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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby aaron bond » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:04 pm

Twobob wrote:
avoidconfusion wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:
We also have a goalkeeper who wants to go (Given) and Arsenal need a new goalkeeper. Surely this could also be used as part of a deal and to convince Wenger to sell Nasri to us, rather than the Scum.


Very good point. Given+Cash firmly puts the advantage into our court... now it all depends on whether or not Nasri would be interested in joining City...


I dont know, Given would be a great addition for them - I'd much prefer to allow Wenger loose on taking a gamble with a keeper from some obscure club in the European backwaters for 500K than send Given to them


If we sell Given to Arsenal, when we play them put Dzeko up front and make sure we put plenty of crosses in! For every corner, put all our big players in the area and get the ball in the box! Arsenal are poor in the air and Given doesn't come off his line. Easy peasy :-)
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby CityGer » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:24 pm

Given won't be any sort of bargaining tool in this.

The situation with Nasri's contract means that It will come down purely to where Nasri wants to go. Can Arsenal afford to play hard ball with him and only deal with us because we're offering Given? No chance, it could cost them £20Mil.

Nasri holds all the cards and Arsenal will end up doing a deal with the club he wants to go to
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Green & Blue » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:34 pm

Would be a huge moral defeat for Wenger to lose Nasri to Baconface.If it happens i think thats it from Wenger he's basically thrown in the towel.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Blue Blood » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:13 pm

Green & Blue wrote:Would be a huge moral defeat for Wenger to lose Nasri to Baconface.If it happens i think thats it from Wenger he's basically thrown in the towel.


Yup, my thoughts also.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:45 am

CityGer wrote:Given won't be any sort of bargaining tool in this.

The situation with Nasri's contract means that It will come down purely to where Nasri wants to go. Can Arsenal afford to play hard ball with him and only deal with us because we're offering Given? No chance, it could cost them £20Mil.

Nasri holds all the cards and Arsenal will end up doing a deal with the club he wants to go to


That's how it's going to go. Arsenal can't even afford to decide to sell him to highest bidder. If we bid 25m and Chelsea bid 20 and Nasri wants to go to Chelsea then they'll sell him to Chelsea. Otherwise he'll leave for nowt next summer and everyone knows Arsenal are financially shrewd club and will not let that happen.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:18 am

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/70253 ... yet-Report

Ok.

So we have never even bid for him. Another bullshit story.

Still early in transfer window but it will be intriguing to see who we actually go for. Clichy was alright signing but nothing out of this world. There's also slight possibility that Mancini is relatively happy with what he has got and we were never aiming to do any mega deals this summer.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:39 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/7025305/No-firm-Nasri-bids-yet-Report

Ok.

So we have never even bid for him. Another bullshit story.

Still early in transfer window but it will be intriguing to see who we actually go for. Clichy was alright signing but nothing out of this world. There's also slight possibility that Mancini is relatively happy with what he has got and we were never aiming to do any mega deals this summer.


i have no idea how Mancini truly feels, but if the Italian press bollox is to be half believed i'd suggest he "expects" a big signing or two. in fact i'd be surprised if we don't land either nasri or aguero based on our needs. i feel impatient like you probably do....not sure what we're waiting for with all the dosh we should have lined up to get the best and brightest to come to "The Etihad."

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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:45 am

No, Mancini is definitely not happy with the squad he has, he was even saying that before we'd qualified. He wants big players in.

So many people have been on holiday, still playing, etc. Some teams will want to be sure they can get replacements before they let the players go. I'm sure we'll pull a couple of good 'uns out of the bag. It would have been preferrable to get them sooner but very few big international deals have been done so far. Just mediocre domestic stuff. Even Barca can't sort anything yet.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby ashton287 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:39 am

Ted Hughes wrote:No, Mancini is definitely not happy with the squad he has, he was even saying that before we'd qualified. He wants big players in.

So many people have been on holiday, still playing, etc. Some teams will want to be sure they can get replacements before they let the players go. I'm sure we'll pull a couple of good 'uns out of the bag. It would have been preferrable to get them sooner but very few big international deals have been done so far. Just mediocre domestic stuff. Even Barca can't sort anything yet.


That last bit is actually pretty reassuring.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby guv111 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:39 am

Re. the impatience some of us are feeling at the lack - so far - of exciting new signings, could it be that City have become a little wary of Mancini's purchases? I'm of the opinion that Mark Hughes was sacked as much for some dubious signings, and proposed signings, as he was for results. While I have no doubt that Mancini has earned at least another season as City manager, the Serie A players he's been mentioning haven't been quite what we have become accustomed to after those halcyon days of the summer of 2009. Could there be a little bit of Khaldoon Al Mubarak that views Mancini and his targets with suspicion?
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Wooders » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:44 am

I'm quite sure given we can't get rid of some of the fluff Hughes signed they are being fairly hesitant, and rightly so, nasri/mata and aguero once tevez leaves is all we truly need to be prepped for next season IMO
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:49 am

guv111 wrote:Re. the impatience some of us are feeling at the lack - so far - of exciting new signings, could it be that City have become a little wary of Mancini's purchases? I'm of the opinion that Mark Hughes was sacked as much for some dubious signings, and proposed signings, as he was for results. While I have no doubt that Mancini has earned at least another season as City manager, the Serie A players he's been mentioning haven't been quite what we have become accustomed to after those halcyon days of the summer of 2009. Could there be a little bit of Khaldoon Al Mubarak that views Mancini and his targets with suspicion?


Absolutely not. We have director of football in Bryan Marwood and it's he who makes these decisions. I'm sure Mancini can veto some deals and can throw in some suggestions but we are not run like football clubs used to be where manager made all the calls from player purchases to colour of the fence around the training ground.

Wooders wrote:I'm quite sure given we can't get rid of some of the fluff Hughes signed they are being fairly hesitant, and rightly so, nasri/mata and aguero once tevez leaves is all we truly need to be prepped for next season IMO


I absolutely agree with this. Positive central midfield player and Aguero to take over Tevez role and that's all we need really imo. But these are mindblowingly big deals we are talking about. Between 20-40m. And then there's the trouble of finding buyer for Tevez.

But yeah, core of the team is sorted. We need that bit of magic though.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:04 am

Mancini has just come out publicly, only this week & stated that he is fully responsible for who we sign & that we operate much different to the way he used to in Italy; he has much more power at City. He is involved in everything, even some bits the negotiations.

He clearly said that he decides who we're signing & then hands it over to the business men to go & try to get them.

We have people in the organisation who watch players & get information on them & alert Mancini as to their qualities, in case he is interested. I'm pretty sure that's headed by the same bloke who was doing it when Hughes was here.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:17 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Mancini has just come out publicly, only this week & stated that he is fully responsible for who we sign & that we operate much different to the way he used to in Italy; he has much more power at City. He is involved in everything, even some bits the negotiations.

He clearly said that he decides who we're signing & then hands it over to the business men to go & try to get them.

We have people in the organisation who watch players & get information on them & alert Mancini as to their qualities, in case he is interested. I'm pretty sure that's headed by the same bloke who was doing it when Hughes was here.


Where'd he say that?
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:25 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Mancini has just come out publicly, only this week & stated that he is fully responsible for who we sign & that we operate much different to the way he used to in Italy; he has much more power at City. He is involved in everything, even some bits the negotiations.

He clearly said that he decides who we're signing & then hands it over to the business men to go & try to get them.

We have people in the organisation who watch players & get information on them & alert Mancini as to their qualities, in case he is interested. I'm pretty sure that's headed by the same bloke who was doing it when Hughes was here.


Where'd he say that?


Dunno now, he did a fairly big interview recently (probably whilst pissed on red wine!) but he clarified the position. He may have said it more than once actually. He said recently that he'd spoken to Sanchez & then we'd made a final offer, so he was actually involved in the negotiations there.

I think it's good that he's involved because an ex player with his rep must be a better selling point for the club than Cook etc.
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby aaron bond » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:29 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Mancini has just come out publicly, only this week & stated that he is fully responsible for who we sign & that we operate much different to the way he used to in Italy; he has much more power at City. He is involved in everything, even some bits the negotiations.

He clearly said that he decides who we're signing & then hands it over to the business men to go & try to get them.

We have people in the organisation who watch players & get information on them & alert Mancini as to their qualities, in case he is interested. I'm pretty sure that's headed by the same bloke who was doing it when Hughes was here.


Where'd he say that?


Dunno now, he did a fairly big interview recently (probably whilst pissed on red wine!) but he clarified the position. He may have said it more than once actually. He said recently that he'd spoken to Sanchez & then we'd made a final offer, so he was actually involved in the negotiations there.

I think it's good that he's involved because an ex player with his rep must be a better selling point for the club than Cook etc.


Ted - I too cannot remember where I read that! But I definitely read that somewhere in the last week!!!
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Wooders » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:35 am

football italia was the original source I think
was all over newsnow for a few days
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby Ezz » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Sky italia are reporting a 23m fee agreed now. (From bbc transfer gossip)
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby dazby » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:29 am

What's the deal with this guy? I've seen him score some sweet goals at the beginning of last season. Is he the ducks nuts though? Is he worth chasing?
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Re: Continued from Nasri thread

Postby s1ty m » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:13 am

Nasri would be a really good signing. I like these small, tricky players like him and David Silva, stuff always seems to happen when they get on the ball. It's entertaining. If there is any truth in the Eto'o and Agero talk, with Nasri too, I can see us being a major handful for anyone. I thought City looked like the best team in England at the end of last season, after the Liverpool debacle; finishing with the most clean sheets was brilliant. These players would make us genuine contenders for the title.
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