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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Lee_R » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:19 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Lee_R wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Lee_R wrote:Im hearing hes passed his medical this evening apparently.

Fuck me Lee, that's a bit late isn't it, especially after him scoring on Monday?


Is that sarcasm? lol sorry I've not been keeping up with all the latest developments. Ah well.

Not developments, the thread itself. Unless we are selling Edin?


ffs.. what an idiotic individual I am.. wrong thread.! Coat collected on way out.

Edit: Decent player Dzeko.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:30 am

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Ooof that hurt Dub.


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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:16 am

Slim wrote:
PALUS wrote:i just think if he gets time with kun and silva we will have very fast and strong forwards , last year we didnt have balls insade now we have kun and silva dzeko strong and ballo also so i think we have tevez who is willing to pass the ball , good defence , maybe nasri will make midefild even faster then we will have team for premier legue title and man abaut irst touch just give himtime he is bether and the chance one on one thet u talking just try to find the chance and look how he lose defender there, you must see that his big and strong somthing like ibrahimoic so he got other pluses...we all love this club , i think we have finaly team to fuck the utd i m waithing foe a long time...


Palus, I appreciate your insight into Dzeko and that you have taken to City like a duck to water doesn't hurt either. But don't fall into the trap of feeling you have to defend Dzeko from every post that seems to slight him in any way. We have had groups of Samaras fans and Robinho fans come on here and they quickly get hounded out or leave when the player gets transfered.

i m just waithing to sombody write that i love ac milan there is not dzeko there i love city and i will love city even when dzeko is gone my point is when he is playing good and we won 4 0 there is no need to make some critics like bad first touch, but that is me , i m also pleased with kun but these post is abaut dzeko in kun post i dont talk abaut dzeko so wath do u want from me to say ok he is bad player i dont have wright to say abaut him so much for us funs...
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:15 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:All I'm saying is people need to stop going on like he's just pulled off the most spectacular performance of all time. He played well in the second half and its a start, but that's all it is at the moment. I wanna see him do that against big teams.


Eh?
Feller had a good game and is starting to look worth the money we paid for him. No one has called his performance revelation but extremely encouraging. You on the other hand seem dead set to make him sound shite. What's up with that?
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby saulman » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:19 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:All I'm saying is people need to stop going on like he's just pulled off the most spectacular performance of all time. He played well in the second half and its a start, but that's all it is at the moment. I wanna see him do that against big teams.


Eh?
Feller had a good game and is starting to look worth the money we paid for him. No one has called his performance revelation but extremely encouraging. You on the other hand seem dead set to make him sound shite. What's up with that?


Agreed. Best performance in a City shirt, IMO (including the first half). Did everything a forward should be doing. If he plays like that every week, I'll be happy.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:37 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:All I'm saying is people need to stop going on like he's just pulled off the most spectacular performance of all time. He played well in the second half and its a start, but that's all it is at the moment. I wanna see him do that against big teams.


Eh?
Feller had a good game and is starting to look worth the money we paid for him. No one has called his performance revelation but extremely encouraging. You on the other hand seem dead set to make him sound shite. What's up with that?

fair enough. I just don't rate him. Seeing him play for us for the last 8 months or so and i don't think he's as good as people were making him out to be. I'd love him to prove me wrong. I can only judge from what i've seen and I don't think he will be top class unless he improves both his first touch and composure.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:19 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:All I'm saying is people need to stop going on like he's just pulled off the most spectacular performance of all time. He played well in the second half and its a start, but that's all it is at the moment. I wanna see him do that against big teams.


Eh?
Feller had a good game and is starting to look worth the money we paid for him. No one has called his performance revelation but extremely encouraging. You on the other hand seem dead set to make him sound shite. What's up with that?

fair enough. I just don't rate him. Seeing him play for us for the last 8 months or so and i don't think he's as good as people were making him out to be. I'd love him to prove me wrong. I can only judge from what i've seen and I don't think he will be top class unless he improves both his first touch and composure.

sory but i must say that u and first touch , its funy realy , this is from bundesliga records page
ON 28 AUGUST 2010, DžEKO BECAME THE TOP LEAGUE SCORER IN THE CLUB's HISTORY WITH 59 GOALS IN 96 APPEARANCES,
so man tell me man how sombody become that efective if he didnt have the first touch good..
also in 2009 2010 He finished with a total of 26 league goals and 10 assists in 32 league matches. His goal tally was second only to teammate Grafite, with whom he formed the most successful strike duo in BUNDESLIGA HISTORY.how when man can recive the ball
also so its not just abaut german league...He scored nine goals in 2010 FIFA World Cup qualifying and finished as the second best scorer in UEFA qualification, tied with England's Wayne Rooney, both behind Greek striker Theofanis Gekas' 10 goals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUX1tUtVAgg
watch this on youtube and see wath u think abaut he s first touch , the big problem in city last year there is no delivery acept silva all players are defensiv this year with aguero silva and nasri it will be difrent song ,
i know u will say o i defending dzeko but i can look how u talking abaut first touch of record scorer like he come from some hungary leuge, and man let him play and stop saying apsurd stuff like man broke records and wantet by ac milan real madrid manchester utd and he has poor first touch just say i dont like him that i will unnderstan...
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:37 am

See Palus, I said you'd go too far...and you did.

The Premier League is the most physical and quickest league in the world, maybe not the most skillful at times, but a poor first touch is swiftly punished here. There were two occasions in the last game where an inconsistent first touch let Dzeko down, not saying he had a bad game, he didn't. But you cannot argue him for sainthood when the evidence is there to the contrary. Maybe in Germany such a first touch isn't punished as much or maybe he was just more comfortable in his role and league there, I don't know and am just speculating, but the fact is that is his biggest problem here.

I think part of it may be down to confidence and his first six months here were unsettling at best, he wasn't getting a consistent run in the side, he was settling in a new country, and I think coming off the winter break as well(??), not the best introduction. I think this year we will see a much better player and if he manages to get a good run of starts maybe he will settle down into his role and grow in confidence on the ball.

The problem you now have is you will have to defend him when he has a poor game and citing stats from the Bundesliga will act as cold comfort to the more expressive posters around here(I may be among them).
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:53 am

I don't care how many he scored in a shit foreign league. Jo scored for fun in Russia. Samaras in Holland etc.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Slim » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:00 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I don't care how many he scored in a shit foreign league. Jo scored for fun in Russia. Samaras in Holland etc.


25 goals in 88 appearances, but your point is noted and already made right above your post infact.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby FBlue » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:00 am

I'm on the samepage as Bridge... But I know it was just a first year, adaptation etc... so you know I don't call him a "bust", but I'm just waiting for him to prove his worth. Unless you came from Spain or Italy I don't trust any "record league scoring" that much, don't get me wrong Bundesliga have some class players but how much hit machine did we saw coming from Netherlands or Germany and being not that good.

Plus, if you watched game and reaction from a lot of blues during his first months, I never saw before the expression "touch of a rapist" used that much... And saying he wasn't shining all over the pitch with his close control isn't being a hater.

Some people have to accept the fact that some fans are in the mold of "He don't do it ? It doesn't exist", in a club having world class exceptations and very high transfer' fee. This club wants to be the like of Barcelona and Real Madrid, you better get use to it, Henry and Benzema got called out big time in Spain, until Henry started to scoring goals in his second season and Benzema this year, altough Henry have been a world class player during years and Benzema is just 23 years old and scored for fun in champions league since he's 19.

The lad seems to be genuinely nice, shut his mouth and keep to work hard, so I just want him to suceed as much as possible.

He scored a nice goal against United, did a good second half against Swansea. I'm happy he have to keep it up.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:20 am

no my point is thet u repet the same thing first touch , nobody who have poor first touch can have that stats and let be clear german league isnt holland or russan league , i invate u to watch that on you tube that i post and u will see his firs touch , when he has a good deliveryy , i m not here just to defend dzeko but we finaly play good game won 4 0 destroy team and with nasri and aguero we can rip a new one to utd , but first touch man he is striker he is not xavio or inesta or silva he is there to put the ball in the net and when he got delivery he will , no disrespect to u man but recorder of the club , best duo in history in germany second scorer in qulifikation with runey 26 goals in 32 games and 10 asist just watch the clip i know last season that he have problem but honestly all team did , no play last year .....
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:46 am

Stop going on about a shite german League. I don't care how many he scored there or how good his touch was there. He hasn't replicated it in the Premier League so far.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby FBlue » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:47 am

No bro, you don't disrespect me. And I totally understand you, your point and where you coming from.

I'm not bashing Mancini, but enjoying myself Inter, I know Mancini's style way before he came to City and it never was easy for a striker to play for him. So deeply I knew, viewing Dzeko's style (mate I think everybody saw youtube clips of Edin), it was going to be very hard for him. Until Carlitos, Corradi, Adriano, Martins and Zlatan scored on their individual talents, they never really had any setups.

So now their is Silva, Aguero and hopefully Nasri, and if they play all together with Edin, no matter what he will have service. Then they will be no excuse.

I can see the all well-know "hitman problem" of not having providers. But Dzeko seemed to me to be more than that, he seems to have some skills and a decent back to the goal game/(or backing game, I don't know or you call playing "pivot" in english). Well things that he could have shown already without all this providing problem.

But now, as you seem to be a Dzeko fan, you put him as a hitman so now he'll doesn't have any excuses anymore. And he will be judged by that ? Is that alright ? Because I'm not a "striker does have to score"-guy, and I don't have problem with striker who doesn't score 20 a season unless the guy he's a terrific sniper and doesn't do anything else good (like Hernandez or Inzaghi).
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:10 am

Dzeko has to play somewhere close to his 2nd half performance v Swansea in almost every game if he's to be upto the standard we require. Personally, if he does that, I don't mind if he doesn't get 20 goals, as he's doing a job for the team; showing for the ball & helping others play. I think he'll get goals anyway if he plays like that.

If he's to be our striker, he needs to produce that level against the likes of John Terry & Vidic. Imo, in some games he's been happy enough not to have the ball & not really been that arsed trying to get it. That won't do, he has to shout for it & fight for it.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby FBlue » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:42 am

+1 Ted, you brought a nice point.

I don't see Dzeko with City as a goal poacher with his attitude. Don't get me wrong as I said before he seems to be a very nice lad, but on the field I don't feel him like a killer or someone who is obsseded by goalscoring and moaning for the ball.

That's why strikers have big egos. Even if they are in a new team, they can't retain themselves to moan (managers or teammates) if they don't have decent providing. They shout for the ball, they want to score so bad. And I'm not even really talking about really fighting back for the ball.

I remember Ronaldo (the real one), that fat lazy guy, yelled at Guti in a Real game, because he tought he didn't have ball enough and Guti was like "Fuck you, you lazy cunt, you don't run and if you get it you better score" and Ronaldo was like "Okay I don't run but give me the fuckin' ball then you'll see what happen", like 5 minutes later a teammate gave him a superb pass and Ronaldo scored the winning goal with some very lethal finish.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby dazby » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:04 am

I watched Dzeko in Germany and his touch was fine. It seems the pace of the Prem has affected his confidence. I like watching him with the ball at his feet and in space, But his first touch has definitely deteriorated.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:37 am

FBlue wrote:No bro, you don't disrespect me. And I totally understand you, your point and where you coming from.

I'm not bashing Mancini, but enjoying myself Inter, I know Mancini's style way before he came to City and it never was easy for a striker to play for him. So deeply I knew, viewing Dzeko's style (mate I think everybody saw youtube clips of Edin), it was going to be very hard for him. Until Carlitos, Corradi, Adriano, Martins and Zlatan scored on their individual talents, they never really had any setups.

So now their is Silva, Aguero and hopefully Nasri, and if they play all together with Edin, no matter what he will have service. Then they will be no excuse.

I can see the all well-know "hitman problem" of not having providers. But Dzeko seemed to me to be more than that, he seems to have some skills and a decent back to the goal game/(or backing game, I don't know or you call playing "pivot" in english). Well things that he could have shown already without all this providing problem.

But now, as you seem to be a Dzeko fan, you put him as a hitman so now he'll doesn't have any excuses anymore. And he will be judged by that ? Is that alright ? Because I'm not a "striker does have to score"-guy, and I don't have problem with striker who doesn't score 20 a season unless the guy he's a terrific sniper and doesn't do anything else good (like Hernandez or Inzaghi).

yap i m normaly his from my contry but i say to u its not a problem first touch , like now from inter 3 games 3 goals that is wath u need from striker goals and dont get me wrong i like city mostly becose i hete unt so much :) but last season there is no game at all no passing no crossing , i didnt see last year like 5 decent cross from kolarov and all city all goals was on wath will tevez do or yaya , but this year there playing bether and it shows , and one more thing i don know were you get that german league is week bayern have 5 titels , borusia 2 eintraht 1 shalke was in semifanal last year , and dzeko didnt show talent only in bundsliga he was internacionaly second with 9 goals in champions leaugue scors 4 2 to manchester utd , so he is talent and he need time to adapt , i m just hapy that his playing for city not utd and hope he will show u good time :D
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Dronny » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:13 pm

Having a rather good game don't you think?
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Burt » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:58 pm

Dronny wrote:Having a rather good game don't you think?


Yes, he looks like he's really getting up to the pace of the Premier League and his touch is miles better. Very underated finish for his goal as well. Keep it going Edin lad!
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