used put out cones. No doubt his experience as a defender came in handy when used to coach in that capacity but in other things he was way below the standard of the people Bob has now.

Pearce is a disaster as a manager & should not be allowed to do the job.

he was a pretty shit plumber as well

[Alioune DVToure]

I read somewhere that Guidetti's bagged a couple already. Anyone watched any Sweden matches?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

As I said, some of "Our" fans will never give him any credit, even while Keagan was manager it was SP who was the influence on the training sesions.

"To even mention Pearce in same sentence with managerial greats like Big Mal, Shankley and Clough is nothing short of blasphemy. Wash your mouth".

All three were advocates and influences of how SP went about building the team, all three did exactly the same thing, and faced the same abuse for doing it in the early stages of the teams they built............they all have books out, read them and see ;0)

What the FUCK?? I'm not sure if you're on a wind up or now but trust me, I've read enough books about all of them and yes, I can even remember latter days of Clough's career (which wasn't pretty for the most parts mind). Clough was probably rolling in his grave seeing what kind of football Pearce tried to have us playing.

Oh, and unlike Pearce, Clough and Shankly were tactical masterminds and succesfull, although with lower league clubs, from the get go. They NEVER had 9 players rooted behind the ball. EVER.

If you honestly think Pearce was trying to do something clever, or to be precise "cute", then you are simply beyond help.

[1950]

I read somewhere that Guidetti's bagged a couple already. Anyone watched any Sweden matches?

In this tournament? Sweden's not in it. I think he played mainly in the U19, but was called up for the odd U21 qualifier. Didn't score though.