Svensational wrote:I seriously think we are holding out for a bid for about £45m so we can just slap that in Athleticos faces for Aguero.
Wonderwall wrote:As far as I am aware, we would have to pay Tevez a serious amount of cash too. He has not officially handed in a transfer request, so unless we have it in WRITING, there is nothing to discuss.
Slim wrote:Svensational wrote:I seriously think we are holding out for a bid for about £45m so we can just slap that in Athleticos faces for Aguero.
He is about the only player on the planet who could replace Tevez, even then you have to wonder.
saulman wrote:Slim wrote:Svensational wrote:I seriously think we are holding out for a bid for about £45m so we can just slap that in Athleticos faces for Aguero.
He is about the only player on the planet who could replace Tevez, even then you have to wonder.
If this really is the case, then why not just a straight swap? I'm sure Athletico would bite our hand off.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:saulman wrote:Slim wrote:Svensational wrote:I seriously think we are holding out for a bid for about £45m so we can just slap that in Athleticos faces for Aguero.
He is about the only player on the planet who could replace Tevez, even then you have to wonder.
If this really is the case, then why not just a straight swap? I'm sure Athletico would bite our hand off.
Athletico are relatively poor club. There's no chance they'd afford Tevez' wages.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:saulman wrote:Slim wrote:Svensational wrote:I seriously think we are holding out for a bid for about £45m so we can just slap that in Athleticos faces for Aguero.
He is about the only player on the planet who could replace Tevez, even then you have to wonder.
If this really is the case, then why not just a straight swap? I'm sure Athletico would bite our hand off.
Athletico are relatively poor club. There's no chance they'd afford Tevez' wages.
I was hoping for a deal here somewhere and Vlad Weiss thrown in to help make it happen.
Bluez wrote:Wonderwall wrote:As far as I am aware, we would have to pay Tevez a serious amount of cash too. He has not officially handed in a transfer request, so unless we have it in WRITING, there is nothing to discuss.
That's my understanding as well and it would be absolutely sickening. If a player doesnn't make a written transfer request and are sold they are entitled to a "loyalty" bonus. Makes you want to weep. It's often the reason players go to the press, moan like crazy, even go on strike but do not hand in a transfer request.
Tevez is a perfect example, definitely wants to go, but doesn't want to officially ask as it will hit his pocket. Modric is another.
On the pitch Tevez is pretty much irreplaceable, and the fact he is a pain in the arse off the pitch won't change that. The question is just how much off field disruption can we take before it affects the whole team? I would still strip him of the captaincy and hold out for a minimum of 45 mil.
Tokyo Blue wrote:Bluez wrote:Wonderwall wrote:As far as I am aware, we would have to pay Tevez a serious amount of cash too. He has not officially handed in a transfer request, so unless we have it in WRITING, there is nothing to discuss.
That's my understanding as well and it would be absolutely sickening. If a player doesnn't make a written transfer request and are sold they are entitled to a "loyalty" bonus. Makes you want to weep. It's often the reason players go to the press, moan like crazy, even go on strike but do not hand in a transfer request.
Tevez is a perfect example, definitely wants to go, but doesn't want to officially ask as it will hit his pocket. Modric is another.
On the pitch Tevez is pretty much irreplaceable, and the fact he is a pain in the arse off the pitch won't change that. The question is just how much off field disruption can we take before it affects the whole team? I would still strip him of the captaincy and hold out for a minimum of 45 mil.
Didn't he put a written request in over Christmas?
ENIAM NAM wrote:http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7035599,00.html?
More quotes to say Aguero is def leaving and it will be at the end of the Copa America.
avoidconfusion wrote:Some guy from the BBC tweeted that Kia said there will be an improved offer from Corinthians within the next 48 hours.
avoidconfusion wrote:Some guy from the BBC tweeted that Kia said there will be an improved offer from Corinthians within the next 48 hours.
Jon London wrote:Last week I would have thought this story ridiculous but I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil on business and the economy is booming. Sao Paulo is the home of Corinthians and is a rich city believe me. For example there are 2000 private helicopters in this City, cars cost more than the UK, for example a Ford Fusion - similar to a Mondeo - is £40,000 new and the dealers are sold out. To eat out is more expensive than London, Manchester, New York, LA. Neymar - who plays for Santos (the other team in Sao Paulo) - is on £55k a week (OK Tevez's salary dwarfs this) but Tevez is the finished article so it is possible that Tevez could still be handsomely rewarded to play for Corinthians especially if he can negotiate image rights and a cut of the increased attendances. I guess the only stumbling block is the transfer fee but you have businessmen stumping up £30M to open car dealerships in Sao Paulo - I believe it possible. Also remember too that the World Cup comes to Brazil in two years time - its tempting for sure for Tevez to already be based in Brazil. Sao Paulo is only 2 1/2 hours by plane to Buenos Aires.
The World Cup too will boost the local economy and the Brazilian economy and there is expected to be a change in government in next few years and locals expect the economy to grow at a very fast rate also because of this. It is more and more likely that South American stars will come to play their football again in Brazil. In the past it was fat blobs like Ronaldo but Tevez now could help change the landscape.
Why not Tevez to go to Argentina? Argentina's economy is not the same as the Brazil's economy. Argentina is a poorer country. 10 or so years ago the Argentina government took everyones savings - the country has a long way to catch up. The only country in South America that could come close to providing a club and a superb lifestyle for Tevez is Brazil.
Was Tevez at home at Corinthians? That is my only doubt. I have heard stories from Corinthian fans that Tevez used to eat alone in the team hotel. However, It is clear that being close to his daughers would be a huge plus. From the birth of his first daughter he was besotted with his kids so much so that I am told by the equivalent of Dougie Higginbottom that Tevez once showed up to Corinthian training with his then 3 month old daughter in his arms. Maybe that is the answer a creche at Carrington for Tevez's kids
I want Tevez to stay. We lost stupid games without Tevez like Wolves away and arguably if Tevez had not been injured against Liverpool we might have got back in that game too. However, the story is not as crazy as it first sounds for some of the reasons already given. Tevez would be a hero at Corinthians (put it this way the local Corinthians fans were even writing me cheques to take back to Manchester City to help pay for Tevez's transfer fee), and Tevez would boost the sale of TV rights for Corinthians and for the Brazilian championship both to Brazil TV stations and to other countries too. Sponsors would be falling over each other to be writing big fat cheques too. I am told too that there are over 25 million Corinthian fans in Brazil - thats one billion pounds in shirt sales if they all buy a Corinthians shirt with Tevez on the back.
Wonderwall wrote:Jon London wrote:Last week I would have thought this story ridiculous but I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil on business and the economy is booming. Sao Paulo is the home of Corinthians and is a rich city believe me. For example there are 2000 private helicopters in this City, cars cost more than the UK, for example a Ford Fusion - similar to a Mondeo - is £40,000 new and the dealers are sold out. To eat out is more expensive than London, Manchester, New York, LA. Neymar - who plays for Santos (the other team in Sao Paulo) - is on £55k a week (OK Tevez's salary dwarfs this) but Tevez is the finished article so it is possible that Tevez could still be handsomely rewarded to play for Corinthians especially if he can negotiate image rights and a cut of the increased attendances. I guess the only stumbling block is the transfer fee but you have businessmen stumping up £30M to open car dealerships in Sao Paulo - I believe it possible. Also remember too that the World Cup comes to Brazil in two years time - its tempting for sure for Tevez to already be based in Brazil. Sao Paulo is only 2 1/2 hours by plane to Buenos Aires.
The World Cup too will boost the local economy and the Brazilian economy and there is expected to be a change in government in next few years and locals expect the economy to grow at a very fast rate also because of this. It is more and more likely that South American stars will come to play their football again in Brazil. In the past it was fat blobs like Ronaldo but Tevez now could help change the landscape.
Why not Tevez to go to Argentina? Argentina's economy is not the same as the Brazil's economy. Argentina is a poorer country. 10 or so years ago the Argentina government took everyones savings - the country has a long way to catch up. The only country in South America that could come close to providing a club and a superb lifestyle for Tevez is Brazil.
Was Tevez at home at Corinthians? That is my only doubt. I have heard stories from Corinthian fans that Tevez used to eat alone in the team hotel. However, It is clear that being close to his daughers would be a huge plus. From the birth of his first daughter he was besotted with his kids so much so that I am told by the equivalent of Dougie Higginbottom that Tevez once showed up to Corinthian training with his then 3 month old daughter in his arms. Maybe that is the answer a creche at Carrington for Tevez's kids
I want Tevez to stay. We lost stupid games without Tevez like Wolves away and arguably if Tevez had not been injured against Liverpool we might have got back in that game too. However, the story is not as crazy as it first sounds for some of the reasons already given. Tevez would be a hero at Corinthians (put it this way the local Corinthians fans were even writing me cheques to take back to Manchester City to help pay for Tevez's transfer fee), and Tevez would boost the sale of TV rights for Corinthians and for the Brazilian championship both to Brazil TV stations and to other countries too. Sponsors would be falling over each other to be writing big fat cheques too. I am told too that there are over 25 million Corinthian fans in Brazil - thats one billion pounds in shirt sales if they all buy a Corinthians shirt with Tevez on the back.
Cheers mate, never realised Brazil was as upbeat as that, I watched Ross Kemp the other week and he painted a very different picture. However, if they are stupid enough to pay £40k for a new Ford Fusion, then we need to hold out for £60m.
Wonderwall wrote:Jon London wrote:Last week I would have thought this story ridiculous but I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil on business and the economy is booming. Sao Paulo is the home of Corinthians and is a rich city believe me. For example there are 2000 private helicopters in this City, cars cost more than the UK, for example a Ford Fusion - similar to a Mondeo - is £40,000 new and the dealers are sold out. To eat out is more expensive than London, Manchester, New York, LA. Neymar - who plays for Santos (the other team in Sao Paulo) - is on £55k a week (OK Tevez's salary dwarfs this) but Tevez is the finished article so it is possible that Tevez could still be handsomely rewarded to play for Corinthians especially if he can negotiate image rights and a cut of the increased attendances. I guess the only stumbling block is the transfer fee but you have businessmen stumping up £30M to open car dealerships in Sao Paulo - I believe it possible. Also remember too that the World Cup comes to Brazil in two years time - its tempting for sure for Tevez to already be based in Brazil. Sao Paulo is only 2 1/2 hours by plane to Buenos Aires.
The World Cup too will boost the local economy and the Brazilian economy and there is expected to be a change in government in next few years and locals expect the economy to grow at a very fast rate also because of this. It is more and more likely that South American stars will come to play their football again in Brazil. In the past it was fat blobs like Ronaldo but Tevez now could help change the landscape.
Why not Tevez to go to Argentina? Argentina's economy is not the same as the Brazil's economy. Argentina is a poorer country. 10 or so years ago the Argentina government took everyones savings - the country has a long way to catch up. The only country in South America that could come close to providing a club and a superb lifestyle for Tevez is Brazil.
Was Tevez at home at Corinthians? That is my only doubt. I have heard stories from Corinthian fans that Tevez used to eat alone in the team hotel. However, It is clear that being close to his daughers would be a huge plus. From the birth of his first daughter he was besotted with his kids so much so that I am told by the equivalent of Dougie Higginbottom that Tevez once showed up to Corinthian training with his then 3 month old daughter in his arms. Maybe that is the answer a creche at Carrington for Tevez's kids
I want Tevez to stay. We lost stupid games without Tevez like Wolves away and arguably if Tevez had not been injured against Liverpool we might have got back in that game too. However, the story is not as crazy as it first sounds for some of the reasons already given. Tevez would be a hero at Corinthians (put it this way the local Corinthians fans were even writing me cheques to take back to Manchester City to help pay for Tevez's transfer fee), and Tevez would boost the sale of TV rights for Corinthians and for the Brazilian championship both to Brazil TV stations and to other countries too. Sponsors would be falling over each other to be writing big fat cheques too. I am told too that there are over 25 million Corinthian fans in Brazil - thats one billion pounds in shirt sales if they all buy a Corinthians shirt with Tevez on the back.
Cheers mate, never realised Brazil was as upbeat as that, I watched Ross Kemp the other week and he painted a very different picture. However, if they are stupid enough to pay £40k for a new Ford Fusion, then we need to hold out for £60m.
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