
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Jon London wrote:Last week I would have thought this story ridiculous but I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil on business and the economy is booming. Sao Paulo is the home of Corinthians and is a rich city believe me. For example there are 2000 private helicopters in this City, cars cost more than the UK, for example a Ford Fusion - similar to a Mondeo - is £40,000 new and the dealers are sold out. To eat out is more expensive than London, Manchester, New York, LA. Neymar - who plays for Santos (the other team in Sao Paulo) - is on £55k a week (OK Tevez's salary dwarfs this) but Tevez is the finished article so it is possible that Tevez could still be handsomely rewarded to play for Corinthians especially if he can negotiate image rights and a cut of the increased attendances. I guess the only stumbling block is the transfer fee but you have businessmen stumping up £30M to open car dealerships in Sao Paulo - I believe it possible. Also remember too that the World Cup comes to Brazil in two years time - its tempting for sure for Tevez to already be based in Brazil. Sao Paulo is only 2 1/2 hours by plane to Buenos Aires.
The World Cup too will boost the local economy and the Brazilian economy and there is expected to be a change in government in next few years and locals expect the economy to grow at a very fast rate also because of this. It is more and more likely that South American stars will come to play their football again in Brazil. In the past it was fat blobs like Ronaldo but Tevez now could help change the landscape.
Why not Tevez to go to Argentina? Argentina's economy is not the same as the Brazil's economy. Argentina is a poorer country. 10 or so years ago the Argentina government took everyones savings - the country has a long way to catch up. The only country in South America that could come close to providing a club and a superb lifestyle for Tevez is Brazil.
Was Tevez at home at Corinthians? That is my only doubt. I have heard stories from Corinthian fans that Tevez used to eat alone in the team hotel. However, It is clear that being close to his daughers would be a huge plus. From the birth of his first daughter he was besotted with his kids so much so that I am told by the equivalent of Dougie Higginbottom that Tevez once showed up to Corinthian training with his then 3 month old daughter in his arms. Maybe that is the answer a creche at Carrington for Tevez's kids
I want Tevez to stay. We lost stupid games without Tevez like Wolves away and arguably if Tevez had not been injured against Liverpool we might have got back in that game too. However, the story is not as crazy as it first sounds for some of the reasons already given. Tevez would be a hero at Corinthians (put it this way the local Corinthians fans were even writing me cheques to take back to Manchester City to help pay for Tevez's transfer fee), and Tevez would boost the sale of TV rights for Corinthians and for the Brazilian championship both to Brazil TV stations and to other countries too. Sponsors would be falling over each other to be writing big fat cheques too. I am told too that there are over 25 million Corinthian fans in Brazil - thats one billion pounds in shirt sales if they all buy a Corinthians shirt with Tevez on the back.
Cheers mate, never realised Brazil was as upbeat as that, I watched Ross Kemp the other week and he painted a very different picture. However, if they are stupid enough to pay £40k for a new Ford Fusion, then we need to hold out for £60m.
Mate, Brazil is country of extremes. There are both very wealthy people and extremely poor. Living in side by side areas.
A friend of missus was Portuguese major in university and has spent years of her life in Brazil. She keeps saying that the difference between rich and poor is something you simply can't understand fromk Europeans point of view. She says that weird thing is that there seems to be no middle classes or even work class. Either you are filthy rich/doing very very well off, which is apparently the case with most professionals or you are dirt poor living in a gutter.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Jon London wrote:Last week I would have thought this story ridiculous but I was in Sao Paulo, Brazil on business and the economy is booming. Sao Paulo is the home of Corinthians and is a rich city believe me. For example there are 2000 private helicopters in this City, cars cost more than the UK, for example a Ford Fusion - similar to a Mondeo - is £40,000 new and the dealers are sold out. To eat out is more expensive than London, Manchester, New York, LA. Neymar - who plays for Santos (the other team in Sao Paulo) - is on £55k a week (OK Tevez's salary dwarfs this) but Tevez is the finished article so it is possible that Tevez could still be handsomely rewarded to play for Corinthians especially if he can negotiate image rights and a cut of the increased attendances. I guess the only stumbling block is the transfer fee but you have businessmen stumping up £30M to open car dealerships in Sao Paulo - I believe it possible. Also remember too that the World Cup comes to Brazil in two years time - its tempting for sure for Tevez to already be based in Brazil. Sao Paulo is only 2 1/2 hours by plane to Buenos Aires.
The World Cup too will boost the local economy and the Brazilian economy and there is expected to be a change in government in next few years and locals expect the economy to grow at a very fast rate also because of this. It is more and more likely that South American stars will come to play their football again in Brazil. In the past it was fat blobs like Ronaldo but Tevez now could help change the landscape.
Why not Tevez to go to Argentina? Argentina's economy is not the same as the Brazil's economy. Argentina is a poorer country. 10 or so years ago the Argentina government took everyones savings - the country has a long way to catch up. The only country in South America that could come close to providing a club and a superb lifestyle for Tevez is Brazil.
Was Tevez at home at Corinthians? That is my only doubt. I have heard stories from Corinthian fans that Tevez used to eat alone in the team hotel. However, It is clear that being close to his daughers would be a huge plus. From the birth of his first daughter he was besotted with his kids so much so that I am told by the equivalent of Dougie Higginbottom that Tevez once showed up to Corinthian training with his then 3 month old daughter in his arms. Maybe that is the answer a creche at Carrington for Tevez's kids
I want Tevez to stay. We lost stupid games without Tevez like Wolves away and arguably if Tevez had not been injured against Liverpool we might have got back in that game too. However, the story is not as crazy as it first sounds for some of the reasons already given. Tevez would be a hero at Corinthians (put it this way the local Corinthians fans were even writing me cheques to take back to Manchester City to help pay for Tevez's transfer fee), and Tevez would boost the sale of TV rights for Corinthians and for the Brazilian championship both to Brazil TV stations and to other countries too. Sponsors would be falling over each other to be writing big fat cheques too. I am told too that there are over 25 million Corinthian fans in Brazil - thats one billion pounds in shirt sales if they all buy a Corinthians shirt with Tevez on the back.
Cheers mate, never realised Brazil was as upbeat as that, I watched Ross Kemp the other week and he painted a very different picture. However, if they are stupid enough to pay £40k for a new Ford Fusion, then we need to hold out for £60m.
Mate, Brazil is country of extremes. There are both very wealthy people and extremely poor. Living in side by side areas.
A friend of missus was Portuguese major in university and has spent years of her life in Brazil. She keeps saying that the difference between rich and poor is something you simply can't understand fromk Europeans point of view. She says that weird thing is that there seems to be no middle classes or even work class. Either you are filthy rich/doing very very well off, which is apparently the case with most professionals or you are dirt poor living in a gutter.
People live better in Argentina than they do in Brasil in my opinion...I lived in Argentina and still go there now and again (especially to BA) now and people are far better off than they are in Brasil.
DoomMerchant wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:People live better in Argentina than they do in Brasil in my opinion...I lived in Argentina and still go there now and again (especially to BA) now and people are far better off than they are in Brasil.
So yr suggesting that your actual experience living and visiting these places is more relevant than Antti who has a friend of a friend who is/was a uni-cunt who studied Portugese who knows people who visited Brasil once? Bold.
cheers
guv111 wrote:What's a " uni-cunt "?
What a shame some people are so anti education that they feel the need to make up ridiculous epithets to ram their point home.
Ruthless wrote:Why are Corinthians bidding in Euros? Tell em to jog on n come back talkin english money that the language we understand n have the knackers to back it up. Give us £42mil upfront + 25% of any sell on n this is non negotiable gringos so unless you wanna do serious business in the big boys world then fuck off n go n bother someone else FFS
Tokyo Blue wrote:Ruthless wrote:Why are Corinthians bidding in Euros? Tell em to jog on n come back talkin english money that the language we understand n have the knackers to back it up. Give us £42mil upfront + 25% of any sell on n this is non negotiable gringos so unless you wanna do serious business in the big boys world then fuck off n go n bother someone else FFS
They can't hear you, mate.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:People live better in Argentina than they do in Brasil in my opinion...I lived in Argentina and still go there now and again (especially to BA) now and people are far better off than they are in Brasil.
So yr suggesting that your actual experience living and visiting these places is more relevant than Antti who has a friend of a friend who is/was a uni-cunt who studied Portugese who knows people who visited Brasil once? Bold.
cheers
Que?
Did we disagree on something with Carl?
Ruthless wrote:Tokyo Blue wrote:Ruthless wrote:Why are Corinthians bidding in Euros? Tell em to jog on n come back talkin english money that the language we understand n have the knackers to back it up. Give us £42mil upfront + 25% of any sell on n this is non negotiable gringos so unless you wanna do serious business in the big boys world then fuck off n go n bother someone else FFS
They can't hear you, mate.
Seriously? N there was me thinkin they could, how stupid am I?????
Ruthless wrote:Tokyo Blue wrote:Ruthless wrote:Why are Corinthians bidding in Euros? Tell em to jog on n come back talkin english money that the language we understand n have the knackers to back it up. Give us £42mil upfront + 25% of any sell on n this is non negotiable gringos so unless you wanna do serious business in the big boys world then fuck off n go n bother someone else FFS
They can't hear you, mate.
Seriously? N there was me thinkin they could, how stupid am I?????
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