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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby brite blu sky » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:15 pm

We have taken our foot off the gas in every game so far including the comm shield. I'm putting it down to early season getting into the swing of it syndrome, because otherwise it is a concern. Nearly every goal we have conceeded has come from this easing off higher up the pitch and nearly all the goals could have been prevented before they got going imo. It is perhaps also a symptom of no Nige to mop up too. So far teams have broken against us after us losing possession from complacency in the final 2/3rds, us not ready for that and reacting slow. It will get better no doubt about it, but teams so far have had too many break outs and too many corners as a result.
Tighten the concentration higher up the pitch and a lot of chances against us will never see the light of day.

tbh though i really think this will eradicate itself as the squad gets up to speed.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:42 pm

When the last time we beat spuds 1-5...
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Postby Rag_hater » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:54 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Man is fond of counting his troubles, but he does not count his joys. If he counted them up as he ought to, he would see that every lot has enough happiness provided for it.


Are you trying to outdo Baton in the 'reformed character' stakes? All I've seen from you in the last few weeks is shit quotes.


He had delusions of adequacy.

The worst deluded are the self-deluded.

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I quoted you can that count as a shit one?
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:03 pm

brite blu sky wrote:We have taken our foot off the gas in every game so far including the comm shield. I'm putting it down to early season getting into the swing of it syndrome, because otherwise it is a concern. Nearly every goal we have conceeded has come from this easing off higher up the pitch and nearly all the goals could have been prevented before they got going imo. It is perhaps also a symptom of no Nige to mop up too. So far teams have broken against us after us losing possession from complacency in the final 2/3rds, us not ready for that and reacting slow. It will get better no doubt about it, but teams so far have had too many break outs and too many corners as a result.
Tighten the concentration higher up the pitch and a lot of chances against us will never see the light of day.

tbh though i really think this will eradicate itself as the squad gets up to speed.


We're doing a lot of running early on, closing down in the oppo's half ala Barca. If we wanted to keep that up at 0-0 & were struggling to do it, we could change 3 players in attack midf, as we now have the options.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby brite blu sky » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:We have taken our foot off the gas in every game so far including the comm shield. I'm putting it down to early season getting into the swing of it syndrome, because otherwise it is a concern. Nearly every goal we have conceeded has come from this easing off higher up the pitch and nearly all the goals could have been prevented before they got going imo. It is perhaps also a symptom of no Nige to mop up too. So far teams have broken against us after us losing possession from complacency in the final 2/3rds, us not ready for that and reacting slow. It will get better no doubt about it, but teams so far have had too many break outs and too many corners as a result.
Tighten the concentration higher up the pitch and a lot of chances against us will never see the light of day.

tbh though i really think this will eradicate itself as the squad gets up to speed.


We're doing a lot of running early on, closing down in the oppo's half ala Barca. If we wanted to keep that up at 0-0 & were struggling to do it, we could change 3 players in attack midf, as we now have the options.


I take your point and it probs backs up missing Nige slightly too. Either way though i would think it will resolve itself with fitness and sharpness. Bearing in mind that the extra sharpness would also mean getting more control of games earlier on and so less running to break up play, so it all goes to help towards the 90 mins stint.
The point i was making was more about loss of concentration than pure running. Silva and others let themselves get caught or made just a bit too much of a complacent pass allowing the oppo to pressure a mistake. At 4-1 it is kind of excusable to ease up physically but not mentally. It is just stuff to learn and be wary about.. otherwise they will end up learning the hard way and that will cost us 2 or 3 pts.
Bob could have changed a couple of players but he also probs wants teams to see things out themselves at this stage and players to gain that extra fitness.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby Alioune DVToure » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:47 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Man is fond of counting his troubles, but he does not count his joys. If he counted them up as he ought to, he would see that every lot has enough happiness provided for it.


Are you trying to outdo Baton in the 'reformed character' stakes? All I've seen from you in the last few weeks is shit quotes.


He had delusions of adequacy.

The worst deluded are the self-deluded.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind

I quoted you can that count as a shit one?


No.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby ross.mcfc » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:07 pm

CityGer wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Agreed. I think last half hour Tevez and Balotelli/Johnson should of been brought on to [strike]run at tiring and demoralized defenders[/strike] Sulk.


Ha!

Very true. I'd much rather see good squad members get a run out than guys who have caused us nothing but problems.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:49 pm

I have a feeling the experts on the forum will think I'm talking bollox as usual from a position of knowing fuck all,but IMO all matches go through periods of ebb and flow.If whilst we are going through a quiet period and the game is not going at a frenetic pace or the opposition have the upper hand that for me is not a sign of us not taking the game by the scuff of the neck or going for the jugular but a natural flow of the game.And against a team like spuds if the major mistake we made led to a goal on one occasion then that's in my book a small punishment for what we achieved.
I have a feeling the experts will be of the opinion that we it was basic errors that they would have made the team overcome if their expertese is acknowledged.
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Postby sandman » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:21 pm

Rag_hater wrote:I have a feeling the experts on the forum will think I'm talking bollox as usual from a position of knowing fuck all,but IMO all matches go through periods of ebb and flow.If whilst we are going through a quiet period and the game is not going at a frenetic pace or the opposition have the upper hand that for me is not a sign of us not taking the game by the scuff of the neck or going for the jugular but a natural flow of the game.And against a team like spuds if the major mistake we made led to a goal on one occasion then that's in my book a small punishment for what we achieved.
I have a feeling the experts will be of the opinion that we it was basic errors that they would have made the team overcome if their expertese is acknowledged.
Maybe Bobby should read this forum and learn how to set things up with advice of here
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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:47 pm

sandman wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I have a feeling the experts on the forum will think I'm talking bollox as usual from a position of knowing fuck all,but IMO all matches go through periods of ebb and flow.If whilst we are going through a quiet period and the game is not going at a frenetic pace or the opposition have the upper hand that for me is not a sign of us not taking the game by the scuff of the neck or going for the jugular but a natural flow of the game.And against a team like spuds if the major mistake we made led to a goal on one occasion then that's in my book a small punishment for what we achieved.
I have a feeling the experts will be of the opinion that we it was basic errors that they would have made the team overcome if their expertese is acknowledged.
Maybe Bobby should read this forum and learn how to set things up with advice of here


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Postby Rag_hater » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:15 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
sandman wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I have a feeling the experts on the forum will think I'm talking bollox as usual from a position of knowing fuck all,but IMO all matches go through periods of ebb and flow.If whilst we are going through a quiet period and the game is not going at a frenetic pace or the opposition have the upper hand that for me is not a sign of us not taking the game by the scuff of the neck or going for the jugular but a natural flow of the game.And against a team like spuds if the major mistake we made led to a goal on one occasion then that's in my book a small punishment for what we achieved.
I have a feeling the experts will be of the opinion that we it was basic errors that they would have made the team overcome if their expertese is acknowledged.
Maybe Bobby should read this forum and learn how to set things up with advice of here


I hope he reads my Lescott thread.


I hope he does aswell.However I think we should save it and send it to him if we lose to cheer him up.It made me laff.
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby phips » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:21 am

i think Bobby needs to manage expectations. After thumping Swansea and Aguero playing so well people were hailing City. then we got off to a good start at Bolton but eventually conceded. We were up 4-0 at Spurs and tried to pass the ball around a bit and then they scored (even if defoe was blocking hart). sure we went on to score a 5th but i think our team needs to know that its never over until the final whistle. this is usually common knowledge and people say they know it but in the heat of the match up 4-0 after dominating spurs for a larger period i would guess that some players got too complacent and were comfortable passing the ball around in our half and then spurs scored.

sure we scored 2 injury time goals in 3 matches but, regardless if we score or not, we need to keep pressing the opposition and keep them in their own half as best as possible. its never over until its over and clean sheets are a psych booster.
i hope no-one on the team is getting a big head after us jumping out into tied for 1st with United. i almost...almost..wish someone would beat us to give us a reality check.

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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:36 am

At the end of the day, if we do the double over the Scum, all the goals they may, or may not, score should count for nothing provided we match them, result for result, in all our other games.
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Postby dazby » Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:20 am

I disagree with most of the comments on this thread. I want us to control and dominate games. I was really pleased that at the end. We kept our shape and bossed possession. No one could have predicted the 8-2 whichis the ONLY reason this thread got started.
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Postby sandman » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:00 am

dazby wrote:I disagree with most of the comments on this thread. I want us to control and dominate games. I was really pleased that at the end. We kept our shape and bossed possession. No one could have predicted the 8-2 whichis the ONLY reason this thread got started.


Wrong, the reason this thread was started was that despite our GD I thought back to last season and how we missed out on 2nd due to GD over the season, it has been in the back of my mind during the Bolton and Spurs game, and an even worse example of foot off the gas was the Charity Shield. The 8-2 was just what triggered it, but it is still a problem, we should attack to the final whistle.
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Postby dazby » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:34 pm

If you're ahead and controlling the game, it's much more difficult to lose or draw a game. If you are all out attack you leave youself vulnerable.

Barca don't attack for 90 minutes but they do try to control the game. I prefer this approach. All out attack is too Kevin Keegan.
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Postby sandman » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:14 pm

dazby wrote:If you're ahead and controlling the game, it's much more difficult to lose or draw a game. If you are all out attack you leave youself vulnerable.

Barca don't attack for 90 minutes but they do try to control the game. I prefer this approach. All out attack is too Kevin Keegan.


But the facts speak for themselves, when we stop attacking we threaten conceeding, that the way City are, results prove it, if we kept the ball better then i'd agree with you, but we dont.
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Postby dazby » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:10 pm

What facts are speaking for themselves and who gave them voiceboxes?
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Re: as things are going well I thought I would make a compla

Postby FA cup winners 2006 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:41 am

I thought we played it perfectly against spurs, their fans lifted when they got their goal, another goal in the next 5 mins and it would have been a very different finish.

we killed the pace of the game and just kept the ball, you could see after a few mins the spurs players gave up again
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Postby sandman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:59 pm

and again, two goals down to a Champions League side and it should be game over for a side like Fulham, instead Mancini decides to make a defensive substitution... Fucking pathetic!!
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