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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:04 pm

Top top signing as long as we play him on the midfield and not even consider playing him on the wing as he sucks there.
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Postby Wooders » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:04 pm

twosips wrote:Arsenal will always create chances by the simple measure that even with Chamakh and Bendtner etc they're still better going forward than 75% of teams in the Premier League. Their problem, a bit like ours under Hughes, is that they're just atrocious at the back. If they had a solid base to build on for the rest of the year they'd be fine. But they don't, so with their 'still good, but not really that good' forward line not quite as match-saving as it once used to be their defensive weaknesses will be even more exposed. It's not looking good at all.


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Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:06 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
s1ty m wrote:A new thread, perhaps?

Anyway, he's finally here. What a daft transfer deal that was. Wenger has utterly shit the bed, in my honest opinion.


unless he makes about 3 solid buys -- [highlight]a CB, an attacking mid and a winger -- then he's fucked.[/highlight]

Clock's ticking on him...isn't it? Here's where he solidifies himself as a legend, or shows that it's past him at Arsenal i think.

On a side note we're really fucking things up for the big boys now, aren't we? Scouse missing top 4, the Arse falling apart...

good times.


Wilshere, Rosicky, Song, Ramsey and Arshavin can carry the can in midfield for the time being. Vermaelen is class and Sczezny is actually starting to look the part.

Their real problems are up front in my opinion. No goals in two games and only Bendtner and Chamakh as back-up for the injury-prone RVP.

They need a striker and a centre-half at least until January.


Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?
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Postby twosips » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:07 pm

NQDP - if he does play 'on the wing' I'd guess it'd be as loosely positioned as Silva is when he starts out on the left. He'll be able to move wherever he wants really.
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Postby Blue Blood » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:09 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Top top signing as long as we play him on the midfield and not even consider playing him on the wing as he sucks there.


He'll sit in the mid and supplement the fine work of mr silva.

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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:10 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
s1ty m wrote:A new thread, perhaps?

Anyway, he's finally here. What a daft transfer deal that was. Wenger has utterly shit the bed, in my honest opinion.


unless he makes about 3 solid buys -- [highlight]a CB, an attacking mid and a winger -- then he's fucked.[/highlight]

Clock's ticking on him...isn't it? Here's where he solidifies himself as a legend, or shows that it's past him at Arsenal i think.

On a side note we're really fucking things up for the big boys now, aren't we? Scouse missing top 4, the Arse falling apart...

good times.


Wilshere, Rosicky, Song, Ramsey and Arshavin can carry the can in midfield for the time being. Vermaelen is class and Sczezny is actually starting to look the part.

Their real problems are up front in my opinion. No goals in two games and only Bendtner and Chamakh as back-up for the injury-prone RVP.

They need a striker and a centre-half at least until January.


Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


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Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:12 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Top top signing as long as we play him on the midfield and not even consider playing him on the wing as he sucks there.


I think he's played some good games in a wideish role. We don't really have wingers but I could see him playing anywhere behind the striker in a sort of wide role but with fredom to mill around or, against crap teams; deeper in place of a DM. (not against anyone good though, they'd kill us)
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Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:15 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
s1ty m wrote:A new thread, perhaps?

Anyway, he's finally here. What a daft transfer deal that was. Wenger has utterly shit the bed, in my honest opinion.


unless he makes about 3 solid buys -- [highlight]a CB, an attacking mid and a winger -- then he's fucked.[/highlight]

Clock's ticking on him...isn't it? Here's where he solidifies himself as a legend, or shows that it's past him at Arsenal i think.

On a side note we're really fucking things up for the big boys now, aren't we? Scouse missing top 4, the Arse falling apart...

good times.


Wilshere, Rosicky, Song, Ramsey and Arshavin can carry the can in midfield for the time being. Vermaelen is class and Sczezny is actually starting to look the part.

Their real problems are up front in my opinion. No goals in two games and only Bendtner and Chamakh as back-up for the injury-prone RVP.

They need a striker and a centre-half at least until January.


Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


Herbert Chapman?


Could be, could be..
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Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:21 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
s1ty m wrote:A new thread, perhaps?

Anyway, he's finally here. What a daft transfer deal that was. Wenger has utterly shit the bed, in my honest opinion.


unless he makes about 3 solid buys -- [highlight]a CB, an attacking mid and a winger -- then he's fucked.[/highlight]

Clock's ticking on him...isn't it? Here's where he solidifies himself as a legend, or shows that it's past him at Arsenal i think.

On a side note we're really fucking things up for the big boys now, aren't we? Scouse missing top 4, the Arse falling apart...

good times.


Wilshere, Rosicky, Song, Ramsey and Arshavin can carry the can in midfield for the time being. Vermaelen is class and Sczezny is actually starting to look the part.

Their real problems are up front in my opinion. No goals in two games and only Bendtner and Chamakh as back-up for the injury-prone RVP.

They need a striker and a centre-half at least until January.


[highlight]Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!![/highlight] I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


Probably yeah, but I think people get a bit hysterical over the loss of a couple of players. Fabregas only started about half of their league games last year and they were still in with a shout of winning the league until March. I think they're only a couple of signings short of 4th again and then they can rebuild properly next summer with cash in the bank. We'll see. A lot depends on tonight (tomorrow night?) obviously.
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Postby Slim » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:31 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Top top signing as long as we play him on the midfield and not even consider playing him on the wing as he sucks there.


I think he's played some good games in a wideish role. We don't really have wingers but I could see him playing anywhere behind the striker in a sort of wide role but with fredom to mill around or, against crap teams; deeper in place of a DM. (not against anyone good though, they'd kill us)


I was thinking something like this


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Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:32 pm

A little on Nasri's 'Representative'. I took from the highlighted bit that the world knows where we are going (and him getting one over Wenger).

Nasri transfer cements Jean-Pierre Bernes as France's prime operator

Samir Nasri won't be the only one raising a toast once his proposed lucrative transfer to Manchester City is completed in the next few days. The five-year deal is reportedly worth $288,320 per week, and one of the key figures behind the move has been his agent, Jean-Pierre Bernes, who can justifiably call himself France's most powerful agent, even if he prefers the term "advisor."

If you think you recognize the name, it's because you probably do. Bernes was the right-hand man to Marseille president Bernard Tapie during France's biggest football scandal. The pair were found guilty of attempting to fix a Ligue 1 match against Valenciennes in May 1993, in the week before Marseille beat AC Milan in the Champions League final.

At trial, and in a subsequent interview with France Football magazine, Bernes admitted that Marseille had spent "more than [$829,800] on corruption money." Bernes served a brief spell in jail and, like Tapie, was banned from French football for two years. UEFA banned Marseille from defending its Champions League crown, while the French league stripped the club of its title and relegated it to the second division.

At the time, Marseille's biggest domestic challenge came from Monaco, then managed by Arsene Wenger. The current Arsenal boss has gone on record as saying that Tapie's methods prevented Monaco from winning at least two more French titles during that period. It is no coincidence, either, that the Valenciennes coach back in 1993 was Boro Primorac, who has worked as Wenger's assistant ever since. The two men, who were sitting together in the stands as Wenger served a touchline ban at last week's European tie against Udinese, were vocal critics of Tapie and Bernes at the time. Primorac even testified in court against them.

It's an open secret in France that Bernes has enjoyed seeing Wenger squirm through this tough period at Arsenal: One week after his captain, Cesc Fabregas, moved to Barcelona, Wenger now has to deal with the departure of his potential successor.

"Imagine the worst situation, that we lose Fabregas and Nasri; you cannot convince people that you are ambitious after that," Wenger said at a press conference last month.

For Bernes, though, Nasri's move cements his position as the prime operator in the French game. After his conviction and jail sentence, Bernes suffered from depression and it was only in the late 1990s that he returned to football, helping Zinedine Zidane's agent, Alain Miglaccio, transfer Florian Maurice from Paris Saint-Germain to Marseille.

"I have suffered a lot, but [I] have survived prison, depression and my name being butchered in public," he told Le Figaro earlier this year. "Now I am just happy to be part of French football again."

For some people, his influence is too great. Among his clients are France coach Laurent Blanc, as well as the man expected to replace him, current Marseille boss Didier Deschamps; two other Ligue 1 coaches, Jean Fernandez and Christophe Galtier; and France internationals including Franck Ribery, Alou Diarra, Adil Rami and Nasri.

"He has too much power," the agent of one Marseille player told Chrono Foot.

Karim Aklil, another agent, added: "When Laurent Blanc picks Rami [for France], people wonder. Does Deschamps listen to him in matters of recruitment?"

Bernes shrugs off the comments: "It's just jealousy," he told Capital magazine.

Nasri has spoken in the past about how he wants to evaluate his career in trophies rather than money, and Bernes claims to have the same philosophy.

"I don't talk about money when it comes to career choices," he told Le Figaro. "I manage my players to provide them with maximum advantages for career success. There are important choices to make. At 24 or 25 [Nasri is 24], you know nothing about life and you don't have the experience or hindsight to say it's better to go here or there. They need someone reliable to advise them."

In this case, Bernes has managed to kill three birds with one stone: He has helped Nasri land more money, a better chance at trophies (even though it comes with fewer guarantees about his place in the starting team) and has gone some way to avenging an 18-year-old grudge with Wenger in the process.


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Postby Dubciteh » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:36 pm

i wonder what number he will be? anything but 9 for me, hate seen midfielders wear nine!
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Postby Slim » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:37 pm

Dubciteh wrote:i wonder what number he will be? anything but 9 for me, hate seen midfielders wear nine!


Still can't believe Aguero didn't want the 10 shirt with Dzeko moving to 9.
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Postby ronk » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:38 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


I don't think Wenger is confident that he can spend his way to the title in the short term and is instead building long term. All they have to do is keep entertaining, keep getting 3rd/4th and keep qualifying for the Champions League knockout spots.

There's a lot of money being spent, they probably don't need to keep up with it to hold their place and they could be looking very strong when FFP comes in. It mightn't be the most ambitious thing they're doing, but it makes business sense.

In the end they've got a fine price for Nasri, especially considering the way they were going to lose him for free. Can't blame them for trying.
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Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:39 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
s1ty m wrote:A new thread, perhaps?

Anyway, he's finally here. What a daft transfer deal that was. Wenger has utterly shit the bed, in my honest opinion.


unless he makes about 3 solid buys -- [highlight]a CB, an attacking mid and a winger -- then he's fucked.[/highlight]

Clock's ticking on him...isn't it? Here's where he solidifies himself as a legend, or shows that it's past him at Arsenal i think.

On a side note we're really fucking things up for the big boys now, aren't we? Scouse missing top 4, the Arse falling apart...

good times.


Wilshere, Rosicky, Song, Ramsey and Arshavin can carry the can in midfield for the time being. Vermaelen is class and Sczezny is actually starting to look the part.

Their real problems are up front in my opinion. No goals in two games and only Bendtner and Chamakh as back-up for the injury-prone RVP.

They need a striker and a centre-half at least until January.


[highlight]Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!![/highlight] I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


Probably yeah, but I think people get a bit hysterical over the loss of a couple of players. Fabregas only started about half of their league games last year and they were still in with a shout of winning the league until March. I think they're only a couple of signings short of 4th again and then they can rebuild properly next summer with cash in the bank. We'll see. A lot depends on tonight (tomorrow night?) obviously.


Well I looked at their team last season & I reconed it was Fabregas, Nasri & that was pretty much it (Wilshire may be the dogs one day but only plays in flashes, Van Persie is always injured & Clichy semed out of favour.) I don't rate Vermaaaaaalen at all; good one week, shite the next, don't like any of the other defenders, Ramsay is the most overrated player since Tom Cleverley, Song is thick as shit, Rosicky is a West Brom player, Arshavin is a wanker, Chamakhhhh is a ponce, Gervinho is Darius Vassell meets Adebayor, Walcott is Darius Vassell meets Aaron Lennon & has a huge turd in his pocket & the keeper is average to poor.

Their passing game looks like it's going to depend on Wilshire as half the others are completely headless. I think they're in truly abysmal shape. If they lose tonight, once the rags put 6 past them it will erupt. I wouldn't want to be at that club right now.
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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:40 pm

ronk wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


I don't think Wenger is confident that he can spend his way to the title in the short term and is instead building long term. All they have to do is keep entertaining, keep getting 3rd/4th and keep qualifying for the Champions League knockout spots.

There's a lot of money being spent, they probably don't need to keep up with it to hold their place and they could be looking very strong when FFP comes in. It mightn't be the most ambitious thing they're doing, but it makes business sense.

In the end they've got a fine price for Nasri, especially considering the way they were going to lose him for free. Can't blame them for trying.


Selling BOTH Fabregas AND Nasri casts quite a shadow on their Champion's League hopes though.
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Postby Blue Blood » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:41 pm

This made me chuckle, nice farewell wishes to Nasri from the class acts remaining at Arsenal.

Good luck to my friend @Nanas08 (mr Nasri) learnt a lot from him. World class player! Will be missed!


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All the best @Nanas08 @ your new club Thanks for the good stuff!


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and then this retweet of Jacks tweet + some added nasty from Emmuneul "New Vieira" Frimpong.

"@JackWilshere: Good luck to my friend @Nanas08 (mr Nasri) learnt a lot from him. World class player! Will be missed!" Pffffff come on Jack


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That Frimpong... bit of a wanker clearly, bet he was kissing Nasri's boots not long ago.
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Postby Slim » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:43 pm

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Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:49 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ronk wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Wow, you're really an Arseoptimist aren't you ?!! I'll forward your posts to them & they can put them on the wall in their dressing room. Or they could have you stuffed & stand you in the lobby next to the statue of Ted Drake (or which ever Bobbycharltonesque old cunt it is they've got there).

For the record, I think they're completely & utterly fucked. I don't think Nasri is the be all & end all but he's like fucking Maradona compared to what they've got left. We may as well step in for Wilshire, then they can shut the place down & put everyone out of their misery. I've no idea what they & Wenger are playing at, but it stinks. Stockpiling money for when Wenger leaves & Jose takes over next season perhaps?


I don't think Wenger is confident that he can spend his way to the title in the short term and is instead building long term. All they have to do is keep entertaining, keep getting 3rd/4th and keep qualifying for the Champions League knockout spots.

There's a lot of money being spent, they probably don't need to keep up with it to hold their place and they could be looking very strong when FFP comes in. It mightn't be the most ambitious thing they're doing, but it makes business sense.

In the end they've got a fine price for Nasri, especially considering the way they were going to lose him for free. Can't blame them for trying.


Selling BOTH Fabregas AND Nasri casts quite a shadow on their Champion's League hopes though.


Tbh, I can only see them getting anywhere near the top 4 because Spurs looked exactly like them last night & Liverpool look like Graeme Taylors watford. Normally Everton would threaten them, but they're fucking useless as well. Whether someone like Villa etc can step up I don't know but it's starting to look like a top 3 of City Chelsea rags, in whatever order, then Liverpool, purely because the rest are falling apart.
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Well I heard that the Sheikh... bought Carlos Tevez this week...& you fuckers aint gettin' nothin..
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